Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-02-03 Thread Martin Dobias
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM,  pcr...@pcreso.com wrote:
 Is it possible to have a second transparent map canvas, analogous to the 
 Mapinfo cosmetic layer.

 This would allow, for example, a complex background map to remain static so a 
 gps layer in the new canvas can be quickly refreshed without refreshing the 
 entire map  all the background layers, unless, of couser, the map extent 
 changes.

 There are several times I've made simple changes to a small layer  QGIS 
 takes some time to re-render everything, when 99% of the refresh doesn't 
 actually change anything.

 This could be accomplished by having two map canvases, so users could add 
 static layers to the bottom one  more dynamic ones to the top one, to suit 
 their needs.

This is already possible. But instead of cosmetic layer we talk about
canvas items: map canvas contains rendered map and optionally any
number of other map canvas items (see QgsMapCanvasItem class). Canvas
items can be updated whenever needed and no re-render of map is
required. Also rubber band (see QgsRubberBand) which is used for
measuring distances and areas is a canvas item.

Martin
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-02-02 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi Martin

 Even more work is underway! We're going to release a native C++
 OpenStreetMap provider for QGIS in few days. It will come also with
 OSM downloader and (very experimental) upload.

That is great news!
I can't wait to do some OSM mapping with QGIS :-)

Regards,
Marco

Am Samstag 31 Januar 2009 20:28:27 schrieb Martin Dobias:
 On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it 
wrote:
  Florian Hillen ha scritto:
  first of all I want to thank everybody for the input an the suggestions.
  Some plugins are a bit to extensive for my bachelor thesis (I can
  maximal write about 40 pages), so I pick up the suggestion with the
  OpenStreetMap plugin and modify it a little.
 
  I'm glad of this. Please keep in touch with the community of devs: more
  effort is underway, eg
  http://gis-lab.info/programs/qgis/qgis-repo.xml

 Even more work is underway! We're going to release a native C++
 OpenStreetMap provider for QGIS in few days. It will come also with
 OSM downloader and (very experimental) upload.

 Creating another OSM plugin would therefore cause just code duplication.

 Regards
 Martin
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Dobias
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Christopher Barker
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
 Paolo Cavallini wrote:

 I've always been confused by that. But anyway, you could do it with Open
 Street Map tiles.

 Better take the vector data from OSM (see my previous suggestion): you
 can do more with that.

 Not if you want a nice streetmap as a basemap for something else -- it would
 take a lot of work to get QGIS to draw a map nearly as nice as the OSM ones.
 Indeed, I don't think it's possible.

Chris,
could you please explain your statement why it isn't possible?

Martin
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RE: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-02-02 Thread Aaron Racicot
I assume he was talking about trying to recreate the nice Mapnik generated
styling (labeling etc) that is found on the OSM website.  I think it would
be pretty much impossible to create such styling with the current state of
labeling etc.

A

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On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Christopher Barker
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
 Paolo Cavallini wrote:

 I've always been confused by that. But anyway, you could do it with Open
 Street Map tiles.

 Better take the vector data from OSM (see my previous suggestion): you
 can do more with that.

 Not if you want a nice streetmap as a basemap for something else -- it
would
 take a lot of work to get QGIS to draw a map nearly as nice as the OSM
ones.
 Indeed, I don't think it's possible.

Chris,
could you please explain your statement why it isn't possible?

Martin
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-02-01 Thread Craig Leat
Hi

Andreas Neumann wrote:
 I also thought it may be possible to use the Google maps data from within
 QGIS. One could probably use a hidden Webkit to make Google think it is a
 regular webbrowser that is requesting the tiles - and then merge and
 potentially reproject the GoogleMap tiles to use it as a regular
 background layer in QGIS.

Viking [1] offers google maps (in their various flavours) as a
background map and it's code is licensed under the GPL.

[1] http://viking.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page

Jacolin Yves wrote:
 This is forbidden by the Google user licence.

Noted.

Craig
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread G. Allegri
There's a work in progress with Python and OSM, maybe it could be of
interest for your development:
http://code.google.com/p/osmlab/

giovanni

2009/1/31 Florian Hillen fhil...@uni-osnabrueck.de:
 Dear mailing list,

 first of all I want to thank everybody for the input an the suggestions.
 Some plugins are a bit to extensive for my bachelor thesis (I can maximal
 write about 40 pages), so I pick up the suggestion with the OpenStreetMap
 plugin and modify it a little.
 Sometimes I'm in the situation, that I want to show somebody a track or
 something, but didn't have the appropriate background data. There are some
 ways to receive a shp from OSM-Data, but I think it's a lot more
 comfortable and maybe faster if it's implemented in QGIS as a plugin.
 So my plan is to build a plugin, that transforms OSM-Data to shp (either
 with an existing .osm file or with a given extend) and add a new layer (or
 many layers) to QGIS. If anybody knows that this plugin is already
 developed, please contact me!

 Thanks to everybody again and hopefully some of you will use my plugin in
 the future (even though I know that the plugin is more for private use
 than for commercial).

 Best regards,
 Florian
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread G. Allegri
  10.1 access or use the Service or any Content through any
  technology or means other than those provided in the Service,
  or through other explicitly authorized means Google may designate;

So even the OL google layer is out-of-law...
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread Yves Jacolin (free)
Le samedi 31 janvier 2009, G. Allegri a écrit :
   10.1 access or use the Service or any Content through any
   technology or means other than those provided in the Service,
   or through other explicitly authorized means Google may designate;

 So even the OL google layer is out-of-law...

OL is using Google API js, that's why it need javascript API link + google 
Key. In other words OL is using the one provided by the service by Google.

Y.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread G. Allegri
It's OT, we should open another thread... Anyway, it's not so clear.
When the Google license says technology or means other than those
provided in the Service what does it refer to exactly? OL is a mean
other than the google.maps interface... I'm not a lawyer, so I ask it
just to be sure.

2009/1/31 Yves Jacolin (free) yjaco...@free.fr:
 Le samedi 31 janvier 2009, G. Allegri a écrit :
   10.1 access or use the Service or any Content through any
   technology or means other than those provided in the Service,
   or through other explicitly authorized means Google may designate;

 So even the OL google layer is out-of-law...

 OL is using Google API js, that's why it need javascript API link + google
 Key. In other words OL is using the one provided by the service by Google.

 Y.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Florian Hillen ha scritto:

 first of all I want to thank everybody for the input an the suggestions.
 Some plugins are a bit to extensive for my bachelor thesis (I can maximal
 write about 40 pages), so I pick up the suggestion with the OpenStreetMap
 plugin and modify it a little.

I'm glad of this. Please keep in touch with the community of devs: more
effort is underway, eg
http://gis-lab.info/programs/qgis/qgis-repo.xml

 Thanks to everybody again and hopefully some of you will use my plugin in
 the future (even though I know that the plugin is more for private use
 than for commercial).

I'll do.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread Martin Dobias
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:
 Florian Hillen ha scritto:

 first of all I want to thank everybody for the input an the suggestions.
 Some plugins are a bit to extensive for my bachelor thesis (I can maximal
 write about 40 pages), so I pick up the suggestion with the OpenStreetMap
 plugin and modify it a little.

 I'm glad of this. Please keep in touch with the community of devs: more
 effort is underway, eg
 http://gis-lab.info/programs/qgis/qgis-repo.xml

Even more work is underway! We're going to release a native C++
OpenStreetMap provider for QGIS in few days. It will come also with
OSM downloader and (very experimental) upload.

Creating another OSM plugin would therefore cause just code duplication.

Regards
Martin
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-31 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Martin Dobias ha scritto:

 Even more work is underway! We're going to release a native C++
 OpenStreetMap provider for QGIS in few days. It will come also with
 OSM downloader and (very experimental) upload.
 
 Creating another OSM plugin would therefore cause just code duplication.

That's quite a surprise! Great.
So Florian (and Maxim), I think you better move to another subject
(fortunately there are many suggestions).
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Jacolin Yves
Andreas,

Le Friday 30 January 2009 08:40:48 Andreas Neumann, vous avez écrit :
 I also thought it may be possible to use the Google maps data from within
 QGIS. One could probably use a hidden Webkit to make Google think it is a
 regular webbrowser that is requesting the tiles - and then merge and
 potentially reproject the GoogleMap tiles to use it as a regular
 background layer in QGIS.

This is forbidden by the Google user licence.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Jacolin Yves
Le Thursday 29 January 2009 23:36:35 Giovanni Manghi, vous avez écrit :
  Hi Florian.
  Of course there are thousands of interesting things to do. I put y
  preferred ones:
  - an OpenStreetMap reader and writer; there is a proof of concept by
  Martin, who I believe is also interested in carrying the work on:
  http://www.mapserver.sk/~wonder/qgis/plugins-sandbox.xml
  http://www.faunalia.it/qgis/
  - an animal Home Range toolbox. We have a long-standing and slow-running
  project, called Animove, and it would be great to add different analyses
  to a toolbox. Have a look to: http://www.faunalia.it/animove/ and
  https://www.faunalia.it/dokuwiki/doku.php/public/animove_qgis_plugins if
  you are interested (I'm currently reorganizing the pages).

 There is also the ogr2layers plugin

 http://ogr2layers.org

 that seems to have been abandoned (and the developers do not reply to
 contact mails).

 It would be nice to have it back in 1.0 perhaps with a few of the
 features described in the original todo list

 http://ogr2layers.org/todo.html

 take care

 -- Giovanni --
Giovanni,

I know him, I am going to mail him (may be he subscribes here ?)

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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Lionel Roubeyrie
Hi,
the two things which let me use ArcGIS are:
1- a better labelling method. A plugin to render correctly labels would
make the difference.
2- The geostatistical analyst is a quick and easy way to make kriged
maps, and explore interpolated datas.

Le jeudi 29 janvier 2009 à 17:52 +0100, Florian Hillen a écrit :
 Dear mailing list.
 
 Concerning my bachelor thesis in geoinformatics I am thinking about
 developing a useful plugin for QGIS.
 Using QGIS quiet frequently, I was not missing a feature so far, but maybe
 anyone of you can imagine a missing functionality!?
 I appreciate all kinds of suggestions or any idea that could help.
 
 Best regards,
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 17:52 +0100, Florian Hillen wrote:
 Dear mailing list.
 
 Concerning my bachelor thesis in geoinformatics I am thinking about
 developing a useful plugin for QGIS.
 Using QGIS quiet frequently, I was not missing a feature so far, but maybe
 anyone of you can imagine a missing functionality!?
 I appreciate all kinds of suggestions or any idea that could help.
 
 Best regards,
 Florian

1. Smart labeling engine

2. A tool that creates as many new vector maps as the number of areas
(=closed polygons) in a given vector map. For example, I have a map with
with 10 digitised lakes. For some reason I would like a new map for each
lake without going through a select+save as process for each lake.

Kind Regards, Nikos

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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Carson Farmer

Hi Nikos,

Concerning my bachelor thesis in geoinformatics I am thinking about
developing a useful plugin for QGIS.
Using QGIS quiet frequently, I was not missing a feature so far, but maybe
anyone of you can imagine a missing functionality!?
I appreciate all kinds of suggestions or any idea that could help.

Best regards,
Florian



1. Smart labeling engine
  

I think this is in the works to some degree...

2. A tool that creates as many new vector maps as the number of areas
(=closed polygons) in a given vector map. For example, I have a map with
with 10 digitised lakes. For some reason I would like a new map for each
lake without going through a select+save as process for each lake.
  
By vector map do you mean vector layer? If so, then fTools has this 
functionality already, using the 'split vector layer tool' under 'data 
management'.


Carson

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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 14:53 +, Carson Farmer wrote:
 Hi Nikos,
  Concerning my bachelor thesis in geoinformatics I am thinking about
  developing a useful plugin for QGIS.
  Using QGIS quiet frequently, I was not missing a feature so far, but maybe
  anyone of you can imagine a missing functionality!?
  I appreciate all kinds of suggestions or any idea that could help.
 
  Best regards,
  Florian
  
 
  1. Smart labeling engine

 I think this is in the works to some degree...
  2. A tool that creates as many new vector maps as the number of areas
  (=closed polygons) in a given vector map. For example, I have a map with
  with 10 digitised lakes. For some reason I would like a new map for each
  lake without going through a select+save as process for each lake.

 By vector map do you mean vector layer? If so, then fTools has this 
 functionality already, using the 'split vector layer tool' under 'data 
 management'.
 
 Carson
 

Cool!

Thanks for your information :-)

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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Andreas Neumann
yes - you are probably right  too bad. It would have been a cool 
resource for worldwide coverage.


Jacolin Yves wrote:

Andreas,

Le Friday 30 January 2009 08:40:48 Andreas Neumann, vous avez écrit :
  

I also thought it may be possible to use the Google maps data from within
QGIS. One could probably use a hidden Webkit to make Google think it is a
regular webbrowser that is requesting the tiles - and then merge and
potentially reproject the GoogleMap tiles to use it as a regular
background layer in QGIS.



This is forbidden by the Google user licence.

Y.
  



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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Christopher Barker

Andreas Neumann wrote:

I also thought it may be possible to use the Google maps data from within
QGIS. One could probably use a hidden Webkit to make Google think it is a
regular webbrowser that is requesting the tiles


you wouldn't need to do all that -- google tiles are a regular old web 
service a simple http GET will get them, you just need to know the URL 
scheme.


Jacolin Yves wrote:

This is forbidden by the Google user licence.


I've always been confused by that. But anyway, you could do it with Open 
Street Map tiles.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread G. Allegri
 This is forbidden by the Google user licence.

Are you sure? Why should it be forbidden? If you use a web toolkit
under the hood you don't do anything different from browsing google
maps... Am I wrong?
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:12:39PM +0100, G. Allegri wrote:
  This is forbidden by the Google user licence.
 
 Are you sure? Why should it be forbidden?

From The Google Maps/Google Earth APIs Terms of Service
http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html
Read specially 10.8:

  ... you must not (nor may you permit anyone else to):
  ...

  10.1 access or use the Service or any Content through any 
  technology or means other than those provided in the Service, 
  or through other explicitly authorized means Google may designate;

  ...

  10.3 pre-fetch, cache, or store any Content, except that you 
  may store limited amounts of Content for the purpose of 
  improving the performance of your Maps API Implementation if you do
  so temporarily, securely, and in a manner that does not permit use 
  of the Content outside of the Service;

 ...

  10.8 use the Static Maps API other than in an implementation in 
  a web browser;

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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Christopher Barker ha scritto:

 I've always been confused by that. But anyway, you could do it with Open
 Street Map tiles.

Better take the vector data from OSM (see my previous suggestion): you
can do more with that. Or, even better, take both :)
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Florian Hillen ha scritto:
 Concerning my bachelor thesis in geoinformatics I am thinking about
 developing a useful plugin for QGIS.
 Using QGIS quiet frequently, I was not missing a feature so far, but maybe
 anyone of you can imagine a missing functionality!?
 I appreciate all kinds of suggestions or any idea that could help.

Hi Florian.
Of course there are thousands of interesting things to do. I put y
preferred ones:
- an OpenStreetMap reader and writer; there is a proof of concept by
Martin, who I believe is also interested in carrying the work on:
http://www.mapserver.sk/~wonder/qgis/plugins-sandbox.xml
http://www.faunalia.it/qgis/
- an animal Home Range toolbox. We have a long-standing and slow-running
project, called Animove, and it would be great to add different analyses
to a toolbox. Have a look to: http://www.faunalia.it/animove/ and
https://www.faunalia.it/dokuwiki/doku.php/public/animove_qgis_plugins if
you are interested (I'm currently reorganizing the pages).
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-29 Thread Yves Jacolin (free)
Le jeudi 29 janvier 2009, Florian Hillen a écrit :
 Dear mailing list.

 Concerning my bachelor thesis in geoinformatics I am thinking about
 developing a useful plugin for QGIS.
 Using QGIS quiet frequently, I was not missing a feature so far, but maybe
 anyone of you can imagine a missing functionality!?
 I appreciate all kinds of suggestions or any idea that could help.

 Best regards,
 Florian

an open modeler ArcGis feature but as good as the idrisi one ;)

Same thing in Sextante for gvSIG : 
http://www.sextantegis.com/en/screenshots.htm


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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Yves Jacolin (free) ha scritto:
 an open modeler ArcGis feature but as good as the idrisi one ;)

Also a frontend to ogr and gdal functions would be very useful.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Ideas for QGIS plugin?

2009-01-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
yes - a nice gdal frontend for cropping/merging/resampling rasters would
be cool.

I also thought it may be possible to use the Google maps data from within
QGIS. One could probably use a hidden Webkit to make Google think it is a
regular webbrowser that is requesting the tiles - and then merge and
potentially reproject the GoogleMap tiles to use it as a regular
background layer in QGIS.

Andreas


 Yves Jacolin (free) ha scritto:
 an open modeler ArcGis feature but as good as the idrisi one ;)

 Also a frontend to ogr and gdal functions would be very useful.
 pc
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