Re: [Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-05-05 Thread Joris Hintjens
Thanks Joost, 

You’re right, sorry, digit missing. 
shalkya is at +/- X: 7508000 Y: 5472000
 Op 30-apr.-2015, om 16:31 heeft Andre Joost andre+jo...@nurfuerspam.de het 
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 Am 29.04.2015 um 18:16 schrieb Joris Hintjens:
 Hello,
 
 I have a csv file with a list of coordinates. for example one of
 them: X  Y 12374462.4355 4877977.8396
 
 notice the (to me at least) strange X coordinate: in the 12millon
 range.
 
 This might be a false Easting. In the Soviet Union, 3-degree or 6-degree 
 Gauss-Krueger systems based on the Pulkovo datum were common. To distinguish 
 the zones, a high value of false Easting was added.
 
 
 I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of
 Shalkya, with coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of
 +/- X: 750800 Y: 5472000
 
 These coordinates end up in the South of France for me.
 There might be one digit missing for the Easting.
 
 
 Greetings,
 André Joost
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-04-30 Thread Joris Hintjens
Hi Nicolas,

thanks for your input. To my knowledge, feet where never used as a unit in 
former Soviet Union. I di’d’nt know that there were crs’ses in feet at all. I 
will give it a try. thanks

Joris

 Op 29-apr.-2015, om 23:38 heeft Nicolas Cadieux 
 nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca het volgende geschreven:
 
 What if the coordinate where in feet instead of meters?  Where does that put 
 you? I would also look at local coordinate systems to see what they use.
 
 Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
 Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. 
 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
 Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
 www.archeotec.ca
 
 On Apr 29, 2015 12:14 PM, Joris Hintjens [via OSGeo.org]  [hidden 
 email] x-msg://2/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=5203573i=0 wrote:
 Hello, 
 
 I have a csv file with a list of coordinates. for example one of them: 
 X Y 
 12374462.4355 4877977.8396 
 
 notice the (to me at least) strange X coordinate: in the 12millon range. 
 
 I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of Shalkya, with 
 coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of +/- X: 750800 Y: 
 5472000 
 
 If I start at 0 lat and 0 long, I’m off about 5000KM. 
 
 How can I define which sourceCRS to use? How to treat this dataset for 
 further use? 
 
 Thanks for any suggestion. 
 
 Joris 
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-04-30 Thread Redoute

Am 29.04.2015 um 18:16 schrieb Joris Hintjens:


X   Y
12374462.4355   4877977.8396



I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of Shalkya, with 
coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of +/- X: 750800 Y: 5472000


EPSG:28412?
found with http://epsg.io/?q=Kazakhstan on page 3

HTH, Redoute

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-04-30 Thread Joris Hintjens
BINGO!

thanks a lot, Redoute. Seems correct. How did you do that, just trial and error 
until something came up? Or did you follow a certain logic?

ever grateful,
Joris

 Op 30-apr.-2015, om 10:18 heeft Redoute redo...@tortenboxer.de het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 Am 29.04.2015 um 18:16 schrieb Joris Hintjens:
 
 XY
 12374462.43554877977.8396
 
 I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of Shalkya, with 
 coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of +/- X: 750800 Y: 
 5472000
 
 EPSG:28412?
 found with http://epsg.io/?q=Kazakhstan on page 3
 
 HTH, Redoute
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-04-30 Thread Andre Joost

Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 16:27:42 +0200
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Am 29.04.2015 um 18:16 schrieb Joris Hintjens:

Hello,

I have a csv file with a list of coordinates. for example one of
them: X Y 12374462.4355 4877977.8396

notice the (to me at least) strange X coordinate: in the 12millon
range.


This might be a false Easting. In the Soviet Union, 3-degree or 6-degree 
Gauss-Krueger systems based on the Pulkovo datum were common. To 
distinguish the zones, a high value of false Easting was added.




I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of
Shalkya, with coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of
+/- X: 750800 Y: 5472000


These coordinates end up in the South of France for me.
There might be one digit missing for the Easting.


Greetings,
André Joost

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[Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-04-29 Thread Joris Hintjens
Hello,

I have a csv file with a list of coordinates. for example one of them:
X   Y
12374462.4355   4877977.8396

notice the (to me at least) strange X coordinate: in the 12millon range.

I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of Shalkya, with 
coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of +/- X: 750800 Y: 
5472000 

If I start at 0 lat and 0 long, I’m off about 5000KM.

How can I define which sourceCRS to use? How to treat this dataset for further 
use?

Thanks for any suggestion.

Joris

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to define which CRS to use?

2015-04-29 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
What if the coordinate where in feet instead of meters?nbsp; Where does that 
put you? I would also look at local coordinate systems to see what they use. 
Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. 
Les Entreprises Arch#233;otec inc.#160; 
8548, rue Saint-Denis Montr#233;al H2P 2H2 
T#233;l#233;phone:#160;514.381.5112 #160;Fax: 514.381.4995 
www.archeotec.ca 
On Apr 29, 2015 12:14 PM, quot;Joris Hintjens [via OSGeo.org]  quot; 
lt;ml-node+s1560n5203528...@n6.nabble.comgt; wrote: 

Hello,
I have a csv file with a list of coordinates. for example one of them:
X   Y
12374462.4355   4877977.8396
notice the (to me at least) strange X coordinate: in the 12millon range.
I know the point should land somewhere near the Kazach town of Shalkya, with 
coordinates in the EPSG3857 (WGS 84 pseudo mercator) of #43;/- X: 750800 Y: 
5472000 
If I start at 0 lat and 0 long, I’m off about 5000KM.
How can I define which sourceCRS to use? How to treat this dataset for further 
use?
Thanks for any suggestion.
Joris
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