Re: [Qgis-user] qgis & mrsid used to work

2009-11-03 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi, 

obviously my info was outdated.  Looks like karmic support was added on
2009-10-27.   I've now have rebuild qgis for karmic in ubuntugis.


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google

2009-11-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini

In R user do compile, but in a completely automated fashion.
But yes, probably this is asking too much :)
Certainly yes, a plugin mechanism is not very useful if users cannot in
fact plug in anything... ;)
All the best.

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:31:47 -0600, Maxim Dubinin  wrote:
> hmm, are we gonna rewrite everything written in C++ in Python?
> 
> I'm not against if someone is willing to port or rewrite, but I'm certain

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Re: [Qgis-user] plugins organization/grouping proposal

2009-11-03 Thread Νίκος Αλεξανδρής
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 22:55 +0100, G. Allegri wrote:
> Hi all.
> In these days I was watching my qgis plugins toolbar growin' and
> growin'... That's good, it means a lot of good code is being written,
> but I was wondering if it's the time to consider organizing the
> plugins under common task/feature/etc groups. It is a common structure
> in many GIS desktops: GRASS groups them under different "namespaces"
> (r.*, v.*, d.*, i.*, etc.), SAGA use data-types or kind of analysis
> (i.e. "grid", "vector", "table", "terrain analysis" modules, etc.),
> and so on for many others (MapWindows, or commercial solutions like
> ArcGIS Desktop).
> Wouldn't it be useful for QGis too? Has this been discussed?

See http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2009-October/006477.html

Regards, Nikos

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google

2009-11-03 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
>
> I do not see it as very exotic - it certainly raises a lot of interest.
> It would be good, however, to put in place a mechanism for an
> user-installation of plugins (a common problem for several projects, the
> only real solution I know is for R).


 R plugins for Unix with compiled C/C++ code require the user to have
the ability to build from source, so to copy that behaviour will
require the same for Qgis.

 Is there anything in this plugin that fundamentally stops it being
re-written in Python?

Barry
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Re: [Qgis-user] plugins organization/grouping proposal

2009-11-03 Thread Νίκος Αλεξανδρής
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 00:14 +0100, G. Allegri wrote:
> Nikos, I didn't notice your suggestion. Good to know that it's not an
> isolated idea :)
> 
> My two cents.
> In general I feel confortable with a nested model. We could provide a
> first top-level grouping based on the qgis layer type the plugin
> operates on, i.e. raster and vector. We can further subdivide them
> into second-level generic groups like "import/export", "analysis",
> etc. I would avoid groups like "terrain analysis" or "hydrology" at
> this level, even if this is a common approach, and would let them
> reside in lower levels... but I'm not sure whetrer it makes sense or
> it's just a subjective feeling.
> 
> giovanni


+ some more general suggestions:

- no more than 2 levels - if required then (max.) 3 levels
- icons can be smaller (or at least have the option between e.g.: small,
medium, large)
- use the empty space on the very bottom panel (left from coordinate:,
scale:, [box]Render, CRS status button). Maybe merge with the very top
panel (the file - edit - view - ... - help menus)?

Nikos


#
G. Allegri wrote:
> >> Hi all.
> >> In these days I was watching my qgis plugins toolbar growin' and
> >> growin'... That's good, it means a lot of good code is being written,
> >> but I was wondering if it's the time to consider organizing the
> >> plugins under common task/feature/etc groups. It is a common structure
> >> in many GIS desktops: GRASS groups them under different "namespaces"
> >> (r.*, v.*, d.*, i.*, etc.), SAGA use data-types or kind of analysis
> >> (i.e. "grid", "vector", "table", "terrain analysis" modules, etc.),
> >> and so on for many others (MapWindows, or commercial solutions like
> >> ArcGIS Desktop).
> >> Wouldn't it be useful for QGis too? Has this been discussed?

Νίκος Αλεξανδρής:
> > See http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2009-October/006477.html
> > Regards, Nikos

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[Qgis-user] Re: [Qgis-developer] plugins organization/grouping proposal

2009-11-03 Thread Borys Jurgiel
Dne úterý 03 listopadu 2009 22:55:37 G. Allegri napsal(a):
> Hi all.
> In these days I was watching my qgis plugins toolbar growin' and
> growin'... That's good, it means a lot of good code is being written,
> but I was wondering if it's the time to consider organizing the
> plugins under common task/feature/etc groups. It is a common structure
> in many GIS desktops: GRASS groups them under different "namespaces"
> (r.*, v.*, d.*, i.*, etc.), SAGA use data-types or kind of analysis
> (i.e. "grid", "vector", "table", "terrain analysis" modules, etc.),
> and so on for many others (MapWindows, or commercial solutions like
> ArcGIS Desktop).
> Wouldn't it be useful for QGis too? Has this been discussed?

Hi,
Thanks you mention it! It will be my primary task on the incoming Hacfest :) 
Any kind of suggestions wellcome!
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Re: [Qgis-user] plugins organization/grouping proposal

2009-11-03 Thread G. Allegri
Nikos, I didn't notice your suggestion. Good to know that it's not an
isolated idea :)

My two cents.
In general I feel confortable with a nested model. We could provide a
first top-level grouping based on the qgis layer type the plugin
operates on, i.e. raster and vector. We can further subdivide them
into second-level generic groups like "import/export", "analysis",
etc. I would avoid groups like "terrain analysis" or "hydrology" at
this level, even if this is a common approach, and would let them
reside in lower levels... but I'm not sure whetrer it makes sense or
it's just a subjective feeling.

giovanni


2009/11/3 Νίκος Αλεξανδρής :
> On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 22:55 +0100, G. Allegri wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> In these days I was watching my qgis plugins toolbar growin' and
>> growin'... That's good, it means a lot of good code is being written,
>> but I was wondering if it's the time to consider organizing the
>> plugins under common task/feature/etc groups. It is a common structure
>> in many GIS desktops: GRASS groups them under different "namespaces"
>> (r.*, v.*, d.*, i.*, etc.), SAGA use data-types or kind of analysis
>> (i.e. "grid", "vector", "table", "terrain analysis" modules, etc.),
>> and so on for many others (MapWindows, or commercial solutions like
>> ArcGIS Desktop).
>> Wouldn't it be useful for QGis too? Has this been discussed?
>
> See http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2009-October/006477.html
>
> Regards, Nikos
>
>
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[Qgis-user] plugins organization/grouping proposal

2009-11-03 Thread G. Allegri
Hi all.
In these days I was watching my qgis plugins toolbar growin' and
growin'... That's good, it means a lot of good code is being written,
but I was wondering if it's the time to consider organizing the
plugins under common task/feature/etc groups. It is a common structure
in many GIS desktops: GRASS groups them under different "namespaces"
(r.*, v.*, d.*, i.*, etc.), SAGA use data-types or kind of analysis
(i.e. "grid", "vector", "table", "terrain analysis" modules, etc.),
and so on for many others (MapWindows, or commercial solutions like
ArcGIS Desktop).
Wouldn't it be useful for QGis too? Has this been discussed?

bye,
giovanni
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Re: [Qgis-user] qgis & mrsid used to work

2009-11-03 Thread MS

Is this qgis with gdal 1.6.0?  Would it presumably work with mrsid?

Thanks for your help and contributions!

Mark

On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer  wrote:


Hi,

obviously my info was outdated.  Looks like karmic support was added  
on

2009-10-27.   I've now have rebuild qgis for karmic in ubuntugis.


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google

2009-11-03 Thread Maxim Dubinin
hmm, are we gonna rewrite everything written in C++ in Python?

I'm not against if someone is willing to port or rewrite, but I'm certain that
this won't be us, at least not in the near future.

Maxim

BR> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini  
wrote:
>>
>> I do not see it as very exotic - it certainly raises a lot of interest.
>> It would be good, however, to put in place a mechanism for an
>> user-installation of plugins (a common problem for several projects, the
>> only real solution I know is for R).


BR>  R plugins for Unix with compiled C/C++ code require the user to have
BR> the ability to build from source, so to copy that behaviour will
BR> require the same for Qgis.

BR>  Is there anything in this plugin that fundamentally stops it being
BR> re-written in Python?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google

2009-11-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini

I do not see it as very exotic - it certainly raises a lot of interest.
It would be good, however, to put in place a mechanism for an
user-installation of plugins (a common problem for several projects, the
only real solution I know is for R).
All the best.

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:55:58 +0300, Shota Murtskhvaladze

wrote:
> I support the idea.
> 
> 2009/11/3 Maxim Dubinin 
> 
>> I don't mind.
>>
>> The plugin seems a little bit exotic for the core, but if that's what
>> people
>> what than +1 from us.
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Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google

2009-11-03 Thread Maxim Dubinin
I don't mind.

The plugin seems a little bit exotic for the core, but if that's what people
what than +1 from us.

Maxim

Вы писали 2 ноября 2009 г., 10:22:14:

GM> Hi all,

GM> the plugin is really cool, what about placing it in trunk, so it will be
GM> available for everyone out of the box?

GM> cheers

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GM> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 11:21 -0500, Maxim Dubinin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> a little announcement, we've made a new version of our plugin. It
>> gives QGIS several tools for interacting with Google Earth. You can
>> quickly send a feature or the whole layer to GE keeping current layer
>> symbology or override it with your own one. Unique values and single
>> symbol legends are supported.
>> 
>> More info: http://gis-lab.info/qa/qgis2google-eng.html
>> 
>> It is tested and working under Windows/OSGeo4W/trunk and source code is 
>> available
>> for linux hackers.
>> 
>> Maxim
>> 
>> PS: I've recorded a video to have a look how it works, but it turned out
>> to be huge (100 mb) and I couldn't compress it to more reasonable size. You 
>> can still see
>> it, if this is not a problem for you.
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Re: [Qgis-user] qgis & mrsid used to work

2009-11-03 Thread M S
My apologies, I was on my mobile and falsey assumed the trail of email
had the link on the bottom I had been using to setup QGIS and MRSID
GDAL.
http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html

Thanks to the entire community for all contributions and help.

Mark

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Agustin Lobo  wrote:
> Mark,
> which link?
> Agus
>
> MS wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jürgen.  Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>> Does that mean the directions in link posted below are not applicable for
>> qgis/mrsid?
>>
>> The link that explains the build against the sid SDK.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:

 I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
 which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
 broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>
>>> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is
>>> build
>>> with it.
>>>
>>> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain
>>> ubuntu and
>>> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>>>
>>> You should not mix both.
>>>
>>> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic
>>> unless
>>> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] SDA4PP

2009-11-03 Thread Volkan Kepoglu

you should install pywin32 from here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/

mine version is: pywin32-212.win32-py2.5.exe

Volkan


Carson Farmer wrote:
> 
> you also need to install the win32api python libraries:
> http://rpy.sourceforge.net/rpy_download.html
> See the above link, especially the section about notes for windows users.
> 
> Carson
> 
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:51 AM, marcozani...@geosweb.it
>  wrote:
>> After configured the new user variable:
>> Name: R_HOME
>> Value: C:\Programmi\R\R-2.9.1
>> when I go to install the plugin I have a new problem, Qgis
>> want "Python:
>> win32api"
>> I don't know what I have to do...
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Re: [Qgis-user] qgis & mrsid used to work

2009-11-03 Thread Agustin Lobo

Mark,
which link?
Agus

MS wrote:

Hi Jürgen.  Thanks for the explanation.

Does that mean the directions in link posted below are not applicable 
for qgis/mrsid?


The link that explains the build against the sid SDK.

Mark

On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer  wrote:


Hi Mark,

On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:

I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).


ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is 
build

with it.

The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain 
ubuntu and

therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).

You should not mix both.

So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on 
karmic unless

you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.


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Re: [Qgis-user] qgis & mrsid used to work

2009-11-03 Thread Agustin Lobo

Is this "someone" aware of the problem? Will "someone" fix
this problem soon and rebuild the package? Knowing this is important
for ubuntu users to decide whether upgrading to karmic or not.

Agus

Alex Mandel wrote:

Yes, it forces Ubuntu to follow those rules. Though from a technical
standpoint QGIS works fine with 1.6 and 1.6 is actually the preferred
due to some bugs in 1.5. So this whole issue comes down to someone
forgetting to change the rules in the package.

Alex

M S wrote:

Does the dependency between gdal 1.5.0 and qgis suggest that qgis
ubuntugis/unstable binary was built against gdal 1.5.0?

(meaning I cant install qgis without gdal 1.5.0 getting installed, and
cant remove gdal 1.5.0 without removing qgis).

Just trying to broaden my knowledge of the software relationships...

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Alex Mandel  wrote:

A good, that additional information should help us figure out what's
going on.

Thanks,
Alex

M S wrote:

Great, thanks.  This may only be on the 64bit platform, as I did the
same update this morning on a Karmic 32bit system, and the MRSID still
works.

Originally I installed karmic 64bit, then updated all.  Then I added
the qgis/stable and ubuntugis/unstable, and wound up with a qgis
installation that wouldnt work with mr sid. (the gdal1.5.0 issue
perhaps?)

When I took out the qgis/stable, and only used ubuntugis/unstable, I
did get a qgis that could use SIDs.  It looks like last night there
was an update to the ubuntugis?  and when i updated/upgraded, then the
mrsid didnt work on Karmic 64bit.

Interestingly, I upgraded on Karmic qgis and grass (same versions
though?) this morning also on karmic 32bit, and mrsid still worked.

Much thanks,
Mark



On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Alex Mandel  wrote:

That to me sounds like you've got the QGIS repos and the UbuntuGIS
repos. UbuntuGIS should be pulling 1.6.x I will double check with them,
since I do recall in some recent past versions there being an error in
the dependency list that still had 1.5 for QGIS.

Alex

M S wrote:

gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2

if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common


And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.

Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel  wrote:

M S wrote:

I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).

I am using this site to install
http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html

Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.

gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
/usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
/usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.

I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
(?)

gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.

Thanks,
Mark

Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
install.

Alex

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Re: [Qgis-user] qgis & mrsid used to work

2009-11-03 Thread Agustin Lobo

Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Hi Mark,

On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:

I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).


ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is build
with it.


What does this mean? ubuntugis does not support karmic but there are 
binary packages of gdal and qgis for karmic in the ubuntugis repository?


Agus

The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain ubuntu and
therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).

You should not mix both.

So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic unless
you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.


Jürgen



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Re: [Qgis-user] WMS hangs sometimes, Timeouts

2009-11-03 Thread Andreas Neumann
I am answering my own mail to let you know how we solved the problem.

It turned out that our WMS request went through our proxy, which caused
the more or less frequent hangs. I interpreted the proxy exclude list the
wrong way. It is a "starts-with", not a string "contains" URL filter - one
hast to include the "http://"; in the exclude list - otherwise the
request goes to the proxy specified (if turned on).

This has been clarified in the UI of the proxy settings now, to avoid
similar confusion for other users.

All fine now on my side and the WMS hangs disappeared by changing the
proxy exclude list accordingly. Also, performance is now better when
skipping the proxy.

Andreas


On Tue, October 27, 2009 12:19 pm, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I extensively use WMS to display raster data. The WMS is inhouse (in the
> same LAN). Unfortunately, I experience timeouts quite frequently, in
> average every 10 pan/zooms QGIS hangs, waits for 1-2 minutes and then
> displays an error message about a HTTP-Exception, also displaying the URL.
> When I copy/paste the URL to a web-browser, the link just works fine and
> loads immediately.
>
> The thing is that the WMS just works fine from other web-based
> applications and never hangs. I wonder what may be wrong with the way QGIS
> retrieves the WMS results and why it may hang so frequently?
>
> We have a proxy to access the internet, but I added our own WMS as a proxy
> exception, so it shouldn't go through the proxy.
>
> Do other people have the same problems?
>
> I am testing with latest trunk builds on Windows XP and Linux. Similar
> problems/results. The problem existed for a while with the trunk builds.
>
> Thanks for any hints on what we could do/try to resolve the issue. I will
> test the WMS with other clients (gvSig or uDig) to see if it hangs there
> as well or not.
>
> Andreas
>
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[Qgis-user] error using GRASS plugin

2009-11-03 Thread Laura Poggio
Dear all,
I am using Fedora 11 64 bit. I compiled the latest snapshot and it is
working. I then downloaded the latest QGIS svn and compiled it. After
installing the gdal-grass plugin I can see and select the grass plugin in
QGIS. However when I try to open a mapset I get the following error:

Debug: QGIS(17863)/ findLibraryInternal: plugins should not have a 'lib'
prefix: "libkfilemodule.so"
Debug: QGIS(17863)/ KPluginLoader::load: The plugin "libkfilemodule" doesn't
contain a kde_plugin_verification_data structure
ERROR: System not initialized. Programmer forgot to call G_gisinit()

Thank you very much in advance!

Laura
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