Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on MacOs question

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 2/26/22 01:16, Richard Welty wrote:

after a bit of a layoff and a MacOS upgrade or two, i'm back to
using QGIS for a project. just upgraded to the current LTR,
running on Big Sur.

can anyone shed light on how to deal with the MacOS permission
system? I can load up the shapefiles fine, pick out the features
i need, but when i go to export that layer, it's complaining about
a read only file system. i'm not at all clear on where to find
& fix the settings.



Richard, could it be that you only provide a name for the export? In the dialog 
it is intuitive to only type a name, but actually you need to browse to a 
directory first (using the little dots next to the input) and THEN add a name.
Without the path QGIS tries to save it in 'current dir' which is probably the 
directory in which QGIS is installed...

Note this is my experience with other users on Windooz, I'm not a mac owner/user

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

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[Qgis-user] QGIS on MacOs question

[Richard Welty]

after a bit of a layoff and a MacOS upgrade or two, i'm back to
using QGIS for a project. just upgraded to the current LTR,
running on Big Sur.

can anyone shed light on how to deal with the MacOS permission
system? I can load up the shapefiles fine, pick out the features
i need, but when i go to export that layer, it's complaining about
a read only file system. i'm not at all clear on where to find
& fix the settings.

thanks,
   richard
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[QGIS-it-user] Come ingannare il tempo mentre si aspetta

[Marco Spaziani]

E' appena uscita la versione 3.22 LTR di QGIS e, se non vi dispiace,
procedo subito con lo scaricarmela.
Il pacchetto per installarla è molto più grande del solito e quindi il
download dura di più 
Cosa fare, nel frattempo, mentre il download procede, per ingannare il
tempo?
Una bella donazione a QGIS !
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[chris hermansen]

Anita and list members,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anita Graser  wrote:

> Good points, Jürgen!
>
> On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> > Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude
> people
> > from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
> > something on our news feed
>
> I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
> impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a VPN.
>
> News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
> while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the website.
>

Given the clarity in the GPL (under which QGIS is licensed) around not
restricting the freedom of others, I don't see how we QGIS community
members can advocate for limiting freedoms.

But I do like the idea of concrete positive things we can do as a
community, whether by naming upcoming versions of QGIS for cities where
people are oppressed by invaders or their own governments or by engaging in
public expressions of support as Andreas Neumann suggested... here is
another idea: what about individually contributing some funds "in the name
of QGIS and freedom" to worthy organizations that will actually help the
people of Ukraine?  For example https://redcross.org.ua/en/ or possibly
this organization http://ukrainedemocracy.org/  Or maybe a Kickstarter or
GoFundMe to collectivize our contributions?


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Anita Graser]

Good points, Jürgen!

On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude people
from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
something on our news feed


I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a VPN.

News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the website.

Regards,

Anita



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Andreas,

On Fri, 25. Feb 2022 at 14:41:17 +0100, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> The naming of the next QGIS release 3.26 (due for release in June) after
> Ukraine or Kiew sounds like a good and interesting proposal that should be

Київ or Kyiv.  I think Kiew is from the russian transliteration.

Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude people
from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
something on our news feed - getting banned for speaking the truth would be
better than to also ban good people, who are beeing lied to - and may get
arrested for speaking their mind, if they found out.


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[Qgis-user] Explorer filter instability?

[celati Laurent]

Good afternoon,

I work with postgis and Qgis. In "data warehouse" mode more than real
 database. This means that we have a large number of tables that require a
search mode to identify them. Search them.
 The explorer is practical because the interface is directly accessible.
Nevertheless,
the search seems very unstable. A search sometimes works well. Then the
same search no longer works a few moments later : no /data table is
identified/found.
Have other users noticed this instability? I see there are different filter
syntax modes: normal, joker, regular expression. I don't really know their
meanings. The Qgis documentation seems more than light on these features.
Thank a lot.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Markus,

The naming of the next QGIS release 3.26 (due for release in June) after
Ukraine or Kiew sounds like a good and interesting proposal that should be
discussed in the QGIS PSC and community. Thanks for raising this idea!

Normally we use the place names of "contributor meetings", but the last
version 3.24 was named in honor of Håvard - a very active Norwegian QGIS
community member who unfortunately passed away recently.

Markus: Do you want to send a formal request to the PSC mailing list? See
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#qgis-project-steering-committee-psc-list

Thanks,
Andreas

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 14:22, landcons...@freenet.de 
wrote:

> Dear List, dear Andreas,
>
> Andreas, before you close this thread, a final general comment: since 7
> years I am teaching my students at the University in Freiburg that Open
> Source is more than an IT project, it is a movement, that will change the
> world, including values like transparency, participation, shared
> information and first of all freedom and peace. And the QGIS project and
> its vital and global community is a lighthouse project representing all
> these values.
>
> Many commited QGIS users share these values with the rest of the world,
> and therefore show deep solidarity with the Ukraine.
>
> So, here is another - more passive - proposal, how we could address the
> raid on Ukraine adequately: let´s name the next QGIS release "Ukraine" or
> "Kiev" to express the solidarity with the people in Ukraine and their fight
> for freedom.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus
>
> Am 25.02.2022 um 11:48 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>
> Hi all,
>
> May I suggest that we stop this thread here - and try to fight the Russian
> aggression in different ways / different channels? This is not the right
> channel to make a meaningful difference in this horrible war.
>
> As an example, we can try to influence / put some pressure on our local
> governments. Both the German and the Swiss governments are blocking more
> effective sanctions on Russia. By not buying Russian energy and raw
> materials and by freezing bank accounts of Russian oligarchs who support
> this war - this is where we can make a difference. So the pressure needs to
> be put on our European governments - and not in the QGIS user community.
>
> As an example: in Berne / Switzerland there will be a demonstration
> tomorrow at noon to put pressure on our Swiss government to freeze Russian
> bank accounts and to prohibit raw material trading (a lot of Russian raw
> materials are traded in Switzerland). I believe this is where we can make a
> difference.
>
> Wish you all the best,
> Andreas
>
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 10:50, landcons...@freenet.de <
> landcons...@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear Andreas, dear list,
>>
>> Andreas, you wrote "*If we start excluding countries and organizations
>> on such assumptions*" I wished you could understand that Putin´s
>> aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, Chechnya,
>> Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic power that can
>> stop this is the Russian people.
>>
>> And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are
>> "suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you say,
>> I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade the
>> Ukraine).
>>
>> I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really appreciate
>> the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS community. But I
>> am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not a reason for them to
>> start thinking about the legality to kill civilians in independant
>> neighbouring countries.
>>
>> It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS
>> community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian members
>> as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.
>>
>> And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "*red line*", you are
>> not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
>> This is cynical.
>>
>> We must not be passive and hoping "*that this situation can soon be
>> deescalated*" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely clear
>> that military force against democratic countries will have consequences for
>> the agressors.
>>
>> And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your
>> culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope of
>> my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and Tools
>> that came from you.
>> Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure
>> freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>>
>> Dear Markus,
>>
>> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that
>> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
>> excluding Russian QGIS 

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[landcons...@freenet.de]

Dear List, dear Andreas,

Andreas, before you close this thread, a final general comment: since 7 
years I am teaching my students at the University in Freiburg that Open 
Source is more than an IT project, it is a movement, that will change 
the world, including values like transparency, participation, shared 
information and first of all freedom and peace. And the QGIS project and 
its vital and global community is a lighthouse project representing all 
these values.


Many commited QGIS users share these values with the rest of the world, 
and therefore show deep solidarity with the Ukraine.


So, here is another - more passive - proposal, how we could address the 
raid on Ukraine adequately: let´s name the next QGIS release "Ukraine" 
or "Kiev" to express the solidarity with the people in Ukraine and their 
fight for freedom.


What do you think?

Best regards,

Markus


Am 25.02.2022 um 11:48 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Hi all,

May I suggest that we stop this thread here - and try to fight the 
Russian aggression in different ways / different channels? This is not 
the right channel to make a meaningful difference in this horrible war.


As an example, we can try to influence / put some pressure on our 
local governments. Both the German and the Swiss governments are 
blocking more effective sanctions on Russia. By not buying Russian 
energy and raw materials and by freezing bank accounts of Russian 
oligarchs who support this war - this is where we can make a 
difference. So the pressure needs to be put on our European 
governments - and not in the QGIS user community.


As an example: in Berne / Switzerland there will be a demonstration 
tomorrow at noon to put pressure on our Swiss government to freeze 
Russian bank accounts and to prohibit raw material trading (a lot of 
Russian raw materials are traded in Switzerland). I believe this is 
where we can make a difference.


Wish you all the best,
Andreas

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 10:50, landcons...@freenet.de 
 wrote:


Dear Andreas, dear list,

Andreas, you wrote "/If we start excluding countries and
organizations on such assumptions/" I wished you could understand
that Putin´s aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in
Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next).
The only non-atomic power that can stop this is the Russian people.

And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some
Russians are "suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the
"majority" like you say, I had no need to write this letter and
Putin never dared to invade the Ukraine).

I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really
appreciate the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the
QGIS community. But I am sure the invasion of their army into
Ukraine is not a reason for them to start thinking about the
legality to kill civilians in independant neighbouring countries.

It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful
QGIS community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of
Russian members as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.

And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "/red line/",
you are not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil
exploration"  This is cynical.

We must not be passive and hoping "/that this situation can soon
be deescalated/" is not enough. The time is now to make it
absolutely clear that military force against democratic countries
will have consequences for the agressors.

And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and
your culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in
the scope of my professional work, this includes all the great
QGIS Plugins and Tools that came from you.
Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to
secure freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!

Best regards,

Markus


Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I
agree that the aggression from the Putin regime should be
condemned, I am against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and
sustaining members. If we start excluding countries and
organizations on such assumptions - where do we draw the line?
The majority of today's world population unfortunately has to
live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is
ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing
QGIS software allowed, as an example?

As the current QGIS.ORG  treasurer I can say
that we had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is
no indication that this company is collaborating with the Putin
government - though it is of course a bit hard to judge - of
course - for outsiders.

The 

Re: [Qgis-user] How to import a XML color ramp ?

[Nicolas Cadieux]

This should help

https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/user_manual/style_library/style_manager.html?highlight=color%20map#importing-items

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 17 févr. 2022 à 16:26, Allan López  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> I got a color ramp parula.XML, but I do not see a way to import it along with 
> the other ramps.
> I appreciate your kind assistance
> Best,
> Allan Lopez
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi all,

May I suggest that we stop this thread here - and try to fight the Russian
aggression in different ways / different channels? This is not the right
channel to make a meaningful difference in this horrible war.

As an example, we can try to influence / put some pressure on our local
governments. Both the German and the Swiss governments are blocking more
effective sanctions on Russia. By not buying Russian energy and raw
materials and by freezing bank accounts of Russian oligarchs who support
this war - this is where we can make a difference. So the pressure needs to
be put on our European governments - and not in the QGIS user community.

As an example: in Berne / Switzerland there will be a demonstration
tomorrow at noon to put pressure on our Swiss government to freeze Russian
bank accounts and to prohibit raw material trading (a lot of Russian raw
materials are traded in Switzerland). I believe this is where we can make a
difference.

Wish you all the best,
Andreas

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 10:50, landcons...@freenet.de 
wrote:

> Dear Andreas, dear list,
>
> Andreas, you wrote "*If we start excluding countries and organizations on
> such assumptions*" I wished you could understand that Putin´s aggression
> is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia,
> Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic power that can stop
> this is the Russian people.
>
> And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are
> "suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you say,
> I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade the
> Ukraine).
>
> I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really appreciate
> the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS community. But I
> am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not a reason for them to
> start thinking about the legality to kill civilians in independant
> neighbouring countries.
>
> It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS
> community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian members
> as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.
>
> And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "*red line*", you are
> not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
> This is cynical.
>
> We must not be passive and hoping "*that this situation can soon be
> deescalated*" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely clear
> that military force against democratic countries will have consequences for
> the agressors.
>
> And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your
> culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope of
> my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and Tools
> that came from you.
> Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure
> freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus
>
> Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>
> Dear Markus,
>
> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that
> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
> excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start
> excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we
> draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has
> to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
> dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of
> QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as
> an example?
>
> As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining
> member from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is
> collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard
> to judge - of course - for outsiders.
>
> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population
> would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war
> and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it
> ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and
> contributors based on these events.
>
> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this
> aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in
> the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be
> deescalated.
>
> Greetings,
> Andreas
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de <
> landcons...@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion
>> in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially
>> on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global,
>> peaceful open source community.
>>
>> - So, what can 

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Rémi Andreoli]

Dear Markus,

Dear list,

It takes a lot of courage to have carried this voice which unfortunately 
seems to be lacking among our compatriots in Western countries.
I also read Alexander's Despair. How can we be indifferent to what 
happens? How can we not see the threat hanging over us all?


Giving money doesn't give the right to pay our silence or inaction.

As our coward governments do not want to fight to protect a neighbour 
who just wants to have the same values and right as us, who wants to 
choose its own destiny, it is our duty to fight with all our strength 
and with all the means at our disposal.


We have to remember that freedom is not priceless, our fathers and grand 
fathers have fight for it. And unfortunalty, it is maybe the time for us 
to do the same.


So I agree with you Markus.

Remi

Le 2022-02-25 20:50, landcons...@freenet.de a écrit :


Dear Andreas, dear list,

Andreas, you wrote "_If we start excluding countries and organizations 
on such assumptions_" I wished you could understand that Putin´s 
aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, 
Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic 
power that can stop this is the Russian people.


And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are 
"suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you 
say, I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade 
the Ukraine).


I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really 
appreciate the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS 
community. But I am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not 
a reason for them to start thinking about the legality to kill 
civilians in independant neighbouring countries.


It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS 
community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian 
members as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.


And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "_red line_", you are 
not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
 This is cynical.


We must not be passive and hoping "_that this situation can soon be 
deescalated_" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely 
clear that military force against democratic countries will have 
consequences for the agressors.


And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your 
culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope 
of my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and 
Tools that came from you.
Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure 
freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!


Best regards,

Markus
Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree 
that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am 
against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If 
we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - 
where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population 
unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns 
democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what 
is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS 
software allowed, as an example?


As the current QGIS.ORG [1] treasurer I can say that we had a 
sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication that 
this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though it is 
of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.


The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian 
population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be 
involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice? 
Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding 
Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.


We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by 
this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian 
refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can 
soon be deescalated.


Greetings,
Andreas

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
 wrote:


Dear List,

like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian 
invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world 
and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all 
represent in a global, peaceful open source community.


- So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
- What can the QGIS community do?
- How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for 
Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?


The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is 
the representative body of the 

[Qgis-user] splitting the polyline

[Asim al-sofi]

Hi everyone
I have a question related to splitting a polyline into a number of
polylines.
Suppose I have a polyline geom.asPolyline() and want to split the polyline
from the first point till a specified point.
Is there a possibility to do that?
Kind regards,
Asim Al-Sofi
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[landcons...@freenet.de]

Dear Andreas, dear list,

Andreas, you wrote "/If we start excluding countries and organizations 
on such assumptions/" I wished you could understand that Putin´s 
aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, 
Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic 
power that can stop this is the Russian people.


And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are 
"suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you 
say, I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade 
the Ukraine).


I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really 
appreciate the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS 
community. But I am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not 
a reason for them to start thinking about the legality to kill civilians 
in independant neighbouring countries.


It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS 
community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian 
members as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.


And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "/red line/", you are 
not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
 This is cynical.


We must not be passive and hoping "/that this situation can soon be 
deescalated/" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely clear 
that military force against democratic countries will have consequences 
for the agressors.


And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your 
culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope 
of my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and 
Tools that came from you.
Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure 
freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!


Best regards,

Markus


Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree 
that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am 
against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If 
we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - 
where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population 
unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns 
democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what 
is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS 
software allowed, as an example?


As the current QGIS.ORG  treasurer I can say that we 
had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication 
that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though 
it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.


The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian 
population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be 
involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice? 
Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding 
Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.


We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by 
this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian 
refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can 
soon be deescalated.


Greetings,
Andreas

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
 wrote:


Dear List,

like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which
we all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.

- So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
- What can the QGIS community do?
- How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be
used for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?

The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament
which is the representative body of the Russian people.
Consequently the Russian population bears responsibility for the
invasion and we should led them know, that military force against
an independent, free and democratic European country goes against
all the values ​​we stand for in the open source community.

The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of
Russian products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion
to all Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to
the ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which
is becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.

With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think
about excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS
activities as long as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.

I think, 

Re: [Qgis-user] Qgis-user Digest, Vol 192, Issue 47

[Massimo Figaroli]

Dear All,
war is never the right answer.
Let's face it, up until today of the countless conflicts present in the
world, was there ever talk in this community? Can we exclude that there
have been QGIS members and supporters who have suffered acts of
discrimination, aggression, until now? No.
Can we rule out that someone has used QGIS for non-peaceful purposes (in
the broadest sense of the term)? No.
Certainly, due to its geographical position and the players in the field,
the current situation enjoys exceptional importance.
In my opinion, the QGIS Community can be the bearer of messages of
closeness to the populations affected by the conflict, populations, okay?
Does a freelancer, a student, a researcher using QGIS, whether Russian or
Ukrainian, make a difference to the Community?
I would propose to insert the peace symbol in the spalshcreen then.
This is my humble and simple thought.
Kind regards,

Massimo

--
*Massimo Figaroli*
Ambientologo e Agrotecnico Laureato

Como (CO) - Italy


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