Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Alex Mandel
On 09/29/2011 11:12 PM, Emile Peek wrote:
 
 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.
 
 What is the Grass database? What can I retrieve from it? Maps, sure, but what 
 kind of maps? What is the scope of the GRASS database?
 
 What goes for GRass goes for other databases as well? What is on those 
 databases? Where can I find that kind of information? 
 
 Answering my questions would mean much to me because right now I am 
 struggling.
 
 Emile.
 
 

GRASS is a geospatial analysis framework and toolset. The GRASS database
is custom formats specifically geared toward such analysis tasks and is
not suitable for anything else.

QGIS is a visualization and analysis front end which can hook into many
backends, GRASS, postgis, spatialite, multitude of python plugins, and
soon SAGA and OTB toolboxes (I'm sure I missed some things).

You can only retrieve data that is some reworking of what you put into
it. Example, given an elevation dataset you can generate a hillshade to
put behind other map layers. It does not come with data (other than a
few samples)

It might be most useful for you to look at the some slides and papers on
QGIS  Inkscape for cartography.

The most important difference here is that maps made with QGIS can
contain real data that is referenced to a real place on earth in such a
way that you can give that data to other people and it will show up in
the same place on earth in their viewer - be it QGIS, ArcGIS, Openlayers
or any other geospatial map viewing product.

Enjoy,
Alex
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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with saga module interface 0.17

2011-09-30 Thread Agustin Lobo
Unfortunately, actually still have the problem on another machine,
also with ubuntu lucid (and with the framework plugin of qgis
installed):
The puglin installer states:
The plugin is broken. Python said:
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/_saga_api.so: undefined symbol:
_ZNK23CSG_Regression_Multiple5Get_REv
alobo@alobo-laptop:~$ dpkg -l | grep saga
ii  libsaga
2.0.7+svn1155+11~lucid1 SAGA GIS development
files
ii  libsaga-dev
2.0.7+svn1155+11~lucid1 SAGA GIS development
files
ii  python-saga
2.0.7+svn1155+11~lucid1 SAGA GIS python
bindings
ii  saga
2.0.7+svn1155+11~lucid1 System for Automated
Geoscientific Analyses


alobo@alobo-laptop:~$ dpkg -l | grep qgis
ii  libqgis-dev   1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Quantum GIS - development files
ii  libqgis1.7.1  1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Quantum GIS - shared libraries
ii  python-qgis   1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Python bindings to Quantum GIS
ii  python-qgis-common1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Python bindings to Quantum GIS -
architecture-independ
ii  qgis  1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Geographic Information System (GIS)
ii  qgis-api-doc  1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Quantum GIS API documentation
ii  qgis-common   1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Quantum GIS - architecture-independent data
ii  qgis-plugin-grass 1.7.1-1~lucid1
   GRASS plugin for Quantum GIS
ii  qgis-plugin-grass-common  1.7.1-1~lucid1
   GRASS plugin for Quantum GIS -
architecture-independen
ii  qgis-providers1.7.1-1~lucid1
   collection of data providers to Quantum GIS
ii  qgis-providers-common 1.7.1-1~lucid1
   collection of data providers to Quantum GIS
- architec
ii  qgis-sqlanywhere1.7.1 1.7.1-1~lucid1
   Quantum GIS sql anywhere plugin and
provider

Thanks


2011/9/22 Agustin Lobo alobolis...@gmail.com:
 That was it, problem solved.
 Thanks
 Agus

 2011/9/22 Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@gmail.com:
 Have you installed the framework processing manager plugin?

 Cheers

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 On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 10:16 +0200, Agustin Lobo wrote:
 Since few days ago I cannot install the saga module interface 0.17. Qgis 
 claims

 The plugin depends on some components missing on your system. You need
 to install the following Python module in order to enable it:
 processingplugin.processing

 I do have the saga python bindings 2.0.7+dfsg-0.5~lucid

 Any advice on what to do?

 Agus
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 2011-09-30 08:12, Emile Peek wrote:
 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.

Hi Emile,

I'm not into GRASS, but for your info:

I've been working with Hugo Lopes (in cc) to make wikimedia maps with
qgis and svg: see for example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Resources/QGis_lesson_3:_Raster_to_vector_and_Change_projection#Export_GIS_Vectors_.26_Raster_layers_to_SVG_.28100.25.29

We have tried to make a plugin to make it possible to export (simple)
maps as svg in a way that editing in inkscape is easier (keep features
of a class in one group, keep features in a layer, naming a group the
name of a layer, naming a point the label name etc etc).

Maybe this can be usefull also.

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread adams
Hi Emile,

just for making maps you for sure do not need GRASS, GRASS is the
Geographic Raster Analysis Support System - a GIS tool for real
working with GIS data, but definetely not for creating nice maps... ;-)

Therefore I think the print-composer of QGIS is very helpful, there was
also a talk at FOSS4G recently, dealing with making maps with QGIS and
Inkscape:

http://2011.foss4g.org/sessions/quantum-gis-inkscape-cartographic-tools-attractive-maps

I think very soon you might get the presentations lsides and also a
video of the presentation itself.

Regards, Till




On 30.09.2011 14:18, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
 On 2011-09-30 08:12, Emile Peek wrote:
 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.
 
 Hi Emile,
 
 I'm not into GRASS, but for your info:
 
 I've been working with Hugo Lopes (in cc) to make wikimedia maps with
 qgis and svg: see for example
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Resources/QGis_lesson_3:_Raster_to_vector_and_Change_projection#Export_GIS_Vectors_.26_Raster_layers_to_SVG_.28100.25.29
 
 We have tried to make a plugin to make it possible to export (simple)
 maps as svg in a way that editing in inkscape is easier (keep features
 of a class in one group, keep features in a layer, naming a group the
 name of a layer, naming a point the label name etc etc).
 
 Maybe this can be usefull also.
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with Metatools

2011-09-30 Thread Sebastian Anderka
Another quick question regarding Metatools: I tried to install it with 
QGIS 1.7.0 (installed via OSGeo4W) on Win 7 64-bit, but it doesn't show 
up in the plugin repository. I already double-checked GIS-Lab's 
repository-URL, all should be fine, and I also see their other plugins. 
I really can't see where the problem is? Any suggestions?


Best regards,
Sebastian

Am 29.09.2011 09:40, schrieb Alexander Bruy:

Hi Agustin,

2011/9/28 Agustin Loboalobolis...@gmail.com:

1. In Apply Templates/Data Type, clicking on Manage gives the following error:
An error has occured while executing Python code:
2. The 2 boxes in  Apply Templates (Extract Layer... and Generate
previre...) must be clicked every time.

Both should be fixed in v0.2.2


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[Qgis-user] Using GRIB2 in QGIS

2011-09-30 Thread Ezra Boyd
Hello,

I am trying to use the Real Time Ocean Forecasting System
(http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/ofs/download.shtml?) archival data which
is in the GRIB2 format using a hybrid model-based coordinate system.
The data can be downloaded from here:
http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/opendap/ncep/rtofs/contents.html

Has anyone had any experience using GRIB2 in QGIS?  If so, please let
me know how it worked out.  In particular, I need to get forecast data
into a format where I can overlay a shapefile, but the wqgrib2 program
won't work because hybrid coordinate system.

Thanks,
Ezra
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Re: [Qgis-user] Using GRIB2 in QGIS

2011-09-30 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi,

you need to check if it supported (out of the box, or at all) by
GDAL/OGR

http://www.gdal.org/formats_list.html

http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html


cheers


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On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 11:43 -0500, Ezra Boyd wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to use the Real Time Ocean Forecasting System
 (http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/ofs/download.shtml?) archival data which
 is in the GRIB2 format using a hybrid model-based coordinate system.
 The data can be downloaded from here:
 http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/opendap/ncep/rtofs/contents.html
 
 Has anyone had any experience using GRIB2 in QGIS?  If so, please let
 me know how it worked out.  In particular, I need to get forecast data
 into a format where I can overlay a shapefile, but the wqgrib2 program
 won't work because hybrid coordinate system.
 
 Thanks,
 Ezra
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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with Metatools

2011-09-30 Thread Kari Salovaara

Hi,

I noticed (in Linux) that it appers to list by setting Allowed plugins 
option Show al plugins, even those marked experimental. in QGIS Python 
Plugin Installer which You can find under toolbar title Plugins.


Cheers,
Kari

On 09/30/2011 04:41 PM, Sebastian Anderka wrote:
Another quick question regarding Metatools: I tried to install it with 
QGIS 1.7.0 (installed via OSGeo4W) on Win 7 64-bit, but it doesn't 
show up in the plugin repository. I already double-checked GIS-Lab's 
repository-URL, all should be fine, and I also see their other 
plugins. I really can't see where the problem is? Any suggestions?


Best regards,
Sebastian

Am 29.09.2011 09:40, schrieb Alexander Bruy:

Hi Agustin,

2011/9/28 Agustin Loboalobolis...@gmail.com:
1. In Apply Templates/Data Type, clicking on Manage gives the 
following error:

An error has occured while executing Python code:
2. The 2 boxes in  Apply Templates (Extract Layer... and Generate
previre...) must be clicked every time.

Both should be fixed in v0.2.2


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Re: [Qgis-user] Using GRIB2 in QGIS

2011-09-30 Thread Brent Fraser

Ezra,

  QGIS uses GDAL to read GRIB files.  GDAL's GRIB driver will not read 
the files on the site you listed as the g2clib GDAL uses is too old 
(v1.0.4) and does not support the GRIB GDT 3.204 Curvilinear Orthogonal 
Grid  (supported in g2clib v 1.0.5).


Best Regards,
Brent Fraser


On 9/30/2011 10:43 AM, Ezra Boyd wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to use the Real Time Ocean Forecasting System
(http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/ofs/download.shtml?) archival data which
is in the GRIB2 format using a hybrid model-based coordinate system.
The data can be downloaded from here:
http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/opendap/ncep/rtofs/contents.html

Has anyone had any experience using GRIB2 in QGIS?  If so, please let
me know how it worked out.  In particular, I need to get forecast data
into a format where I can overlay a shapefile, but the wqgrib2 program
won't work because hybrid coordinate system.

Thanks,
Ezra
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Alex Mandel
Take a class or workshop at a local school, or read a few intro
books.(http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781934356067.do)

You could also start with the QGIS Manual, or the QGIS Gentle
Introduction pdf (both on qgis.org).

Thanks,
Alex

On 09/30/2011 04:29 AM, Emile Peek wrote:
 
 What I am really trying to say is that I don't know where to start studying 
 GIS. 
 What can you advise me to study so that I can get a working grasp (instead of 
 a theoretical one) of the possibilities of GIS?
 
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:21:22 -0700
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 To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

 On 09/29/2011 11:12 PM, Emile Peek wrote:

 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.

 What is the Grass database? What can I retrieve from it? Maps, sure, but 
 what kind of maps? What is the scope of the GRASS database?

 What goes for GRass goes for other databases as well? What is on those 
 databases? Where can I find that kind of information? 

 Answering my questions would mean much to me because right now I am 
 struggling.

 Emile.

   

 GRASS is a geospatial analysis framework and toolset. The GRASS database
 is custom formats specifically geared toward such analysis tasks and is
 not suitable for anything else.

 QGIS is a visualization and analysis front end which can hook into many
 backends, GRASS, postgis, spatialite, multitude of python plugins, and
 soon SAGA and OTB toolboxes (I'm sure I missed some things).

 You can only retrieve data that is some reworking of what you put into
 it. Example, given an elevation dataset you can generate a hillshade to
 put behind other map layers. It does not come with data (other than a
 few samples)

 It might be most useful for you to look at the some slides and papers on
 QGIS  Inkscape for cartography.

 The most important difference here is that maps made with QGIS can
 contain real data that is referenced to a real place on earth in such a
 way that you can give that data to other people and it will show up in
 the same place on earth in their viewer - be it QGIS, ArcGIS, Openlayers
 or any other geospatial map viewing product.

 Enjoy,
 Alex
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[Qgis-user] Can't get printed or plotted output

2011-09-30 Thread Chris kierst
Hi people!
 
Qgis newbie here, though I'm an experienced GIS user (ArcGIS), but not a guru, 
just a geologist.  I created a map in Qgis and also three Print Composer 
instances.  I set up one as a plotter file (Print Composer #1, 42 X 60) and 
another as a PDF (Print Composer #3, print as raster checked) after failing 
to get a completely plotted map document.  The plotter output has a large area 
of empty paper in the middle as well as two narrow bands of empty space, 
all surrounded by the incomplete map.  When I try the PDF workaround to simply 
get usable output that I can send to the plotter, I get an incomplete PDF 
document and a message Exception - bad allocation).    Anyone have any 
suggestions?  Not sure if this is a plotter problem, a Qgis garbage-in problem 
or ???  
 
1. Is there an organized Qgis printer/plotter troubleshooting forum that I can 
look at for some tips?  
2. Is there an organized procedure that I must follow to ensure getting good 
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2011/9/30 adams ad...@terrestris.de:
 just for making maps you for sure do not need GRASS, GRASS is the
 Geographic Raster Analysis Support System - a GIS tool for real
 working with GIS data, but definetely not for creating nice maps... ;-)

that's not really true, see wxGUI Cartographic Composer [1] and ps.map
module [2] ;-)

Martin

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Cartographic_Composer
[2] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/ps.map.html

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