Re: [Qgis-user] unable to install QGIS with OSGEO4W on windows 7

[Antongeo76]

Reginald wrote
> Hi,
> 
> When trying to install QGIS with OSGEO4W64 installer on the PC of a fellow
> worker, everytime I get an error:
> crssync.exe : zip.dll is missing. you need to install it again
> Then when restarting and trying to run QGIS I get a dialogue that says: 
> you need to check qgis-bin.env and correct invalid entries or something
> like
> that How can I completely remove qgis on a windows 7 pc and install qgis
> 3?
> I uninstalled qgis with software panel from windows.
> Then I deleted the OSGEO4W folder.
> Then I tried deleting qgis instances in regedit but that failed.
> Is there a way to copy the zip.dll from somewhere and paste it in the
> right
> place?
> Why isn't OSGEO4W installer setting the right env variables?
> You see, a lot of questions, but QGIS is a big program and has a lot of
> possibilities ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Reginald,

please read this post where there are some solutions

regards



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[Qgis-user] Can anyone confirm corrupted QGS-Files?

[Kai Borgolte]

Hello,

today it's the second time my coworker worked on a corrupt QGS file.
Some content like layouts, symbology and labelling are not complete.
Last time he continued to work on the file, and the file size was a
quarter from qgs~. Today he quit QGIS without saving and the file seems
OK, so the corruption seems to introduce at load time.

He is using QGIS 3.2.2 on Windows10.

Does someone else see these problems?
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Re: [Qgis-user] Convertir líneas a Poligono

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha]

Hi César,

We use English in this list.

Please send us a screenshot or something to see the initial lines
(input) and the generated polygon (output), to see how it is deformed.

Regards,

Jorge

Às 20:36 de 18/10/18, César Fernández escreveu:
>  
> 
> Hola, estoy queriendo convertir líneas a polígonos con entidades que he
> conformado de dos capas en una y luego las uno entre si. Al transformar
> de líneas a polígonos el polígono se deforma.
> 
>  
> 
> Agradezco la ayuda
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> César Fernández C.
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> ceferc...@hotmail.com
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Re: [Qgis-user] Convertir líneas a Poligono (César Fernández)

[Ivan Santiago]

saludos


>Hola, estoy queriendo convertir líneas a polígonos con entidades que he 
>conformado de >dos capas en una y luego las uno entre si. Al transformar de 
>líneas a polígonos el >polígono se deforma.
>
>Agradezco la ayuda



Usas el mismo sistema de referencia espacial para las capas?

Cuál es el sistema de referencia?


Es lat-long?

Si es así, es posible que ese sea el problema


...Recuerda que este list es en inglés...


Do you use the same CRS?

Are you using lat-long coordinates?





Iván Santiago
GIS Specialist
Information Technologies
PR Office of Management and Budget
http://gis.pr.gov/


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[Qgis-user] (no subject)

[Amila Bajic]

Hi everybody,

I'm working as a GIS consultant and my company and team are hiring for some
new clients. We are almost using QGIS, that why I'm asking here. Another
reason why I ask is because I read everyday your questions (learn a lot)
and I guess I could find somene's help here. If anyone have some idea,
please let me know. You can also send me private e-mail.

Thank you and sorry for bothering you all!!
Best regards,
Amila
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Re: [Qgis-user] (no subject)

[nwastra]

...and what is the question?

N

> On 19 Oct 2018, at 10:20 pm, Amila Bajic  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody, 
> 
> I'm working as a GIS consultant and my company and team are hiring for some 
> new clients. We are almost using QGIS, that why I'm asking here. Another 
> reason why I ask is because I read everyday your questions (learn a lot) and 
> I guess I could find somene's help here. If anyone have some idea, please let 
> me know. You can also send me private e-mail.
> 
> Thank you and sorry for bothering you all!!
> Best regards, 
> Amila
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[Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi,

This is a public rant. I find it extremely offensive to read comments like 
“this is the English list” to people who write to this list in any other 
language than English.  While resent comments were also accompanied by genuine 
offers to help (therefore I consider that authors probably had only good 
intentions), please keep in mind that many people who use this list come from 
countries where comments like “speak English”  is often the equivalent to 
“speak white, speak American or speak canadien in my case”.   I realize this is 
not the case in every country but please be careful about this type of 
comments.  OpenSource community is about reaching out and helping others, not 
creating barriers.

If you disagree, please note that the QGIS site refers to this list as the “The 
MAIN list for user questions: used for discussion of QGIS in general, as well 
as specific questions regarding its installation and use.”  The MAIN list... 
not the ENGLISH list. This message is also repeated in other languages as can 
be seen here.
https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#
https://www.qgis.org/es/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#

If you are still offended, please keep in mind that QGIS is primarily, to my 
knowledge, a European effort made by people who have German, Austrio-German, 
Spanish, French, Italian and other as their first language and that they are 
developing in English, their second, third or forth language.  You should be 
grateful for their efforts to reach out the international community in a 
language spoken a cross the world.

Nicolas Cadieux








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Re: [Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Nicolas,

On Fri, 19. Oct 2018 at 09:07:36 -0400, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
> This is a public rant.  I find it extremely offensive to read comments like
> “this is the English list” to people who write to this list in any other
> language than English.

I don't.  This is the main user list and it's in English - because that's the
language everyone here understands - if you don't understand English, there's
not much point subscribing in the first place.

Using a language other than that excludes the majority of the subscribers from
benefiting from what is being said and from contributing to the discussion.

And I don't find a response that clarifies this and also points to a better
suited list offensive either.  Maybe even with a English translation if the
original posting seems relevant to all.


> If you disagree, please note that the QGIS site refers to this list as the
> “The MAIN list for user questions: used for discussion of QGIS in general, as
> well as specific questions regarding its installation and use.”  The MAIN
> list... not the ENGLISH list. This message is also repeated in other
> languages as can be seen here.

> https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#
> https://www.qgis.org/es/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#

Hm, that might be a translation issue.  We used to point to local lists there
(eg. fossgis-talk-li...@fossgis.de for German) - but that's apparently
meanwhile gone.

 
> If you are still offended, please keep in mind that QGIS is primarily, to my
> knowledge, a European effort made by people who have German, Austrio-German,
> Spanish, French, Italian and other as their first language and that they are
> developing in English, their second, third or forth language.  You should be
> grateful for their efforts to reach out the international community in a
> language spoken a cross the world.

I don't get that point.   Developer's post in English here.  Developer's - at
least I do - also prefer others to post in English here.  And if somebody
posted in German, I'd probably point the person off-list to the above list.


Jürgen

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[Qgis-user] GPS Live Tracking Symbol Editing

[malhar]

Hello,

My name is Malhar and I am currently using QGIS for its live GPS tracking
feature. I have two questions regarding this:

1) How would I be able to change the symbol of a cross within a circle to
that of an aircraft?

2) Is it possible to show only the previous 10 minutes of the aircraft
history trail when live tracking, but still have the entire trail shown
during post processing?

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Malhar
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Re: [Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi Jürgen,

You are not offended because you have probably never been repeatedly 
told not to speak German in Germany.  For people who do not live in a 
country where this is often the case, I understand they cannot relate to 
what I am stating.  My rant is culturally - country specific and 
perhaps, not appropriate for this forum.  I acknowledge this but I am 
tying to make people aware of a situation that can really tick people off.


I understand this list is primarily used by people who understand 
english and that this facilitates communication.  I usually publish in 
English, or write on this list in English for this very same reason.   I 
agree that pointing people to language specific list can help those who 
have a poor understanding, or no understanding of English.  I have done 
that in the past and have also translated messages from French or 
Spanish to English when I see unilingual posts, even when I don't know 
the answers to the questions. This way they can still get helped and 
others can benefit from the post as you point out. Unfortunately, the 
other lists that I have visited are not as dynamic as this one... but 
that's another story.


You don't get my last point because, in your case (and in the case of 
most developers) you have _chosen_ to communicate in English for all the 
good reasons and are not regularly mocked at when using your mother 
language in public.  You are not from a country where you are expected 
to speak in English and to make that effort while anglophones (in my 
case) are not making any efforts to communicate with you in French.  
While this is thankfully changing in Canada as more and more anglophones 
learn French and make the efforts (and are actually starting to realize 
the importance of learning more than just one language), this is not the 
case in other countries like the US where Spanish speaking people are 
often the target of outright racism and regularly told "this is an 
English speaking country".


I too appreciate the use of English in this list, specially when the 
writer is German, Austrian or from Iceland because Google translation 
just does not cut it when talking in technical terms. I am simply 
stating that this is a courtesy to be appreciated and not to be taken 
for granted.  While Europeans regularly speak many languages, this is a 
richness not appreciated in many parts of North America.


Yours truly,

Nicolas Cadieux


On 2018-10-19 10:22 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Hi Nicolas,

On Fri, 19. Oct 2018 at 09:07:36 -0400, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:

This is a public rant.  I find it extremely offensive to read comments like
“this is the English list” to people who write to this list in any other
language than English.

I don't.  This is the main user list and it's in English - because that's the
language everyone here understands - if you don't understand English, there's
not much point subscribing in the first place.

Using a language other than that excludes the majority of the subscribers from
benefiting from what is being said and from contributing to the discussion.

And I don't find a response that clarifies this and also points to a better
suited list offensive either.  Maybe even with a English translation if the
original posting seems relevant to all.



If you disagree, please note that the QGIS site refers to this list as the
“The MAIN list for user questions: used for discussion of QGIS in general, as
well as specific questions regarding its installation and use.”  The MAIN
list... not the ENGLISH list. This message is also repeated in other
languages as can be seen here.
https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#
https://www.qgis.org/es/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#

Hm, that might be a translation issue.  We used to point to local lists there
(eg. fossgis-talk-li...@fossgis.de for German) - but that's apparently
meanwhile gone.If you are still offended, please keep in mind that QGIS is 
primarily, to my
knowledge, a European effort made by people who have German, Austrio-German,
Spanish, French, Italian and other as their first language and that they are
developing in English, their second, third or forth language.  You should be
grateful for their efforts to reach out the international community in a
language spoken a cross the world.
I don't get that point.   Developer's post in English here.  Developer's - at
least I do - also prefer others to post in English here.  And if somebody
posted in German, I'd probably point the person off-list to the above list.


Jürgen



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Re: [Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Alex M]

Nicolas,

I think you raise a valid points, and that the end of the day we need to
be as welcoming as possible to the entire community. As a reminder for
some https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/

The question is how do we best address the issue? The list of alternate
language lists is good but not a complete solution. We should absolutely
offer those when responding to a non-english post, and perhaps an
explanation that English is the most common language on the list because
it's comprehended by the most subscribers, so it is most likely to get
you the most help. A lot of assumptions in that.

As a native English speaker, I actually do attempt to figure out the
posts in other languages I have some familiarity with, and try to reply
with a poorly translated response & the english response, along with a
link to a language specific list if I know one as an alternative.

Sounds like we do need to fix the website to better direct people to
other language lists if they prefer.

Any else have suggestions on how to improve this?

Thanks,
Alex


On 10/19/18 08:54, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
> 
> You are not offended because you have probably never been repeatedly
> told not to speak German in Germany.  For people who do not live in a
> country where this is often the case, I understand they cannot relate to
> what I am stating.  My rant is culturally - country specific and
> perhaps, not appropriate for this forum.  I acknowledge this but I am
> tying to make people aware of a situation that can really tick people off.
> 
> I understand this list is primarily used by people who understand
> english and that this facilitates communication.  I usually publish in
> English, or write on this list in English for this very same reason.   I
> agree that pointing people to language specific list can help those who
> have a poor understanding, or no understanding of English.  I have done
> that in the past and have also translated messages from French or
> Spanish to English when I see unilingual posts, even when I don't know
> the answers to the questions. This way they can still get helped and
> others can benefit from the post as you point out. Unfortunately, the
> other lists that I have visited are not as dynamic as this one... but
> that's another story.
> 
> You don't get my last point because, in your case (and in the case of
> most developers) you have _chosen_ to communicate in English for all the
> good reasons and are not regularly mocked at when using your mother
> language in public.  You are not from a country where you are expected
> to speak in English and to make that effort while anglophones (in my
> case) are not making any efforts to communicate with you in French. 
> While this is thankfully changing in Canada as more and more anglophones
> learn French and make the efforts (and are actually starting to realize
> the importance of learning more than just one language), this is not the
> case in other countries like the US where Spanish speaking people are
> often the target of outright racism and regularly told "this is an
> English speaking country".
> 
> I too appreciate the use of English in this list, specially when the
> writer is German, Austrian or from Iceland because Google translation
> just does not cut it when talking in technical terms. I am simply
> stating that this is a courtesy to be appreciated and not to be taken
> for granted.  While Europeans regularly speak many languages, this is a
> richness not appreciated in many parts of North America.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Nicolas Cadieux
> 
> 
> On 2018-10-19 10:22 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>> Hi Nicolas,
>>
>> On Fri, 19. Oct 2018 at 09:07:36 -0400, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
>>> This is a public rant.  I find it extremely offensive to read
>>> comments like
>>> “this is the English list” to people who write to this list in any other
>>> language than English.
>> I don't.  This is the main user list and it's in English - because
>> that's the
>> language everyone here understands - if you don't understand English,
>> there's
>> not much point subscribing in the first place.
>>
>> Using a language other than that excludes the majority of the
>> subscribers from
>> benefiting from what is being said and from contributing to the
>> discussion.
>>
>> And I don't find a response that clarifies this and also points to a
>> better
>> suited list offensive either.  Maybe even with a English translation
>> if the
>> original posting seems relevant to all.
> 
>>> If you disagree, please note that the QGIS site refers to this list
>>> as the
>>> “The MAIN list for user questions: used for discussion of QGIS in
>>> general, as
>>> well as specific questions regarding its installation and use.”  The
>>> MAIN
>>> list... not the ENGLISH list. This message is also repeated in other
>>> languages as can be seen here.
>>> https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#
>>> https://www.qgis.org/es/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#

Re: [Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Tyler Veinot]

I suggest the solution of if you are having trouble understanding someone
do to a language barrier just say so and/or ask for help. The people here,
for the most part, are friendly and understanding. I cannot imagine someone
not clarifying a communication, or parts there of, for someone like me, who
only speaks a single language. I use google translate very often to
translate plugin directions and documentation, and if that doesn't work I
can ask the list for help.
That is how I see it anyway


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:06 PM Alex M  wrote:

> Nicolas,
>
> I think you raise a valid points, and that the end of the day we need to
> be as welcoming as possible to the entire community. As a reminder for
> some https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/
>
> The question is how do we best address the issue? The list of alternate
> language lists is good but not a complete solution. We should absolutely
> offer those when responding to a non-english post, and perhaps an
> explanation that English is the most common language on the list because
> it's comprehended by the most subscribers, so it is most likely to get
> you the most help. A lot of assumptions in that.
>
> As a native English speaker, I actually do attempt to figure out the
> posts in other languages I have some familiarity with, and try to reply
> with a poorly translated response & the english response, along with a
> link to a language specific list if I know one as an alternative.
>
> Sounds like we do need to fix the website to better direct people to
> other language lists if they prefer.
>
> Any else have suggestions on how to improve this?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>
> On 10/19/18 08:54, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
> > Hi Jürgen,
> >
> > You are not offended because you have probably never been repeatedly
> > told not to speak German in Germany.  For people who do not live in a
> > country where this is often the case, I understand they cannot relate to
> > what I am stating.  My rant is culturally - country specific and
> > perhaps, not appropriate for this forum.  I acknowledge this but I am
> > tying to make people aware of a situation that can really tick people
> off.
> >
> > I understand this list is primarily used by people who understand
> > english and that this facilitates communication.  I usually publish in
> > English, or write on this list in English for this very same reason.   I
> > agree that pointing people to language specific list can help those who
> > have a poor understanding, or no understanding of English.  I have done
> > that in the past and have also translated messages from French or
> > Spanish to English when I see unilingual posts, even when I don't know
> > the answers to the questions. This way they can still get helped and
> > others can benefit from the post as you point out. Unfortunately, the
> > other lists that I have visited are not as dynamic as this one... but
> > that's another story.
> >
> > You don't get my last point because, in your case (and in the case of
> > most developers) you have _chosen_ to communicate in English for all the
> > good reasons and are not regularly mocked at when using your mother
> > language in public.  You are not from a country where you are expected
> > to speak in English and to make that effort while anglophones (in my
> > case) are not making any efforts to communicate with you in French.
> > While this is thankfully changing in Canada as more and more anglophones
> > learn French and make the efforts (and are actually starting to realize
> > the importance of learning more than just one language), this is not the
> > case in other countries like the US where Spanish speaking people are
> > often the target of outright racism and regularly told "this is an
> > English speaking country".
> >
> > I too appreciate the use of English in this list, specially when the
> > writer is German, Austrian or from Iceland because Google translation
> > just does not cut it when talking in technical terms. I am simply
> > stating that this is a courtesy to be appreciated and not to be taken
> > for granted.  While Europeans regularly speak many languages, this is a
> > richness not appreciated in many parts of North America.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> > Nicolas Cadieux
> >
> >
> > On 2018-10-19 10:22 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> >> Hi Nicolas,
> >>
> >> On Fri, 19. Oct 2018 at 09:07:36 -0400, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
> >>> This is a public rant.  I find it extremely offensive to read
> >>> comments like
> >>> “this is the English list” to people who write to this list in any
> other
> >>> language than English.
> >> I don't.  This is the main user list and it's in English - because
> >> that's the
> >> language everyone here understands - if you don't understand English,
> >> there's
> >> not much point subscribing in the first place.
> >>
> >> Using a language other than that excludes the majority of the
> >> subscribers from
> >> benefiting from what is being said and from contributing to th

Re: [Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Tyler Veinot]

Don't get me wrong I understand how this can be offensive and/or
frustrating for both sides; but I if you just be patient and work through
the communication barrier more problems will be solved.
Ok, now I am done...


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:51 PM Tyler Veinot  wrote:

> I suggest the solution of if you are having trouble understanding someone
> do to a language barrier just say so and/or ask for help. The people here,
> for the most part, are friendly and understanding. I cannot imagine someone
> not clarifying a communication, or parts there of, for someone like me, who
> only speaks a single language. I use google translate very often to
> translate plugin directions and documentation, and if that doesn't work I
> can ask the list for help.
> That is how I see it anyway
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:06 PM Alex M  wrote:
>
>> Nicolas,
>>
>> I think you raise a valid points, and that the end of the day we need to
>> be as welcoming as possible to the entire community. As a reminder for
>> some https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/
>>
>> The question is how do we best address the issue? The list of alternate
>> language lists is good but not a complete solution. We should absolutely
>> offer those when responding to a non-english post, and perhaps an
>> explanation that English is the most common language on the list because
>> it's comprehended by the most subscribers, so it is most likely to get
>> you the most help. A lot of assumptions in that.
>>
>> As a native English speaker, I actually do attempt to figure out the
>> posts in other languages I have some familiarity with, and try to reply
>> with a poorly translated response & the english response, along with a
>> link to a language specific list if I know one as an alternative.
>>
>> Sounds like we do need to fix the website to better direct people to
>> other language lists if they prefer.
>>
>> Any else have suggestions on how to improve this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 10/19/18 08:54, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
>> > Hi Jürgen,
>> >
>> > You are not offended because you have probably never been repeatedly
>> > told not to speak German in Germany.  For people who do not live in a
>> > country where this is often the case, I understand they cannot relate to
>> > what I am stating.  My rant is culturally - country specific and
>> > perhaps, not appropriate for this forum.  I acknowledge this but I am
>> > tying to make people aware of a situation that can really tick people
>> off.
>> >
>> > I understand this list is primarily used by people who understand
>> > english and that this facilitates communication.  I usually publish in
>> > English, or write on this list in English for this very same reason.   I
>> > agree that pointing people to language specific list can help those who
>> > have a poor understanding, or no understanding of English.  I have done
>> > that in the past and have also translated messages from French or
>> > Spanish to English when I see unilingual posts, even when I don't know
>> > the answers to the questions. This way they can still get helped and
>> > others can benefit from the post as you point out. Unfortunately, the
>> > other lists that I have visited are not as dynamic as this one... but
>> > that's another story.
>> >
>> > You don't get my last point because, in your case (and in the case of
>> > most developers) you have _chosen_ to communicate in English for all the
>> > good reasons and are not regularly mocked at when using your mother
>> > language in public.  You are not from a country where you are expected
>> > to speak in English and to make that effort while anglophones (in my
>> > case) are not making any efforts to communicate with you in French.
>> > While this is thankfully changing in Canada as more and more anglophones
>> > learn French and make the efforts (and are actually starting to realize
>> > the importance of learning more than just one language), this is not the
>> > case in other countries like the US where Spanish speaking people are
>> > often the target of outright racism and regularly told "this is an
>> > English speaking country".
>> >
>> > I too appreciate the use of English in this list, specially when the
>> > writer is German, Austrian or from Iceland because Google translation
>> > just does not cut it when talking in technical terms. I am simply
>> > stating that this is a courtesy to be appreciated and not to be taken
>> > for granted.  While Europeans regularly speak many languages, this is a
>> > richness not appreciated in many parts of North America.
>> >
>> > Yours truly,
>> >
>> > Nicolas Cadieux
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2018-10-19 10:22 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>> >> Hi Nicolas,
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 19. Oct 2018 at 09:07:36 -0400, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
>> >>> This is a public rant.  I find it extremely offensive to read
>> >>> comments like
>> >>> “this is the English list” to people who write to this list in any
>> other
>> >>> language than English.
>> >> I don'

Re: [Qgis-user] English only list or Main list?

[Maria Shinoto]

Hi, 

I am not an English native speaker as well, and I am living in a country that 
does not understand my mother language. So I think that I understand the 
feelings of both "main counterparts", Nicolas Cadieux and Jürgen E. Fischer -- 
perhaps. 

It is sometimes hard to work with expectations and to overcome own 
shortcomings; so writing in English may be difficult in some cases. And it is 
certainly not an offence.  

To me, the discussions feels very kind from all sides: Everybody is trying to 
do the best and to understand the other side. 

Thanks a lot to those who try to help those who cannot adress their problem in 
English, and on the other side thanks to those who try to be understood by 
forcing themselves to write in the language that is most widely spoken, which 
is English. 

I am happy with the list as it works right now, multilingual but mainly 
English, and I hope I can get as much from it as I did until now -- and 
sometime in the future, can contribute as well. 

Best, 
Maria


> Am 2018-10-20 um 02:54 schrieb Tyler Veinot :
> 
> Don't get me wrong I understand how this can be offensive and/or frustrating 
> for both sides; but I if you just be patient and work through the 
> communication barrier more problems will be solved.
> Ok, now I am done...
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:51 PM Tyler Veinot  > wrote:
> I suggest the solution of if you are having trouble understanding someone do 
> to a language barrier just say so and/or ask for help. The people here, for 
> the most part, are friendly and understanding. I cannot imagine someone not 
> clarifying a communication, or parts there of, for someone like me, who only 
> speaks a single language. I use google translate very often to translate 
> plugin directions and documentation, and if that doesn't work I can ask the 
> list for help.
> That is how I see it anyway
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:06 PM Alex M  > wrote:
> Nicolas,
> 
> I think you raise a valid points, and that the end of the day we need to
> be as welcoming as possible to the entire community. As a reminder for
> some https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/ 
> 
> 
> The question is how do we best address the issue? The list of alternate
> language lists is good but not a complete solution. We should absolutely
> offer those when responding to a non-english post, and perhaps an
> explanation that English is the most common language on the list because
> it's comprehended by the most subscribers, so it is most likely to get
> you the most help. A lot of assumptions in that.
> 
> As a native English speaker, I actually do attempt to figure out the
> posts in other languages I have some familiarity with, and try to reply
> with a poorly translated response & the english response, along with a
> link to a language specific list if I know one as an alternative.
> 
> Sounds like we do need to fix the website to better direct people to
> other language lists if they prefer.
> 
> Any else have suggestions on how to improve this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> 
> 
> On 10/19/18 08:54, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:
> > Hi Jürgen,
> > 
> > You are not offended because you have probably never been repeatedly
> > told not to speak German in Germany.  For people who do not live in a
> > country where this is often the case, I understand they cannot relate to
> > what I am stating.  My rant is culturally - country specific and
> > perhaps, not appropriate for this forum.  I acknowledge this but I am
> > tying to make people aware of a situation that can really tick people off.
> > 
> > I understand this list is primarily used by people who understand
> > english and that this facilitates communication.  I usually publish in
> > English, or write on this list in English for this very same reason.   I
> > agree that pointing people to language specific list can help those who
> > have a poor understanding, or no understanding of English.  I have done
> > that in the past and have also translated messages from French or
> > Spanish to English when I see unilingual posts, even when I don't know
> > the answers to the questions. This way they can still get helped and
> > others can benefit from the post as you point out. Unfortunately, the
> > other lists that I have visited are not as dynamic as this one... but
> > that's another story.
> > 
> > You don't get my last point because, in your case (and in the case of
> > most developers) you have _chosen_ to communicate in English for all the
> > good reasons and are not regularly mocked at when using your mother
> > language in public.  You are not from a country where you are expected
> > to speak in English and to make that effort while anglophones (in my
> > case) are not making any efforts to communicate with you in French. 
> > While this is thankfully changing in Canada as more and more anglophones
> > learn French and make the efforts (and