Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
New Zealand Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipuk akapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu was also not bad... ;) (TRANSLATION: “The brow of the hill where Tamatea, with the bony knees, slid and climbed mountains. The great traveler sat and played on the flute to his beloved.”) On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 07:44 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi Ok I went with Giovanni's suggestion of Capiopo for this release - see the new splash screen in trunk. Regards Tim On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Benoit de Cabissole ben...@exigesa.com wrote: On 17/10/2010 10:37, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Leong loldog2...@gmail.com wrote: How about hill names as release names? Hills is better than mountains because mountains is always too well known and probably been used by others. Moreover, their shape can be used to differentiate releases. One example: Bohol Any nice pics to go with your suggestion? I quite like the idea since philosophically each release is another hill we have climbed and put behind us :-) Or characteristics contour lines of the hill (we are dealing with GIS after all)? My 2 cents Benoit Lets keep the discussion on-list ok? Regards Tim On 10/17/10, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we could do something with a greater cause as our release names: Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. (suggest your idea) Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would be fine too). Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to similar conflicts as using planetary moons. Regards Tim We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to fight. Thanks, Alex On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 Moscow sounds good and easily memorizable. Maxim Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: TS Hi TS On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. TS Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... This has a few implications: - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. TS *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let TS big corporations take away our fun? :-P TS But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like TS to continue with them... TS Regards TS Tim Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi Ok I went with Giovanni's suggestion of Capiopo for this release - see the new splash screen in trunk. Regards Tim On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Benoit de Cabissole ben...@exigesa.com wrote: On 17/10/2010 10:37, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Leong loldog2...@gmail.com wrote: How about hill names as release names? Hills is better than mountains because mountains is always too well known and probably been used by others. Moreover, their shape can be used to differentiate releases. One example: Bohol Any nice pics to go with your suggestion? I quite like the idea since philosophically each release is another hill we have climbed and put behind us :-) Or characteristics contour lines of the hill (we are dealing with GIS after all)? My 2 cents Benoit Lets keep the discussion on-list ok? Regards Tim On 10/17/10, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote: Hi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we could do something with a greater cause as our release names: Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. (suggest your idea) Sorry in retrospect my original email was probably unclear. It was my intention that we use *real* (hence photographable) place names, but obscure ones that a) have some geographical interest and b) are unlikely to ever have been used by someone as a trademark. Having a theme to the place names would be fine (making them really obscure and interesting was kind of my idea for a theme, but another theme would be fine too). Using well known places e.g. Moscow as Maxim suggests will lead to similar conflicts as using planetary moons. Regards Tim We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to fight. Thanks, Alex On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 Moscow sounds good and easily memorizable. Maxim Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: TS Hi TS On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. TS Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... This has a few implications: - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. TS *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let TS big corporations take away our fun? :-P TS But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like TS to continue with them... TS Regards TS Tim Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming and support services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. This has a few implications: - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Jürgen, We don't have legal resources on call and it could get quite expensive to retain legal support so we very much lean towards avoiding legal conflict. However, if the need is there the board would consider resourcing legal support for the projects. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] Release plans for QGIS 1.6
I agree that real place names is a better idea. I could see lots of Mythical/Fictitious names actually being claimed by people. I will also point out that the Mozilla Foundation uses National Parks/Reserves in the code naming of pre-release firefox branches and suggest that we could do something with a greater cause as our release names: Endangered Species, World Heritage Sites, Rivers, Mountain Peaks, etc.. (suggest your idea) We could also de-emphasize the release name and use it amongst the developer group to keep track of what's being worked on, ie the trunk will have a name leading up to it's release and then switch names. I also agree, to just avoid the issue as it's not worth our effort to fight. Thanks, Alex On 10/16/2010 03:06 PM, Maxim Dubinin wrote: How about making release names geographic. QGIS 1.6 Moscow sounds good and easily memorizable. Maxim Вы писали 16 октября 2010 г., 14:07:10: TS Hi TS On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de wrote: Hi Tim, On Sat, 16. Oct 2010 at 01:42:54 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: We (the PSC) recently received a threat of legal action against our use of the word 'Tethys' in the naming of the 1.5 release of QGIS. It seems that the word Tethys is trademarked by a company in one country. Although we feel their case is weak, we do not have the time, money or inclination to engage in a legal battle over this. Does OSGeo have a position on this? I thought the OSGeo umbrella was also covering legal support. Just curious - that would probably be a waste of time of resources anyway. TS Ok Frank covered that. And yeah we should pick our battles... This has a few implications: - The PSC has agreed to stop using planetary moons as the names for our releases, and embark on a new theme of using extremely obscure place names (e.g. the mythical Tweebuffelsmeteenskootgeskietfontein in South Africa). Do we need codenames at all? Any name - obscure or not - could be a trademark. TS *sniff* lose the release names? That would be no funshould we let TS big corporations take away our fun? :-P TS But yeah theoretically we don't need them, though personally I'd like TS to continue with them... TS Regards TS Tim Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-20 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
