Re: [Qgis-user] SAGA-GIS on OS X 10.7

2013-04-16 Thread William Kyngesburye
On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:11 AM, gvSIGMac wrote:

> Error while checking SAGA installation. SAGA might not be correctly 
> configured.
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File 
> "/Applications/QGIS_2.0-dev.app/Contents/Resources/python/plugins/sextante/saga/SagaUtils.py",
>  line 146, in checkSagaIsInstalled
> from sextante.core.Sextante import runalg
> ImportError: cannot import name runalg


I looked closer at your error.  You may have grabbed your source in the middle 
of some updates by Victor.  It's not even getting to the point of trying to run 
the saga test command, it can't import the sextante module needed.

Your sextante has:

from sextante.core.Sextante import runalg

but now in the dev source it's:

from sextante import runalg

Try updating your source and rebuilding QGIS.

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[Qgis-user] How define the "other" condition on a classification render

2013-04-16 Thread Andrea Peri
Hi,

I'm using the qgis-dev version of qgis.
Is possible to define the 'other values' condition in the
"categorized" style ?

Thx

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to display a scale bar in km on a map in degrees?

2013-04-16 Thread Marco Hugentobler

Hi Philippe

In the nightly build, it is possible to have a composer scale bar in km 
for maps in degrees. The scalebar however only shows the scale near the 
bottom left of the composer map (the scale is not constant in maps in 
degrees, as others already noted).


Regards,
Marco

Am 16.04.2013 22:01, schrieb Philippe Puig:


I am the poster of this question and I want to thank all those who 
took the time to answer it.


My problem is not trivial for two reasons:

-I work in the Northern Territory (NT), in Australia. The western part 
of the NT is in UTM zone 52 and the eastern part in UTM zone 53;


-maps I create often straddle the zone 52/zone 53 boundary and cannot 
be in m using our standard projections;


-most baseline GIS work in the Northern Territory is carried out by 
the Government in ArcGIS. ArcGIS allows to display a  scale bar in km 
on a map in degrees and therefore most map users here expect to have a 
km scale bar on degrees maps.


I work for a small independent organisation focused on natural 
resource management.


I decided that our GIS would be entirely based on freeware.

I chose QGIS as our main GIS software.

As I am often expected to emulate ArcGIS, the scale bar issue matters 
to me.


Now I know that QGIS does not offer the km scale bar  possibility 
offered by ArcGIS.


I will therefore use a work around  consisting in creating grids of 
suitable mesh size (eg 100 km) in both UTM 52 and UTM 53.  I will then 
reproject them in DA94  (the Australian standard degrees CRS) and 
merge them in GA 94 as a single grid which I will use as a guide to 
create (approximate) km scale bars in my GDA94 maps.


Philippe



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Re: [Qgis-user] How to display a scale bar in km on a map in degrees?

2013-04-16 Thread Philippe Puig
I am the poster of this question and I want to thank all those who took the
time to answer it.

 

My problem is not trivial for two reasons:

-  I work in the Northern Territory (NT), in Australia. The western
part of the NT is in UTM zone 52 and the eastern part in UTM zone 53;

-  maps I create often straddle the zone 52/zone 53 boundary and
cannot be in m using our standard projections; 

-  most baseline GIS work in the Northern Territory is carried out
by the Government in ArcGIS. ArcGIS allows to display a  scale bar in km on
a map in degrees and therefore most map users here expect to have a km scale
bar on degrees maps.

 

I work for a small independent organisation focused on natural resource
management. 

I decided that our GIS would be entirely based on freeware.

I chose QGIS as our main GIS software.

 

As I am often expected to emulate ArcGIS, the scale bar issue matters to me.


Now I know that QGIS does not offer the km scale bar  possibility offered by
ArcGIS.

 

I will therefore use a work around  consisting in creating grids of suitable
mesh size (eg 100 km) in both UTM 52 and UTM 53.  I will then reproject them
in DA94  (the Australian standard degrees CRS) and merge them in GA 94 as a
single grid which I will use as a guide to create (approximate) km scale
bars in my GDA94 maps.

 

Philippe

 

 

 

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to display a scale bar in km on a map in degrees?

2013-04-16 Thread AntonioLocandro
I think the issue here is the need to have a scale bar in feet/meters and as
Carlos noted a LatLon grid, in other commercial software you can do this
very simple since you can choose the units of the scale bar and the
representation of the grid

I agree the correct way to do it would be to use a projection since you are
giving a representation on a flat surface "paper" and add the grid in
LAT/LON,we do this all the time in aviation, we need the map printed in a
conformal projection but we need the grid in Lat/Lon as we express the
coordinates on the map.

QGIS would be better off if one can set the scale bar units and also the
grid units. The data itself can be in WGS84 (or whatever) you enable OTF
projection and select the projection you want for printing then select the
scale bar in the print composer and select units (feet, meters, nautical
miles, miles, km, etc) and then select grid style (latlon, northing/easting,
etc). I believe its not possible right now


b.j.kobben wrote
> Dear Carlos, 
> 
> I understand that you think the combination is useful, but my point is
> actually that the scale bar is NOT useful because it is plain wrong, it
> does not even approximate distances in many places in the map! Try
> wrapping you head around the fact that the North Pole (a single point of
> length 0 km) is actually shown as a line of the same length as the equator
> (40075 km), and you see how wrong your "approximate" distances can be!
> 
> 
> And you do not answer my question: why not use UTM or another projection
> to start with? Latlon SEEMS simple, but many casual users fail to
> understand that they are actually looking at angles from the center of a
> Globe, plotted as if they are XY-coordinates on plain.
> 
> 
> And do not worry, your english is fine!
> 
> Barend
> 
> On 15-04-13 22:17, "Carlos Cerdán" <

> sig.upagu@

> > wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>
>>2013/4/15 <

> b.j.kobben@

> >
>>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>I appreciate the clever tip for having a km scale bar on a lat-long maop,
>>but as a cartogra[her I must protest, because the scale bar is of course
>>mostly nonsensical. The differences in distances between the two (mercator
>>projected UTM and non-projected degrees) can potentially be huge. The
>>scale bar therefore cant be grossly wrong...
>>
>>
>>
>>Ajá.. As a simple user I find useful a scale bar to measure approximate
>>distances on a lat-long map.
>>
>>If you have your map in UTM, why not print that one with the proper scale
>>bar? The question to the original poster therefore would be: why do you
>>feel the need to have a map in degrees, why not use one that is projected
>>and where km is the proper scale-bar...?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>In the same sense: If you want  to show the location of a place on Earth
>>to not GIS skills people, Lat-Long is useful for a first reading location
>>and scale bar to measure approximate distances ... so Why no use that
>>combination?
>>
>>
>>
>>Developers please fix an issue (Correct me if it's not an issue):
>>when you have two or more maps in a compositor and the scale bar is
>>related to map 1 (or more), and you close your file, next time you open
>>it, scale bar is related to Map 0 and you have to select Map 1 again.
>>(QGIS 1.8 - Ubuntu 12.04).
>>
>>
>>Carlos Cerdán
>>
>>
>>
>>PD Sorry if my English is bad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to display a scale bar in km on a map in degrees?

2013-04-16 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Should't be enough plotting in UTM with grid and overlying also Latlong
grid?
Il giorno 16/apr/2013 15.46, "Carlos Cerdán"  ha
scritto:

> Hi Barend:
>
> You're right, Lat-long maps are just a plane representation of another
> representation of Earth as an ellipsoid and fails on poles.
>
>> why not use UTM or another projection to start with?
>
> Because some times we need simple maps, for example touristic maps of
> small areas where you can forgot the ellipsoid and take Earth as plane.
> Examples here:
>
> - http://www.rumbosonline.com/images/issue13/13-64-map.jpg
> -
> http://www.kuelapadventure.com/spanish/index.php/tips-de-viajero/mapa-turistico-chachapoyas
>
> A Lat-long grid would be useful to locate any place of these maps in
> Google Earth but it's missed on both of them.
>
> An UTM grid not always is a complete help. For example Where is the place
> of next map: http://dynacorgold.com/en/casaden-overview-map-casaden.php
>   ?  You have 60 options if you don't know what UTM zone is it.
>
> If this is not sufficient for you... well I'll be wrong but I find useful
> this kind of maps.
>
> Thanks for the dissertation
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
>
> 2013/4/16 
>
>> Dear Carlos,
>>
>> I understand that you think the combination is useful, but my point is
>> actually that the scale bar is NOT useful because it is plain wrong, it
>> does not even approximate distances in many places in the map! Try
>> wrapping you head around the fact that the North Pole (a single point of
>> length 0 km) is actually shown as a line of the same length as the equator
>> (40075 km), and you see how wrong your "approximate" distances can be!
>>
>>
>> And you do not answer my question: why not use UTM or another projection
>> to start with? Latlon SEEMS simple, but many casual users fail to
>> understand that they are actually looking at angles from the center of a
>> Globe, plotted as if they are XY-coordinates on plain.
>>
>>
>> And do not worry, your english is fine!
>>
>> Barend
>>
>> On 15-04-13 22:17, "Carlos Cerdán"  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2013/4/15 
>> >
>> >Hi there,
>> >
>> >I appreciate the clever tip for having a km scale bar on a lat-long maop,
>> >but as a cartogra[her I must protest, because the scale bar is of course
>> >mostly nonsensical. The differences in distances between the two
>> (mercator
>> >projected UTM and non-projected degrees) can potentially be huge. The
>> >scale bar therefore cant be grossly wrong...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Ajá.. As a simple user I find useful a scale bar to measure approximate
>> >distances on a lat-long map.
>> >
>> >If you have your map in UTM, why not print that one with the proper scale
>> >bar? The question to the original poster therefore would be: why do you
>> >feel the need to have a map in degrees, why not use one that is projected
>> >and where km is the proper scale-bar...?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >In the same sense: If you want  to show the location of a place on Earth
>> >to not GIS skills people, Lat-Long is useful for a first reading location
>> >and scale bar to measure approximate distances ... so Why no use that
>> >combination?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Developers please fix an issue (Correct me if it's not an issue):
>> >when you have two or more maps in a compositor and the scale bar is
>> >related to map 1 (or more), and you close your file, next time you open
>> >it, scale bar is related to Map 0 and you have to select Map 1 again.
>> >(QGIS 1.8 - Ubuntu 12.04).
>> >
>> >
>> >Carlos Cerdán
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >PD Sorry if my English is bad.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to display a scale bar in km on a map in degrees?

2013-04-16 Thread Carlos Cerdán
Hi Barend:

You're right, Lat-long maps are just a plane representation of another
representation of Earth as an ellipsoid and fails on poles.

   > why not use UTM or another projection to start with?

Because some times we need simple maps, for example touristic maps of small
areas where you can forgot the ellipsoid and take Earth as plane. Examples
here:

- http://www.rumbosonline.com/images/issue13/13-64-map.jpg
-
http://www.kuelapadventure.com/spanish/index.php/tips-de-viajero/mapa-turistico-chachapoyas

A Lat-long grid would be useful to locate any place of these maps in Google
Earth but it's missed on both of them.

An UTM grid not always is a complete help. For example Where is the place
of next map: http://dynacorgold.com/en/casaden-overview-map-casaden.php
?  You have 60 options if you don't know what UTM zone is it.

If this is not sufficient for you... well I'll be wrong but I find useful
this kind of maps.

Thanks for the dissertation

Carlos




2013/4/16 

> Dear Carlos,
>
> I understand that you think the combination is useful, but my point is
> actually that the scale bar is NOT useful because it is plain wrong, it
> does not even approximate distances in many places in the map! Try
> wrapping you head around the fact that the North Pole (a single point of
> length 0 km) is actually shown as a line of the same length as the equator
> (40075 km), and you see how wrong your "approximate" distances can be!
>
>
> And you do not answer my question: why not use UTM or another projection
> to start with? Latlon SEEMS simple, but many casual users fail to
> understand that they are actually looking at angles from the center of a
> Globe, plotted as if they are XY-coordinates on plain.
>
>
> And do not worry, your english is fine!
>
> Barend
>
> On 15-04-13 22:17, "Carlos Cerdán"  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >2013/4/15 
> >
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I appreciate the clever tip for having a km scale bar on a lat-long maop,
> >but as a cartogra[her I must protest, because the scale bar is of course
> >mostly nonsensical. The differences in distances between the two (mercator
> >projected UTM and non-projected degrees) can potentially be huge. The
> >scale bar therefore cant be grossly wrong...
> >
> >
> >
> >Ajá.. As a simple user I find useful a scale bar to measure approximate
> >distances on a lat-long map.
> >
> >If you have your map in UTM, why not print that one with the proper scale
> >bar? The question to the original poster therefore would be: why do you
> >feel the need to have a map in degrees, why not use one that is projected
> >and where km is the proper scale-bar...?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >In the same sense: If you want  to show the location of a place on Earth
> >to not GIS skills people, Lat-Long is useful for a first reading location
> >and scale bar to measure approximate distances ... so Why no use that
> >combination?
> >
> >
> >
> >Developers please fix an issue (Correct me if it's not an issue):
> >when you have two or more maps in a compositor and the scale bar is
> >related to map 1 (or more), and you close your file, next time you open
> >it, scale bar is related to Map 0 and you have to select Map 1 again.
> >(QGIS 1.8 - Ubuntu 12.04).
> >
> >
> >Carlos Cerdán
> >
> >
> >
> >PD Sorry if my English is bad.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Qgis-user] [Qgis-community-team] Website about the activities at the developer meeting in Valmiera

2013-04-16 Thread Tim Sutton
Thanks so much for that Otto!

Regards

Tim


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Otto Dassau  wrote:

> Dear Community,
>
> as you can see from the comments on the mailing lists, the ninth hackfest
> in
> Valmiera was a great success and very well organized by the latvian team
> from SuGIS - Maris Nartiss, Peteris Bruns and Raitis Berzins.
>
> On behalf of the PSC I would like to thank all participants, organizers,
> sponsors and donors who spent their time, energy and money to make QGIS
> again a little better.
>
> I added a webpage with information and further links about the people,
> their
> activities and photos from the Valmiera event here:
>
> http://www.qgis.org/en/developer-meetings/valmiera-42013.html
>
> Kind Regards
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[Qgis-user] Website about the activities at the developer meeting in Valmiera

2013-04-16 Thread Otto Dassau
Dear Community,

as you can see from the comments on the mailing lists, the ninth hackfest in
Valmiera was a great success and very well organized by the latvian team
from SuGIS - Maris Nartiss, Peteris Bruns and Raitis Berzins. 

On behalf of the PSC I would like to thank all participants, organizers,
sponsors and donors who spent their time, energy and money to make QGIS
again a little better. 

I added a webpage with information and further links about the people, their
activities and photos from the Valmiera event here:

http://www.qgis.org/en/developer-meetings/valmiera-42013.html

Kind Regards
Otto
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Re: [Qgis-user] broken link to 1.8 pdf manual

2013-04-16 Thread Otto Dassau
Hi,

Am Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:00:16 +0200
schrieb Goyo :

> 2013/4/15 Jason Paul Joines 
> 
> > Does anyone know where I can find the pdf version of QGIS 1.8
> > manual?  The link at http://www.qgis.org/en/documentation/manuals.html
> > is broken.
> >
> 
> http://docs.qgis.org/1.8/pdf/
> 
> The website is being restructured so this might change.
> 
> Goyo

I fixed the link on the website.

http://docs.qgis.org/1.8 => leads to 1.8 html documentation
http://docs.qgis.org/1.8/pdf/ => leads to 1.8 pdf documentation

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to display a scale bar in km on a map in degrees?

2013-04-16 Thread b.j.kobben
Dear Carlos, 

I understand that you think the combination is useful, but my point is
actually that the scale bar is NOT useful because it is plain wrong, it
does not even approximate distances in many places in the map! Try
wrapping you head around the fact that the North Pole (a single point of
length 0 km) is actually shown as a line of the same length as the equator
(40075 km), and you see how wrong your "approximate" distances can be!


And you do not answer my question: why not use UTM or another projection
to start with? Latlon SEEMS simple, but many casual users fail to
understand that they are actually looking at angles from the center of a
Globe, plotted as if they are XY-coordinates on plain.


And do not worry, your english is fine!

Barend

On 15-04-13 22:17, "Carlos Cerdán"  wrote:

>
>
>
>2013/4/15 
>
>Hi there,
>
>I appreciate the clever tip for having a km scale bar on a lat-long maop,
>but as a cartogra[her I must protest, because the scale bar is of course
>mostly nonsensical. The differences in distances between the two (mercator
>projected UTM and non-projected degrees) can potentially be huge. The
>scale bar therefore cant be grossly wrong...
>
>
>
>Ajá.. As a simple user I find useful a scale bar to measure approximate
>distances on a lat-long map.
>
>If you have your map in UTM, why not print that one with the proper scale
>bar? The question to the original poster therefore would be: why do you
>feel the need to have a map in degrees, why not use one that is projected
>and where km is the proper scale-bar...?
>
>
>
>
>In the same sense: If you want  to show the location of a place on Earth
>to not GIS skills people, Lat-Long is useful for a first reading location
>and scale bar to measure approximate distances ... so Why no use that
>combination?
>
>
>
>Developers please fix an issue (Correct me if it's not an issue):
>when you have two or more maps in a compositor and the scale bar is
>related to map 1 (or more), and you close your file, next time you open
>it, scale bar is related to Map 0 and you have to select Map 1 again.
>(QGIS 1.8 - Ubuntu 12.04).
>
>
>Carlos Cerdán
>
>
>
>PD Sorry if my English is bad.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Qgis-user] broken link to 1.8 pdf manual

2013-04-16 Thread Goyo
2013/4/15 Jason Paul Joines 

> Does anyone know where I can find the pdf version of QGIS 1.8
> manual?  The link at http://www.qgis.org/en/documentation/manuals.html
> is broken.
>

http://docs.qgis.org/1.8/pdf/

The website is being restructured so this might change.

Goyo


>
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