Re: [Qgis-user] How install grass documentation

2010-10-04 Thread Micha Silver

 On 03/10/2010 19:52, Andrea Peri 2007 wrote:

 Hi,

Using qgis-dev and the grass plugin,
I notice that in the Grass Tools the documentation is not 
available.


There is some instruction available about the installation 
of grass documentation for use in qgis plugin ?


Are you on Windows? I do see the GRASS manpages from within 
the GRASS Toolbox. How did you install exactly?



Thx,

Andrea Peri.

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Re: [Qgis-user] offline googlemaps (or the like) images

2010-10-04 Thread Mike
I think using google images would violate google's TOS or something like it.
There may be other imagery that you can use - not sure about Yahoo as they
are the background for the OSM potlach.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Vincent Schut sc...@sarvision.nl wrote:

  Hi,

 I'm going to do some fieldwork in some pretty remote places, and I'd like
 to use qgis (combined with the qgismapper plugin to match my gps and
 photo's). What I'd really like to have, is some highres background imagery,
 like the satellite layer from googlemaps. Anyone knows of a way/tool to
 fetch a predifined area of this (or another service which provides highres
 background imagery) as a georeferenced image, so I can use it offline as a
 background layer while gps-wardriving the swamps of Borneo?

 Thanks for any tips!

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Re: [Qgis-user] How install grass documentation

2010-10-04 Thread Andrea Peri 2007


Il 04/10/2010 09:12, Micha Silver ha scritto:

 On 03/10/2010 19:52, Andrea Peri 2007 wrote:

 Hi,

Using qgis-dev and the grass plugin,
I notice that in the Grass Tools the documentation is not available.

There is some instruction available about the installation of grass 
documentation for use in qgis plugin ?


Are you on Windows? I do see the GRASS manpages from within the GRASS 
Toolbox. How did you install exactly?




Yes,
I'm on windows.

I use osgeo4w installer and
choice the qgis-dev 1.6.

Perhaps you are using the qgis 1.5 ?


Thx,

Andrea Peri.

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Re: [Qgis-user] offline googlemaps (or the like) images

2010-10-04 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi,

 I'm going to do some fieldwork in some pretty remote places, and I'd 
 like to use qgis (combined with the qgismapper plugin to match my gps 
 and photo's). What I'd really like to have, is some highres background 
 imagery, like the satellite layer from googlemaps. Anyone knows of a 
 way/tool to fetch a predifined area of this (or another service which 
 provides highres background imagery) as a georeferenced image, so I can 
 use it offline as a background layer while gps-wardriving the swamps of 
 Borneo?

if you get your own imagery you can easily install a wms server on your
machine and connect to it with qgis.

if landsat resolution is enough for you, you may want to have a look at
this tutorial

http://www.gaia-gis.it/rasterlite2/Landsat-HowTo.pdf

cheers

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sample dataset including plug-ins (= was: Re: [Qgis-user] Announcing Time Manager Plugin v 0.1)

2010-10-04 Thread Pierre Chevalier Géologue

Hello,

I start another thread, based on the discussion about time manager dataset.

Noli Sicad claviota:

Very good point. Probably you can have 2 versions with data and
without data. I suggest that probably you can put a link, a button to
get the sample data in one of the plugin widgets. These are all
suggestions to improve usabilities of the qgis plugins in general.


Yes, I plussoie beaucoup. I agree, in a more proper language.



Some of QGIS plugins are hard to figure out if you don't have a properly data 
to work on. And most of the users, have no real use of the plugin at the time 
the plugin is announced and just like to see how it works.


Yes. And this is particularly true in GIS software.
If you look at R, for instance, they provide datasets that can be
accessed so simply. It is excellent, because you are able to *really*
play with data in a matter of seconds, literally.
For instance, in R, all you have to do is:
   contour(10 * (1:nrow(2 * volcano)), 10 * (1:ncol(2 * volcano)), 1.5
* volcano, pretty(range(volcano)))

To get, in ONE line, a contour map from a volcano in New Zealand.

Similarly, to get a perspective view of the same data:
   persp(10 * (1:nrow(2 * volcano)), 10 * (1:ncol(2 * volcano)), 1.5 *
volcano, theta = 140, phi = 30, scale = FALSE, axes = FALSE, shade =
0.5, border = NA)


In fact, the variable 'volcano' seems to directly contain a whole
dataset. No need to do any file/open or anything.

Another example with another dataset provided with R, 'iris':
   pairs(iris[1:4], main=Edgar Anderson's Iris Data, pch=21,bg =
c(red, green3, blue)[unclass(iris$Species)])


In my humble opinion, this solution is extremely effective, from the
end-user-beginner point of view.
Now, back to qgis: there is already the Alaska dataset, also the grass
spearfish dataset.


I would be in favour of compiling a state-of-the-art complete dataset,
so that users can play immediately with it, and get a good feeling about
softwares. Not only plug-ins, but the whole thing. This could be a sort
of standard, a base on which any GIS newbie could rely on to make his
own dataset: just erase all example data, and fill with your own, and
you're up and running.

Such a dataset has, of course, to be free (freedom), it may have data
such as:
   - an srtm dem,
   - a topo map,
   - gpx data,
   - satellite imagery
   - a scanned geological map (sorry, je prêche pour ma paroisse
  = if someone
knows the English

translation, go on and translate ;)
  ),
   - a scanned pedological map,
   - a set of pictures taken from the ground, geotagged,
   - buildings as vectors,
   - roads as vectors,
   - field occupation (occupation du sol, in French: not sure about
translation) as vectors,
   - a postgis database,
   - an sqlite database,
   - a mysql (forgot about postgis equivalent, sorry) database,
   - a whole grass dataset,
   - etc, etc. (unlimited)

Then, any plug-in developer should add to this dataset some sample data.
I think such a sample dataset should be:
   - well-structured (state of the art = so that the GIS newbies can
inherit from the experience/errors from senior users),
   - small, in terms of size: this way, when a user tries some features,
  it doesn't run for hours or colonize the whole user's RAM,
   - available separately from the software itself (regarding issues
mentioned during the initial discussion); if it was for instance a linux
package, it could be something like qgis-sample-data.


The spearfish dataset could well be a base for such an exercise. Or
Alaska.
Or anything else. There was a Doncaster totally fake dataset, provided
with GDM (geological package): it was invented, by mixing different data
from various places, mangling data.


I hope if it will be in python plugin repository soon. I just like to try it.


If such a solution was adopted, then every plugin developer should add
relevant data in the sample data set. Or, maybe, publish on the
repository a small dataset, which would make the complement of the
existing whole dataset?

Your opinions? Silly ideas? Utopia?...

A+
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[Qgis-user] offline googlemaps (or the like) images

2010-10-04 Thread Vincent Schut

 Hi,

I'm going to do some fieldwork in some pretty remote places, and I'd 
like to use qgis (combined with the qgismapper plugin to match my gps 
and photo's). What I'd really like to have, is some highres background 
imagery, like the satellite layer from googlemaps. Anyone knows of a 
way/tool to fetch a predifined area of this (or another service which 
provides highres background imagery) as a georeferenced image, so I can 
use it offline as a background layer while gps-wardriving the swamps of 
Borneo?


Thanks for any tips!

Vincent.
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Re: [Qgis-user] mac owners: please test new html image map plugin: set size of image

2010-10-04 Thread sergio sevillano
you mean this plugin
http://blog.qgis.org/node/105
?



El 03/10/2010, a las 19:31, Richard Duivenvoorde escribió:

 Hi,
 
 Somebody asked the ability to set the exact size of an image to be saved
 with the html image map plugin (or just setting the size of the mapcanvas).
 
 I've implemented this possibility in the plugin now (v0.5.0), but needed
 some OS-specific offset stuff, and am not able to test it on a mac
 (linux and windows seem ok)
 
 If users of the plugin which own a mac can have a look, and let me know
 if the size is NOT ok that would be great. Specially the use case where
 you maximized the qgis window before setting a image/mapcanvas size (...
 is this possible on a mac anyway ?).
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard Duivenvoorde
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[Qgis-user] Re: offline googlemaps (or the like) images

2010-10-04 Thread Tim Michelsen

 if you get your own imagery you can easily install a wms server on your
 machine and connect to it with qgis.
Look also at featureserver. T

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Re: [Qgis-user] offline googlemaps (or the like) images

2010-10-04 Thread Noli Sicad
 if you get your own imagery you can easily install a wms server on your
 machine and connect to it with qgis.

I don't  think WMS can do offline. This is the weakness of web mapping
services, if I am not mistaken, it piggyback on TC/IP protocol (i.e
without Internet connection is the services useless).

I have looking at offline mapping for a while now.  GMapCatcher[1] is
solution since it has offline download feature. It can download from
CloudMade, OpenStreetMap, Yahoo Maps, Google Map and use the download
tile maps offline

Now, the question is how can use the data for Qgis google layers plugin?

Vincent, you can probably figure this out - Hack the qgis google
layers plugin python code.

BTW, it has options to save data in files or in Sqlite3 as well.

Anybody interested on hacking qmapper data for Qgis?

I think will provide offline mapping solution for QGIS

Noli


[1] http://code.google.com/p/gmapcatcher/
GMapCatcher is an offline maps viewer. It downloads tiles
automatically from many providers such as: CloudMade, OpenStreetMap,
Yahoo Maps, Google Map. It displays them using a custom GUI. User can
view the maps while offline. GMapCatcher doesn't depend on
google-map's java scripts so it should work even if google changes
them. It alsg provides a downloading tool.

GMapCatcher is written in Python 2.6, can run on Linux, Windows and Mac OSX.

http://code.google.com/p/gmapcatcher/downloads/list


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Re: sample dataset including plug-ins (= was: Re: [Qgis-user] Announcing Time Manager Plugin v 0.1)

2010-10-04 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Pierre,

This is very good idea.

I myself don't deal with raster data at this moment, hence, all those
plugins dealing with raster is no use to me at this moment.

(Cross posted to Qgis developer)

Let see the developers feedbacks on your suggestions.

Noli

On 10/5/10, Pierre Chevalier Géologue pierrechevalierg...@free.fr wrote:
 Hello,

 I start another thread, based on the discussion about time manager dataset.

 Noli Sicad claviota:
 Very good point. Probably you can have 2 versions with data and
 without data. I suggest that probably you can put a link, a button to
 get the sample data in one of the plugin widgets. These are all
 suggestions to improve usabilities of the qgis plugins in general.

 Yes, I plussoie beaucoup. I agree, in a more proper language.


 Some of QGIS plugins are hard to figure out if you don't have a properly
 data to work on. And most of the users, have no real use of the plugin at
 the time the plugin is announced and just like to see how it works.

 Yes. And this is particularly true in GIS software.
 If you look at R, for instance, they provide datasets that can be
 accessed so simply. It is excellent, because you are able to *really*
 play with data in a matter of seconds, literally.
 For instance, in R, all you have to do is:
 contour(10 * (1:nrow(2 * volcano)), 10 * (1:ncol(2 * volcano)), 1.5
 * volcano, pretty(range(volcano)))

 To get, in ONE line, a contour map from a volcano in New Zealand.

 Similarly, to get a perspective view of the same data:
 persp(10 * (1:nrow(2 * volcano)), 10 * (1:ncol(2 * volcano)), 1.5 *
 volcano, theta = 140, phi = 30, scale = FALSE, axes = FALSE, shade =
 0.5, border = NA)


 In fact, the variable 'volcano' seems to directly contain a whole
 dataset. No need to do any file/open or anything.

 Another example with another dataset provided with R, 'iris':
 pairs(iris[1:4], main=Edgar Anderson's Iris Data, pch=21,bg =
 c(red, green3, blue)[unclass(iris$Species)])


 In my humble opinion, this solution is extremely effective, from the
 end-user-beginner point of view.
 Now, back to qgis: there is already the Alaska dataset, also the grass
 spearfish dataset.


 I would be in favour of compiling a state-of-the-art complete dataset,
 so that users can play immediately with it, and get a good feeling about
 softwares. Not only plug-ins, but the whole thing. This could be a sort
 of standard, a base on which any GIS newbie could rely on to make his
 own dataset: just erase all example data, and fill with your own, and
 you're up and running.

 Such a dataset has, of course, to be free (freedom), it may have data
 such as:
 - an srtm dem,
 - a topo map,
 - gpx data,
 - satellite imagery
 - a scanned geological map (sorry, je prêche pour ma paroisse
= if someone
 knows the English

 translation, go on and translate ;)
),
 - a scanned pedological map,
 - a set of pictures taken from the ground, geotagged,
 - buildings as vectors,
 - roads as vectors,
 - field occupation (occupation du sol, in French: not sure about
 translation) as vectors,
 - a postgis database,
 - an sqlite database,
 - a mysql (forgot about postgis equivalent, sorry) database,
 - a whole grass dataset,
 - etc, etc. (unlimited)

 Then, any plug-in developer should add to this dataset some sample data.
 I think such a sample dataset should be:
 - well-structured (state of the art = so that the GIS newbies can
 inherit from the experience/errors from senior users),
 - small, in terms of size: this way, when a user tries some features,
it doesn't run for hours or colonize the whole user's RAM,
 - available separately from the software itself (regarding issues
 mentioned during the initial discussion); if it was for instance a linux
 package, it could be something like qgis-sample-data.


 The spearfish dataset could well be a base for such an exercise. Or
 Alaska.
 Or anything else. There was a Doncaster totally fake dataset, provided
 with GDM (geological package): it was invented, by mixing different data
 from various places, mangling data.

 I hope if it will be in python plugin repository soon. I just like to try
 it.

 If such a solution was adopted, then every plugin developer should add
 relevant data in the sample data set. Or, maybe, publish on the
 repository a small dataset, which would make the complement of the
 existing whole dataset?

 Your opinions? Silly ideas? Utopia?...

 A+
 Pierre

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Re: sample dataset including plug-ins (= was: Re: [Qgis-user] Announcing Time Manager Plugin v 0.1)

2010-10-04 Thread maning sambale
This is a great suggestion.  I've used GRASS old spearfish dataset
while trying to learn GRASS in the past.
Additional points for discussion:
- application domain - QGIS is a general purpose tool.  A biologist, a
geologist, a local government or a small community would have very
different data requirements.  A generic dataset cannot cater to all.
Probably good to create multiple datasets and allow each group to
curate each dataset.
- geographic location - during my beginner gis courses, I find that
participants appreciate the concepts if they work on a local
dataset.  A good resource is openstreetmap.

For cartography related plugins and exercises, I suggest you use the
Natural Earth dataset.

2010/10/4 Pierre Chevalier Géologue pierrechevalierg...@free.fr:
 I would be in favour of compiling a state-of-the-art complete dataset,
 so that users can play immediately with it, and get a good feeling about
 softwares. Not only plug-ins, but the whole thing. This could be a sort
 of standard, a base on which any GIS newbie could rely on to make his
 own dataset: just erase all example data, and fill with your own, and
 you're up and running.

 Such a dataset has, of course, to be free (freedom), it may have data
 such as:
   - an srtm dem,
   - a topo map,
   - gpx data,
   - satellite imagery
   - a scanned geological map (sorry, je prêche pour ma paroisse
                                                          = if someone
 knows the English

 translation, go on and translate ;)
                                              ),
   - a scanned pedological map,
   - a set of pictures taken from the ground, geotagged,
   - buildings as vectors,
   - roads as vectors,
   - field occupation (occupation du sol, in French: not sure about
 translation) as vectors,
   - a postgis database,
   - an sqlite database,
   - a mysql (forgot about postgis equivalent, sorry) database,
   - a whole grass dataset,
   - etc, etc. (unlimited)



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[Qgis-user] Re: Projection of Shapefile export

2010-10-04 Thread Roland Hill




Brett,

I am using Linux and from a previous email I think Ken is as well. Yes,
it is working on my Linux system.

I tried installing QGIS onto a Windows 7 system using both the
Standalone and OsGeo installers. In both cases I couldn't get it to
work correctly. The standalone installer version placed AGD66 and GDA94
versions of my test point 11m apart when it should be more like 200m.
The OsGeo version just refused to display the AGD66 point.

I am not sure where to go with it on Windows. I haven't used it for a
long time. Maybe someone more familiar with the Windows setup can help.

Cheers,

Roland



 
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On 04/10/10 17:06, Brett Adams wrote:

  
Roland / Ken,
  
Sorry to disappear like that. Got called into the dessert for a few
days.
  
I tried loading these new files up but can't get them to work. All
three projections are now plotting in exactly the same place. 
  
Ran a search on the QGIS directory and replaced the AGD84 / AGD66 gsb
files with the new ones. Also replaced the srs.db file.
  
I'm assuming you both got this to work. Am I missing a step?
  
Brett
  
  
  
On 24/09/2010 7:25 PM, Roland Hill wrote:
  


Ken / Brett,

The only thing we know for certain is that we are all out of our
depths! Regardless, I think we are on the way to solving this.

Please find a new srs.db here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/srs.db.

The new file incorporates both towgs84 parameters and a reference to
the distortion files. The distortion file values appear to take
precedence, but I have included the towgs84 parameters as it looks like
the AGD84 distortion files do not cover the states and territories that
did not adopt AGD84. Note that I have changed the AGD66 towgs84
parameters to national ones (previously ACT) according to this document
(page 31) http://www.icsm.gov.au/gda/gdatm/gdav2.3.pdf.

To use the distortion files you need to place these files http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/agd66.gsb
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9546967/agd84.gsb
in your Proj data directory (/usr/share/proj on Linux). It is the
directory containing the 'epsg' and 'proj_def.dat' files. Make sure
that this is the directory your Proj installation is actually using by
checking the contents of the PROJ_LIB environment variable (echo
$PROJ_LIB). It may not be set, which is OK. It took me about 4 hours to
figure out I had set it to an old development directory several years
ago!

Note that I did try it without the +wktext parameter. It works in Proj
(using cs2cs), but QGIS needs it.

Let me know how it goes on your test points.

Cheers,

Roland


 

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On 24/09/10 07:27, Ken Norris wrote:

  Roland, 

I incorporated your srs.db but the translation falls about 30m short (in
Melbourne) and about the same distance out at a control point in southern
Tasmania. 

I see you use the National parameters that '... have an estimated accuracy
of about 1 metre.' and are most accurate around Canberra (surprise).
Geoscience recommend use of their distortion tables (xxx.gsb) for more
accurate work Australia-wide.

Can you incorporate the parameter reference to the distortion tables in the
srs.db? I, like Brett, am out of my depth here.

Regards
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Re: [Qgis-user] Re: offline googlemaps (or the like) images

2010-10-04 Thread Noli Sicad
 if you get your own imagery you can easily install a wms server on your
 machine and connect to it with qgis.
 Look also at featureserver. T

WFS is another web service using TC/IP - opposite to offline mapping service.

What is needed is cached tile map services.

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