Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
As I said before, I don't mind including it at all, however, we cannot guarantee operational support, though we do try to keep it runnable. If I remember right, this was the stumbling point before. No maintainer - no inclusion in trunk. Maxim Вы писали 28 мая 2010 г., 10:15:47: PC> Maxim Dubinin ha scritto: >> GM> I noticed that the dll version of the plugin for windows has problems >> GM> (qgis crashes when activating the plugin in the manager), there is a fix >> GM> on sight? >> >> working on it. PC> however, maintaining C++ plugins out of trunk is a pain, both for developers and for PC> users: are there good reasons not to include in trunk? PC> all the best. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
Maxim Dubinin ha scritto: > GM> I noticed that the dll version of the plugin for windows has problems > GM> (qgis crashes when activating the plugin in the manager), there is a fix > GM> on sight? > > working on it. however, maintaining C++ plugins out of trunk is a pain, both for developers and for users: are there good reasons not to include in trunk? all the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
GM> I noticed that the dll version of the plugin for windows has problems GM> (qgis crashes when activating the plugin in the manager), there is a fix GM> on sight? working on it. Maxim Вы писали 28 мая 2010 г., 4:11:32: GM> Olá Andre, >> Does anyone has a guide for installing qgis2google plugin under linux >> (http://gis-lab.info/qa/qgis2google-eng.html)? >> >> The developer site has instructions, but i'm too rookie to understand >> it... I tried to follow the instructions but the only thing I achieved >> was to have to reinstall qgis!! Does anyone has an installation >> guide for dummies? GM> it really passes trough compiling code. If you are not comfortable I can GM> manage you qgis packages with the plugin included. Which flavour of GM> Ubuntu are you using? karmic or lucid? GM> Considered that is a really cool tool it would be better to have the GM> plugin added upstream... the possibility has been considered by the devs GM> (both of the plugin and qgis)? GM> I noticed that the dll version of the plugin for windows has problems GM> (qgis crashes when activating the plugin in the manager), there is a fix GM> on sight? GM> cheers! GM> -- Giovanni -- GM> ___ GM> Qgis-developer mailing list GM> qgis-develo...@lists.osgeo.org GM> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
In R user do compile, but in a completely automated fashion. But yes, probably this is asking too much :) Certainly yes, a plugin mechanism is not very useful if users cannot in fact plug in anything... ;) All the best. On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:31:47 -0600, Maxim Dubinin wrote: > hmm, are we gonna rewrite everything written in C++ in Python? > > I'm not against if someone is willing to port or rewrite, but I'm certain -- http://faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > > I do not see it as very exotic - it certainly raises a lot of interest. > It would be good, however, to put in place a mechanism for an > user-installation of plugins (a common problem for several projects, the > only real solution I know is for R). R plugins for Unix with compiled C/C++ code require the user to have the ability to build from source, so to copy that behaviour will require the same for Qgis. Is there anything in this plugin that fundamentally stops it being re-written in Python? Barry ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
hmm, are we gonna rewrite everything written in C++ in Python? I'm not against if someone is willing to port or rewrite, but I'm certain that this won't be us, at least not in the near future. Maxim BR> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> >> I do not see it as very exotic - it certainly raises a lot of interest. >> It would be good, however, to put in place a mechanism for an >> user-installation of plugins (a common problem for several projects, the >> only real solution I know is for R). BR> R plugins for Unix with compiled C/C++ code require the user to have BR> the ability to build from source, so to copy that behaviour will BR> require the same for Qgis. BR> Is there anything in this plugin that fundamentally stops it being BR> re-written in Python? BR> Barry BR> ___ BR> Qgis-user mailing list BR> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org BR> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
I do not see it as very exotic - it certainly raises a lot of interest. It would be good, however, to put in place a mechanism for an user-installation of plugins (a common problem for several projects, the only real solution I know is for R). All the best. On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:55:58 +0300, Shota Murtskhvaladze wrote: > I support the idea. > > 2009/11/3 Maxim Dubinin > >> I don't mind. >> >> The plugin seems a little bit exotic for the core, but if that's what >> people >> what than +1 from us. -- http://faunalia.it/pc ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
Nice topic. My two cents. We cannot ask a "power user" to release its tools cross-platform as a requirement. This is a must for the official development, but probably most of the power users work on a single environment. So we can kindly ask for the possibility to have a tool cross-platform, but if the developer cannot accomplish it (at least not immediatly) a clear "how-to" to compile by ourselves could fill the time gaps between cross-platform releases. I think it would help a lot to make make an effort to standardize the compile/build process for Linux (it's already quite easy), Windows (not so easy!!!), Mac (I don't know...) to put an end-user, if he wants, to compile plugins (both C++ and python) by itself. I've tried with Windows... but I've given up, lost between nmake, MSVC, different libraries flavours, manglings between OsGeo4W libraries and the system's ones... Jurgen knows what I'm talking about :-( Anyway, I'm on the research side of the story. I prefer to use then compile :) giovanni 2009/10/21 Barend Köbben : > I'm all for that, but again, please note that >> a compilation guide for users > is a 'contradictio in terminis' , ie. an average user should not have to > compile, with or without a guide > > -- > Barend Köbben > International Institute for Geo-Information > Sciences and Earth Observation (ITC) > PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede, The Netherlands > +31 (0)53 4874253 > > > > On 21-10-09 17:41, "Maxim Dubinin" wrote: > >> I guess we need policy written out for C++ plugins, how users are >> going to get them under Linux, what devs should do to make user's life >> easier, may be a compilation guide for users etc. >> >> Hackfest topic? >> >> Maxim >> >> Вы писали 21 октября 2009 г., 10:37:37: >> >> >> PC> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:35 +0200, "G. Allegri" >> PC> wrote: >> I absolutely agree with you! I'm a geologist/soil scientist (as you), and I prefer to concentrate on my research rather then learning build systems and compile environments... I just do/try by myself in cases I can't wait for a developer to build something for me >> >> PC> Sure. End users shouldn't build anything. >> PC> Please note however that windows users have now an excellent opportunity: >> PC> installing qgis-dev from osgeo4w gives you the latest qgis from previous >> PC> day, precompiled. >> PC> All the best. >> > > > International Institute for Geo-Information Science and Earth Observation > (ITC) > Chamber of Commerce: 410 27 560 > > E-mail disclaimer > The information in this e-mail, including any attachments, is intended for > the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action in relation to > the content of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this e-mail by mistake, please delete the message and any attachment and > inform the sender by return e-mail. ITC accepts no liability for any error or > omission in the message content or for damage of any kind that may arise as a > result of e-mail transmission. > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
I'm all for that, but again, please note that > a compilation guide for users is a 'contradictio in terminis' , ie. an average user should not have to compile, with or without a guide -- Barend Köbben International Institute for Geo-Information Sciences and Earth Observation (ITC) PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede, The Netherlands +31 (0)53 4874253 On 21-10-09 17:41, "Maxim Dubinin" wrote: > I guess we need policy written out for C++ plugins, how users are > going to get them under Linux, what devs should do to make user's life > easier, may be a compilation guide for users etc. > > Hackfest topic? > > Maxim > > Вы писали 21 октября 2009 г., 10:37:37: > > > PC> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:35 +0200, "G. Allegri" > PC> wrote: > >>> I absolutely agree with you! I'm a geologist/soil scientist (as you), >>> and I prefer to concentrate on my research rather then learning build >>> systems and compile environments... I just do/try by myself in cases I >>> can't wait for a developer to build something for me > > PC> Sure. End users shouldn't build anything. > PC> Please note however that windows users have now an excellent opportunity: > PC> installing qgis-dev from osgeo4w gives you the latest qgis from previous > PC> day, precompiled. > PC> All the best. > International Institute for Geo-Information Science and Earth Observation (ITC) Chamber of Commerce: 410 27 560 E-mail disclaimer The information in this e-mail, including any attachments, is intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action in relation to the content of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please delete the message and any attachment and inform the sender by return e-mail. ITC accepts no liability for any error or omission in the message content or for damage of any kind that may arise as a result of e-mail transmission. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] qgis2google
I guess we need policy written out for C++ plugins, how users are going to get them under Linux, what devs should do to make user's life easier, may be a compilation guide for users etc. Hackfest topic? Maxim Вы писали 21 октября 2009 г., 10:37:37: PC> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:35 +0200, "G. Allegri" PC> wrote: >> I absolutely agree with you! I'm a geologist/soil scientist (as you), >> and I prefer to concentrate on my research rather then learning build >> systems and compile environments... I just do/try by myself in cases I >> can't wait for a developer to build something for me PC> Sure. End users shouldn't build anything. PC> Please note however that windows users have now an excellent opportunity: PC> installing qgis-dev from osgeo4w gives you the latest qgis from previous PC> day, precompiled. PC> All the best. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
