Re: [Qgis-user] Do GPX files contain CRS information?

2021-03-17 Thread Garth Fletcher

Many many thanks to Nicolas Cadieux for that research!
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Re: [Qgis-user] Do GPX files contain CRS information?

2021-03-17 Thread Michael Dufty
Since GPX (and KML) always use WGS84, I’ve been meaning to put in a feature 
request for QGIS to automatically select this when exporting to those formats.  
Currently it’s quite an unfriendly experience to export to these formats from 
QGIS as there are lots of options, many of which (like choosing an unsuitable 
CRS) will give you a file that really doesn’t work.

It does look like someone else already did this 7 years ago and it is on the 
“nice to have list”

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/17081

Michael Dufty

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Re: [Qgis-user] Selecting profiles

2021-03-17 Thread Alexandre Neto
Hi Ed,

The only way I think of is by creating a shortcut that launches QGIS using
the command line tools. Using this, you can specify which profile to use
and which project:

https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/qgis_configuration.html#command-line-and-environment-variables

Best regards,

Alexandre Neto
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:44 PM Ed Hawkins  wrote:

> I have created 4 profiles a reader qith no editing capabilities and 3
> editors. I want to force someone opening a project to select a
> user profile. Is that possible and if so how?
> Ed Hawkins
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Re: [Qgis-user] Do GPX files contain CRS information?

2021-03-17 Thread Stewart Holt
Thank you very much for this research. I am surprised that we have not met
in that rabbit hole. I first got interested in this when trying to see how
close I could match the coordinates obtained with an hour of data
collection using my SXblue II L1 GNSS WAAS unit to a USGS monument on a
nearby mountain top. With guidance from a USGS specialist on datum and
epoch conversion, the result was about 5.5 inches which I was very
happy with for my purposes. That was in 2017. In 2020, having plenty of
time to obsess over unimportant things, I fell back in that same rabbit
hole as I had more reason to correctly set the CRS on WAAS coordinates.

I will read your references to try to figure out whether WAAS is ITRF2008
or 2014. But since the difference is millimeters, it is not really
important. My hope is to have a good CRS defined for SBAS in QGIS and that
null transforms are not used between CRS which are "just" a meter
different. When I save WAAS data as ITRF2008 (I can't remember which EPSG),
QGIS 3.16 thinks the datum is invalid. 2014 seems to be OK.

Stewart

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:14 PM Nicolas Cadieux 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This last question brought me down a rabbit hole that took me a while to
> find (at least partially).  Of course, this is far away from the original
> question of "Do GPX files contain CRS information?".  The answer to that
> was no.  The datum is WGS84 (in it's most current iteration, or
> WGS84(G1762).  Transformation parameters to and from ITRF have been
> published and can be found
>
>-
>
> https://confluence.qps.nl/qinsy/latest/en/world-geodetic-system-1984-wgs84-182618391.html#id-.WorldGeodeticSystem1984(WGS84)v9.1-WGS84realizations
>- This file contain multiple transformations with sources
>
> https://confluence.qps.nl/qinsy/files/latest/en/182618383/182618384/1/1579182881000/ITRF_Transformation_Parameters.xlsx
>- This contains info on WGS84 and NAD83
>https://mcraymer.github.io/geodesy/pubs/nad83_agu2007spr.pdf
>- https://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/icg/2018/icg13/wgd/wgd_12.pdf
>
> Other question that were raised: What are the other reference frames used
> by the various GNSS services:
>
>- https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117720308292#!
>   - "The TRFs realized by the GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, and BeiDou-2 and
>   BeiDou-3 broadcast ephemerides are the orbital realizations of WGS 84
>   (G1762′), PZ90.11, GTRF19v01, and BDCS respectively."
>   - More info here.
>   https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/Reference_Frames_in_GNSS
>
> This document made a comparison comparison between broadcast reference
> frames and ITRF:
>
>-
>
> http://www.epncb.eu/_newseventslinks/workshops/EPNLACWS_2017/pdf/06_Open_Session/04_Broadcast-Precise.pdf
>   - "Reference frames:
>   •GPS and Galileo broadcast reference frames are aligned with ITRF:
>   translations are less than 0.10 m and rotations are less than 2
>   milli-second of arc
>   •GLONASS M broadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at most
>   0.27 ±0.04 m in Y and maximum rotation is  4 ±2 milli-second of arc 
> about Y.
>   •GLONASS K broadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at most
>   1.06 ±0.17 m in Y and maximum rotation is  19 ±2 milli-second of arc 
> about
>   X.
>   •BeiDoubroadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at most 0.26
>   ±0.18 in X and Y, and maximum rotation is 2 ±1 milli-second of arc 
> about Z."
>
> Then there are questions pertaining to SBAS around the world:
>
>-
>
> https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/techops/navservices/gnss/library/factsheets/media/SBAS_Worldwide_QFact.pdf
>   - It state the various services
>  - Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS)
>  - European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service (EGNOS)
>  - Multi-functional Transport Satellite (MTSAT) Satellite Based
>  Augmentation System (MSAS) (Japan)
>  - GPS Aided Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO) Augmented Navigation
>  (GAGAN) (India)
>  - System of Differential Correction and Monitoring (SDCM) Russia
>  - Korean Augmentation Satellite System (KASS)
>  - BeiDou Satellite Based Augmentation System (BDSBAS)
>   - Also found this
>https://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/2008-WAAS-performance-standard.pdf
>- And this https://www.nstb.tc.faa.gov/
>
> Finally, there was the question of the introduction of new reference
> frames when a SBAS services was used.  I was skeptical of this but you guys
> are right.  Using a WAAS service does introduce a new reference frame as
> the "... GEO satellites do not belong to any satellite positioning service
> (e.g. GPS, GLONASS), ephemeris for those satellites are not externally
> available. Therefore, it is the SBAS that is in charge of providing the
> user with the GEO ephemeris. Keep in mind that all components are expressed
> in ECEF reference 

Re: [Qgis-user] Do GPX files contain CRS information?

2021-03-17 Thread kirk
Thanks for the research Nicolas. I think I will save this for a rainy day or 
when an issue comes up.Kirk SchmidtSent from my Galaxy
 Original message From: Nicolas Cadieux 
 Date: 2021-03-17  7:14 p.m.  (GMT-04:00) To: Greg 
Troxel , stewartbh...@gmail.com Cc: qgis-user 
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Do GPX files contain CRS 
information? 
Hi,
This last question brought me down a rabbit hole that took me a
  while to find (at least partially).  Of course, this is far away
  from the original question of "Do GPX files contain CRS
  information?".  The answer to that was no.  The datum is WGS84 (in
  it's most current iteration, or WGS84(G1762).  Transformation
  parameters to and from ITRF have been published and can be found

  
https://confluence.qps.nl/qinsy/latest/en/world-geodetic-system-1984-wgs84-182618391.html#id-.WorldGeodeticSystem1984(WGS84)v9.1-WGS84realizations
  This file contain multiple transformations with sources
https://confluence.qps.nl/qinsy/files/latest/en/182618383/182618384/1/1579182881000/ITRF_Transformation_Parameters.xlsx
  This contains info on WGS84 and NAD83
https://mcraymer.github.io/geodesy/pubs/nad83_agu2007spr.pdf
  https://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/icg/2018/icg13/wgd/wgd_12.pdf
  

Other question that were raised: What are the other reference
  frames used by the various GNSS services:

  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117720308292#!
  
"The TRFs realized by the GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, and
  BeiDou-2 and BeiDou-3 broadcast ephemerides are the orbital
  realizations of WGS 84 (G1762′), PZ90.11, GTRF19v01, and BDCS
  respectively."
More info here.
  https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/Reference_Frames_in_GNSS

  

This document made a comparison comparison between broadcast
  reference frames and ITRF:

  
http://www.epncb.eu/_newseventslinks/workshops/EPNLACWS_2017/pdf/06_Open_Session/04_Broadcast-Precise.pdf
  
"Reference frames:
  •GPS and Galileo broadcast reference frames are aligned with
  ITRF: translations are less than 0.10 m and rotations are less
  than 2 milli-second of arc
  •GLONASS M broadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at
  most 0.27 ±0.04 m in Y and maximum rotation is  4 ±2
  milli-second of arc about Y.
  •GLONASS K broadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at
  most 1.06 ±0.17 m in Y and maximum rotation is  19 ±2
  milli-second of arc about X.
  •BeiDoubroadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at most
  0.26 ±0.18 in X and Y, and maximum rotation is 2 ±1
  milli-second of arc about Z."
  

Then there are questions pertaining to SBAS around the world:

  
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/techops/navservices/gnss/library/factsheets/media/SBAS_Worldwide_QFact.pdf
  
It state the various services

  Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS)
  European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service (EGNOS)
  Multi-functional Transport Satellite (MTSAT) Satellite
Based Augmentation System (MSAS) (Japan)
  GPS Aided Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO) Augmented
Navigation (GAGAN) (India)
  System of Differential Correction and Monitoring (SDCM)
Russia
  Korean Augmentation Satellite System (KASS)
  BeiDou Satellite Based Augmentation System (BDSBAS)

  
  Also found this
https://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/2008-WAAS-performance-standard.pdf
  And this https://www.nstb.tc.faa.gov/

Finally, there was the question of the introduction of new
  reference frames when a SBAS services was used.  I was skeptical
  of this but you guys are right.  Using a WAAS service does
  introduce a new reference frame as the "... GEO satellites do not
  belong to any satellite positioning service (e.g. GPS, GLONASS),
  ephemeris for those satellites are not externally available.
  Therefore, it is the SBAS that is in charge of providing the user
  with the GEO ephemeris. Keep in mind that all components are
  expressed in ECEF reference coordinates and the time offset is
  with respect to SBAS Network time (SNT)."
(https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/The_EGNOS_SBAS_Message_Format_Explained#SBAS_broadcast_data)
Same information is stated here
  (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117720308292#!)

  "Also, note that the methodology and results reported here are
only valid for direct, real-time unaugmented GNSS applications.
Any form of augmentation including all types of differential
positioning, Assisted GPS, or specialized augmentation, such as
the US 

[Qgis-user] Selecting profiles

2021-03-17 Thread Ed Hawkins
I have created 4 profiles a reader qith no editing capabilities and 3
editors. I want to force someone opening a project to select a
user profile. Is that possible and if so how?
Ed Hawkins
Henderso County E911
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Re: [Qgis-user] Do GPX files contain CRS information?

2021-03-17 Thread Nicolas Cadieux

Hi,

This last question brought me down a rabbit hole that took me a while to 
find (at least partially).  Of course, this is far away from the 
original question of "Do GPX files contain CRS information?".  The 
answer to that was no.  The datum is WGS84 (in it's most current 
iteration, or WGS84(G1762).  Transformation parameters to and from ITRF 
have been published and can be found


 * 
https://confluence.qps.nl/qinsy/latest/en/world-geodetic-system-1984-wgs84-182618391.html#id-.WorldGeodeticSystem1984(WGS84)v9.1-WGS84realizations
 * This file contain multiple transformations with sources
   
https://confluence.qps.nl/qinsy/files/latest/en/182618383/182618384/1/1579182881000/ITRF_Transformation_Parameters.xlsx
 * This contains info on WGS84 and NAD83
   https://mcraymer.github.io/geodesy/pubs/nad83_agu2007spr.pdf
 * https://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/icg/2018/icg13/wgd/wgd_12.pdf

Other question that were raised: What are the other reference frames 
used by the various GNSS services:


 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117720308292#!
 o "The TRFs realized by the GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, and BeiDou-2
   and BeiDou-3 broadcast ephemerides are the orbital realizations
   of WGS 84 (G1762′), PZ90.11, GTRF19v01, and BDCS respectively."
 o More info here.
   https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/Reference_Frames_in_GNSS

This document made a comparison comparison between broadcast reference 
frames and ITRF:


 * 
http://www.epncb.eu/_newseventslinks/workshops/EPNLACWS_2017/pdf/06_Open_Session/04_Broadcast-Precise.pdf
 o "Reference frames:
   •GPS and Galileo broadcast reference frames are aligned with
   ITRF: translations are less than 0.10 m and rotations are less
   than 2 milli-second of arc
   •GLONASS M broadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at
   most 0.27 ±0.04 m in Y and maximum rotation is  4 ±2
   milli-second of arc about Y.
   •GLONASS K broadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at
   most 1.06 ±0.17 m in Y and maximum rotation is  19 ±2
   milli-second of arc about X.
   •BeiDoubroadcast reference frame is offset to ITRF by at most
   0.26 ±0.18 in X and Y, and maximum rotation is 2 ±1 milli-second
   of arc about Z."

Then there are questions pertaining to SBAS around the world:

 * 
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/techops/navservices/gnss/library/factsheets/media/SBAS_Worldwide_QFact.pdf
 o It state the various services
 + Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS)
 + European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service (EGNOS)
 + Multi-functional Transport Satellite (MTSAT) Satellite Based
   Augmentation System (MSAS) (Japan)
 + GPS Aided Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO) Augmented
   Navigation (GAGAN) (India)
 + System of Differential Correction and Monitoring (SDCM) Russia
 + Korean Augmentation Satellite System (KASS)
 + BeiDou Satellite Based Augmentation System (BDSBAS)
 * Also found this
   https://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/2008-WAAS-performance-standard.pdf
 * And this https://www.nstb.tc.faa.gov/

Finally, there was the question of the introduction of new reference 
frames when a SBAS services was used.  I was skeptical of this but you 
guys are right.  Using a WAAS service does introduce a new reference 
frame as the "... GEO satellites do not belong to any satellite 
positioning service (e.g. GPS, GLONASS), ephemeris for those satellites 
are not externally available. Therefore, it is the SBAS that is in 
charge of providing the user with the GEO ephemeris. Keep in mind that 
all components are expressed in ECEF reference coordinates and the time 
offset is with respect to SBAS Network time (SNT)." 
(https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/The_EGNOS_SBAS_Message_Format_Explained#SBAS_broadcast_data)


Same information is stated here 
(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117720308292#!)


 * "Also, note that the methodology and results reported here are only
   valid for direct, real-time unaugmented GNSS applications. Any form
   of augmentation including all types of differential positioning,
   Assisted GPS, or specialized augmentation, such as the US Federal
   Aviation Administration (FAA’s) Wide Area Augmentation System,
   immediately introduce an alternate TRF with its own relationship to
   ITRF2014."

And here 
(https://gssc.esa.int/navipedia/index.php/The_EGNOS_SBAS_Message_Format_Explained#SBAS_broadcast_data)


 *


   "Message type 9

   Message type 9 contains the information about the GEO navigation. As
   GEO satellites do not belong to any satellite positioning service
   (e.g. GPS, GLONASS), ephemeris for those satellites are not
   externally available. Therefore, it is the SBAS that is in charge of
   providing the user with the GEO ephemeris. Keep in mind that all
   components are expressed in ECEF reference 

Re: [Qgis-user] Which older version to use on my older Mac

2021-03-17 Thread raymond ter bogt
Dan,

I am not sure whether OS/QGIS VER should actually matter, but since you are 
running on OSX El Capitan (10.11.6) you might want to at least try to download 
2.18.25-1, since it is a stable LTR version. Versions are reasonably close to 
each other with less then two years between releases of both instantiations.

Raymond

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 17 mrt. 2021 om 19:28 heeft Dan Pratt  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> 
> I need to download and use QGIS to do an introductory project for a class I 
> am taking at the University of Aberdeen. I have a 2008 MacBook Pro that can't 
> handle any operating system later than 10.11.6. I found the archive page with 
> a long list of older versions of the QGIS packages available, but there is no 
> information listed for what the System's requirements are for each of them. 
> What is the latest version of the software that I can run on my system?
> Thanks,
> Dan
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[Qgis-user] Which older version to use on my older Mac

2021-03-17 Thread Dan Pratt
I need to download and use QGIS to do an introductory project for a class I
am taking at the University of Aberdeen. I have a 2008 MacBook Pro that
can't handle any operating system later than 10.11.6. I found the archive
page with a long list of older versions of the QGIS packages available, but
there is no information listed for what the System's requirements are for
each of them. What is the latest version of the software that I can run on
my system?
Thanks,
Dan
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] aspetto qgis

2021-03-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Strano, i profili dovrebbero essere ereditari.

Il 17 marzo 2021 11:21:18 CET, Daniele Bonaposta  
ha scritto:
>Ciao a tutti,
>sono passato da poco alla 3.16, vorrei ripristinare i pannelli come li
>avevo nella precedente versione in modo permanente, senza che ad ogni
>riavvio di QGIS li ritrovo come di default.
>Non ricordo come si fa a salvare o rendere permanente la configurazione
>dei
>pannelli. Ho cercato e l'unica cosa che ho trovato è quella di salvare
>un
>file .ini, ma a quanto ricordo con la 3.10 non avevo fatto così.
>
>Grazie e saluti,
>Daniele
>
>
>
>
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2021-03-17 Thread Daniele Bonaposta
Ciao a tutti,
sono passato da poco alla 3.16, vorrei ripristinare i pannelli come li
avevo nella precedente versione in modo permanente, senza che ad ogni
riavvio di QGIS li ritrovo come di default.
Non ricordo come si fa a salvare o rendere permanente la configurazione dei
pannelli. Ho cercato e l'unica cosa che ho trovato è quella di salvare un
file .ini, ma a quanto ricordo con la 3.10 non avevo fatto così.

Grazie e saluti,
Daniele




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Re: [Qgis-user] Learning resources/books for QGIS

2021-03-17 Thread Alexandre Neto
For YouTube, check klas karlsson and Hans  van der kwas channels

https://youtube.com/c/KlasKarlsson
https://youtube.com/c/HansvanderKwast

Safe bets!

Alexandre Neto


A quarta, 17/03/2021, 02:47, Roderick Anderson 
escreveu:

> Thank you to Kirk and Alexandre for the suggestions.
>
> Book wise: I had been looking at "QGIS Map Design" and I think Kurk
> Menke's "QGIS 3"
>
> I'll have to make another pass at the YouTube offerings.  I don't use
> YouTube often so it will be "New adventures in learning."  :-)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Rod
> --
> On 3/12/21 9:39 AM, Roderick Anderson wrote:
> > Good day.
> >
> > I looking for some suggestions of books on learning QGIS.
> >
> > I have some background (very long ago - late 80's / early 90's) with GIS
> > but at that time is was more about mapping not analysis.
> >
> > In fact, I am looking to use QGIS for building maps for personal use.
> > Something along the lines of the Washington state (US) "Map Your
> > Neighborhood" project.  The ability to easily load personal data is
> > important.
> >
> > For me the QGIS Documentation assumes a more current knowledge of the
> > technology and terminology than I have.
> >
> > I've looked at the QGIS book selections but not quite sure which would
> > the best for my needs.
> >
> > Any and all suggestions are welcome.
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> > Rod
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