Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Martin Landa]

2012/7/10 Yves Jacolin (free) :
> Am I the only one finding the new QGIS theme icon so ugly (sorry if the
> word seems strong, I can't find another one as my vocabulary is limited)?

hm, are you referring to Robert's icon theme? Well this is really
personal taste, and I would hesitate to use "ugly" in this regard
(even my vocabulary is also limited). Feel free to design your icon
set which will be less "ugly" for you. Good luck! Probably I am not
used from the GRASS community to read such strong words.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Daniel Lee]

Hi there,

I also think the GRASS theme is great, although I have to say that I'm a
long-time GRASS user. I've often heard complaints about QGIS' icon set,
especially in Windows - people feel that it looks a bit unserious, although
I don't see it that way. However, I do see great advantages in
consolidating the use of FOSS GIS to these to main overarching packages -
it's great to have lots of products but we're a specialized, rather small
community and it's good when people don't invest their time in reinventing
the wheel. In that sense, I would support style unification across QGIS and
GRASS - it would make it easier to jump back and forth and perhaps
encourage the use of the GRASS plugin more.

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2012/7/10 Martin Landa 

> 2012/7/10 Yves Jacolin (free) :
> > Am I the only one finding the new QGIS theme icon so ugly (sorry if the
> > word seems strong, I can't find another one as my vocabulary is limited)?
>
> hm, are you referring to Robert's icon theme? Well this is really
> personal taste, and I would hesitate to use "ugly" in this regard
> (even my vocabulary is also limited). Feel free to design your icon
> set which will be less "ugly" for you. Good luck! Probably I am not
> used from the GRASS community to read such strong words.
>
> Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Martin Landa]

Hi,

2012/7/10 Daniel Lee :
> I also think the GRASS theme is great, although I have to say that I'm a

it's not a "GRASS theme". wxGUI just uses part of icons from [1] which
was designed by Robert Szczepanek as a generic GIS-related icon set
(AFAIU).

Martin

[1] https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/graphics/trunk/toolbar-icons/24x24/

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Anita Graser]

You can get a good overview over Robert's work at
http://robert.szczepanek.pl/icons.php

Anita



On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Martin Landa wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2012/7/10 Daniel Lee :
> > I also think the GRASS theme is great, although I have to say that I'm a
>
> it's not a "GRASS theme". wxGUI just uses part of icons from [1] which
> was designed by Robert Szczepanek as a generic GIS-related icon set
> (AFAIU).
>
> Martin
>
> [1] https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/graphics/trunk/toolbar-icons/24x24/
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Werner Macho]

Hi!

Well I won't say "ugly" in any way - even if I would not like them.
I guess Yves would not have taken such a word but he explained it that
his vocabulary is limited.

Of course it is personal preference for everyone - surely. But as
Robert tries to unify the icons for all GIS I am strongly in favour of
using it in QGIS as default too. Most Users even don't know that there
are other icon sets available.
Why not taking the advantage of giving the user the same icon for the
same function in all Open Source GIS?
I think after a short while of complaining (not finding the new
function (althoug it is still at the same place), looking bad .. and
such things) people will find out what benefit that would bring to
(for now) GRASS and QGIS ..

But as there is already a poll going on .. just vote .. and express
your meaning ..

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4ffb5dfae4b08ad9dfac3f70

kind regards
Werner
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Sandro Santilli]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:50:19PM +0200, Anita Graser wrote:
> You can get a good overview over Robert's work at
> http://robert.szczepanek.pl/icons.php

I think the set being under OSGEO wings is a very good motivation
to switch over.  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Graphics

Hey, there's also a trac instance, to file issues ! 

For example, I find the "zoom-refresh" button weird in that I don't see
how "refresh" has to do with "zoom". Is it only me ? Worth filing a
ticket for that ?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Yves Jacolin (free)]

Hello,

Le 10/07/2012 12:58, Werner Macho a écrit :

Hi!

Well I won't say "ugly" in any way - even if I would not like them.
I guess Yves would not have taken such a word but he explained it that
his vocabulary is limited.


Yes, as said it is definitevely too strong, my apologies for this.


Of course it is personal preference for everyone - surely.

For sure! But I will need some time to make the change in my mind.


But as
Robert tries to unify the icons for all GIS I am strongly in favour of
using it in QGIS as default too. Most Users even don't know that there
are other icon sets available.
Why not taking the advantage of giving the user the same icon for the
same function in all Open Source GIS?

This is a good thing.


I think after a short while of complaining (not finding the new
function (althoug it is still at the same place), looking bad .. and
such things) people will find out what benefit that would bring to
(for now) GRASS and QGIS ..

:)



But as there is already a poll going on .. just vote .. and express
your meaning ..

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4ffb5dfae4b08ad9dfac3f70


done.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Micha Silver]

  
  
A question regarding the plans for the QGIS icon theme and the GRASS
plugin.

Currently GRASS (standalone) uses Robert's icons, but the QGIS
plugin with the default theme uses other icons. That already could
be a small bit of confusion. But when I switch QGIS to the new GIS
theme, then some of the icons appear duplicated: Add Vector in QGIS
and Add GRASS vector use the same icon. Another possible source of
confusion. 

I'm not sure what I'd suggest to make everything work uniformly. It
would be ideal if the GRASS application icons were identical to the
GRASS plugin icons, but *different* from the generic QGIS "Add
Vector" and "Add raster".

Micha


On 07/10/2012 01:50 PM, Anita Graser wrote:

  You can get a good overview over Robert's work at http://robert.szczepanek.pl/icons.php

  

  Anita

  

  

  
  On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Martin
Landa 
wrote:
Hi,
  
  2012/7/10 Daniel Lee :
  > I also think the GRASS theme is great,
although I have to say that I'm a

  
  it's not a "GRASS theme". wxGUI just uses part of icons from
  [1] which
  was designed by Robert Szczepanek as a generic GIS-related
  icon set
  (AFAIU).
  
  Martin
  
  [1] https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/graphics/trunk/toolbar-icons/24x24/
  

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Sandro Santilli]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:32:49PM +0300, Micha Silver wrote:
>A question regarding the plans for the QGIS icon theme and the GRASS
>plugin.
> 
>Currently GRASS (standalone) uses Robert's icons, but the QGIS plugin with
>the default theme uses other icons. That already could be a small bit of
>confusion. But when I switch QGIS to the new GIS theme, then some of the
>icons appear duplicated: Add Vector in QGIS and Add GRASS vector use the
>same icon. Another possible source of confusion.
> 
>I'm not sure what I'd suggest to make everything work uniformly. It would
>be ideal if the GRASS application icons were identical to the GRASS plugin
>icons, but *different* from the generic QGIS "Add Vector" and "Add
>raster".

What about "Add vector" is a single icon and which kind of vector is choosen
in a second dialog ? Could be shapefile, postgis, spatialite, grass, 

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Micha Silver]

  
  
On 07/10/2012 11:16 PM, Sandro Santilli wrote:

  On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:32:49PM +0300, Micha Silver wrote:

  
   A question regarding the plans for the QGIS icon theme and the GRASS
   plugin.

   Currently GRASS (standalone) uses Robert's icons, but the QGIS plugin with
   the default theme uses other icons. That already could be a small bit of
   confusion. But when I switch QGIS to the new GIS theme, then some of the
   icons appear duplicated: Add Vector in QGIS and Add GRASS vector use the
   same icon. Another possible source of confusion.

   I'm not sure what I'd suggest to make everything work uniformly. It would
   be ideal if the GRASS application icons were identical to the GRASS plugin
   icons, but *different* from the generic QGIS "Add Vector" and "Add
   raster".

  
  
What about "Add vector" is a single icon and which kind of vector is choosen
in a second dialog ? Could be shapefile, postgis, spatialite, grass, 



Good idea. But that's more than just a change in icon theme... It
means moving some of the GRASS plugin functionality to the qgis
core.


  
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Daniel Lee]

What if the add layer buttons were unified - one button that would then
give you the option of adding a shapefile, database table, directory, GRASS
map, etc.? That could consolidate and eliminate a lot of the confusion.


2012/7/10 Micha Silver 

>  A question regarding the plans for the QGIS icon theme and the GRASS
> plugin.
>
> Currently GRASS (standalone) uses Robert's icons, but the QGIS plugin with
> the default theme uses other icons. That already could be a small bit of
> confusion. But when I switch QGIS to the new GIS theme, then some of the
> icons appear duplicated: Add Vector in QGIS and Add GRASS vector use the
> same icon. Another possible source of confusion.
>
> I'm not sure what I'd suggest to make everything work uniformly. It would
> be ideal if the GRASS application icons were identical to the GRASS plugin
> icons, but *different* from the generic QGIS "Add Vector" and "Add raster".
>
> Micha
>
>
>
> On 07/10/2012 01:50 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>
> You can get a good overview over Robert's work at
> http://robert.szczepanek.pl/icons.php
>
>  Anita
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Martin Landa wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2012/7/10 Daniel Lee :
>> > I also think the GRASS theme is great, although I have to say that I'm a
>>
>>  it's not a "GRASS theme". wxGUI just uses part of icons from [1] which
>> was designed by Robert Szczepanek as a generic GIS-related icon set
>> (AFAIU).
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> [1] https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/graphics/trunk/toolbar-icons/24x24/
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Lee  wrote:
> What if the add layer buttons were unified - one button that would then give
> you the option of adding a shapefile, database table, directory, GRASS map,
> etc.? That could consolidate and eliminate a lot of the confusion.
>
>

Indeed this is the long term goal - though it is going to take quite a
bit of work and nobody has yet volunteered to do it. Nathan has made
some nice mockups of how this would work based on discussions we had
at the Lyon hackfest.

This is his original post -
https://plus.google.com/109990125267312011029/posts/WYSNcRtsFsY -
there are more recent mockups but I can't locate them at the moment.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Cast your vote: Default icon theme for QGIS 2.0

[Nathan Woodrow]

There are some more mockups here[0] and here [1].  Ignore the 'To Be
Added to Canvas' section in [1] mockup, we scrapped that idea.

[0] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6170988/open%20dialog%20with%20csv.png
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6170988/filter.png

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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Tim Sutton  wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Lee  wrote:
>> What if the add layer buttons were unified - one button that would then give
>> you the option of adding a shapefile, database table, directory, GRASS map,
>> etc.? That could consolidate and eliminate a lot of the confusion.
>>
>>
>
> Indeed this is the long term goal - though it is going to take quite a
> bit of work and nobody has yet volunteered to do it. Nathan has made
> some nice mockups of how this would work based on discussions we had
> at the Lyon hackfest.
>
> This is his original post -
> https://plus.google.com/109990125267312011029/posts/WYSNcRtsFsY -
> there are more recent mockups but I can't locate them at the moment.
>
> Regards
>
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