Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Cool! Thank`s so much for this! > FYI - Turns out option 3 eventuated and I needed this feature for my own > work. It's now in the current master version! ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
On 9 February 2016 at 07:19, Nyall Dawson wrote: > Well, the reality is that there's a very limited number of ways in which new > features get implemented in QGIS: > > 1. Write it yourself. (Requires knowledge of QGIS source and c++) > > 2. Pay someone else to write it for you (requires money) > > 3. Wait for someone else to write/pay for it (requires patience and hope > that your request is something someone else really needs) > > 4. Try to convince someone to donate their work/free time to do it for you > (requires super levels of negotiating and finding the magic words to say to > developers on irc/email/etc, or a project which is sufficiently interesting > to attract a developer's attention regardless.) > > I don't think there's any other ways code gets added to QGIS. > FYI - Turns out option 3 eventuated and I needed this feature for my own work. It's now in the current master version! Nyall ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Il 09/02/2016 08:19, Chris Berens ha scritto: > If there was a simple template to fill in, which calculated the relative > cost of the FOSS presence in one's organisation over time that might be > useful to motivate for a development budget. Free has little value to > those who don't use the tools directly. Thanks all for your thoughts. I agree that we should make it more simple for people and organization to fund specific efforts, and crowdfunding proved a simple and effective way to do so. IMHO we should put more prominently, possibly within qgis itself, an explanation on which crowdfunding projects are currently available, and how to fund them. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu QGIS & PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
On 08-02-16 22:06, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: > Hi Nyall, Richard, and Andreas, > On your list, Nyall, I would add Crowd funding as a fifth (and quite > popular) way of getting things into QGIS. And of course all fife can be > mixed to some extent... @Nyall: good idea to do a write up! Besides on your blog, maybe we can write a thorough page on the website to and make that very prominent. So a link to that (translated) page could be the 'standard reply' for us? And that page then has your points, but also makes it very clear that a project as QGIS also needs hands, time and effort from it's *users* too. > Anyway, keep up with your good work regardless if paid or voluntary. As > I see it, the mix is what makes the project successful... My main point is that QGIS started (and still is) a volunteering project. And to give users rather not so nuanced replies like: "plz pay for this feature if you can" is not the message that I think we should sent to the world. I'm OK off course with sponsoring and hiring good developers to add something to QGIS, but it is the tone that makes the musique (in french it sounds better :-) ). Andreas (thanks for this!) sent me a link to this article: https://mako.cc/writing/funding_volunteers/funding_volunteers.html which (at least to me) hits exactly the right spot. Plz all read it! As a community we should try to stay friendly, open and correct. No need to act like a business, as I hope/think a healthy community is in the end stronger then a business. Regards & thanks, Richard ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
If there was a simple template to fill in, which calculated the relative cost of the FOSS presence in one's organisation over time that might be useful to motivate for a development budget. Free has little value to those who don't use the tools directly. Chris Berens, GISc www.mapland.co.za +27 (0)82 567 9322 On 9 February 2016 at 09:01, Neumann, Andreas wrote: > Hi all, > > I also think that a list of potential ways to support the QGIS project > (both with time/voluntary work or financial) would be useful, with updates > from time to time. > > Stefan, thanks for clarifying that NINA is a private organization. And > yes, crowd funding is also a good way to support new features, esp. for > larger efforts or feature wishes one cannot finance from within a single > organization. > > One idea with the goal of minimizing bureaucracy when trying to fund > smaller features from time to time is to buy an hourly pool (say 25, 50 or > 100 hours) at the QGIS developer/supporter of your choice. I did that at my > previous employer and could then flexibly use this hourly pool to get > either support or trigger smaller fixes and developments. > > Andreas > > On 2016-02-08 23:01, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: > > Hi again, > > Indeed, for us enterprise users a nice collection/overview of reasons for > working with and paying for FOSS (including a howto) could be really > helpful when discussing with decision makers. > > I remember Paolo had a post in that direction: > https://faunaliagis.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/6-reasons-to-pay-for-open-source-software/ > > A critical point might also be that it can be simply more easy, to use > money on proprietary software. You have probably only one local dealer, you > get a price and you know more or less what you get for your money. Once you > made your decision on a software, sat aside your annual license fees and > accepted that this has to be payed, things go more or less automatically... > With the legal entity, QGIS is maybe on a good way there. I could also > imagine, that the grouping the many feature requests into (crowd) fundable > packages might be helpful. In some cases the gentle push from a starting > crowd funding activity (or when it is about to end) can be enough to make > people to use some money... > > Cheers > Stefan > > Good point. I keep meaning to write this up properly at some stage as a > blog post, so keep the suggestions coming. I think it'd be useful to have > all > this stuff outlined and explained so that people can make informed > decisions about the best way to get their requests fulfilled. > > Nyall > > > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi all, I also think that a list of potential ways to support the QGIS project (both with time/voluntary work or financial) would be useful, with updates from time to time. Stefan, thanks for clarifying that NINA is a private organization. And yes, crowd funding is also a good way to support new features, esp. for larger efforts or feature wishes one cannot finance from within a single organization. One idea with the goal of minimizing bureaucracy when trying to fund smaller features from time to time is to buy an hourly pool (say 25, 50 or 100 hours) at the QGIS developer/supporter of your choice. I did that at my previous employer and could then flexibly use this hourly pool to get either support or trigger smaller fixes and developments. Andreas On 2016-02-08 23:01, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: > Hi again, > > Indeed, for us enterprise users a nice collection/overview of reasons for > working with and paying for FOSS (including a howto) could be really helpful > when discussing with decision makers. > > I remember Paolo had a post in that direction: > https://faunaliagis.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/6-reasons-to-pay-for-open-source-software/ > > A critical point might also be that it can be simply more easy, to use money > on proprietary software. You have probably only one local dealer, you get a > price and you know more or less what you get for your money. Once you made > your decision on a software, sat aside your annual license fees and accepted > that this has to be payed, things go more or less automatically... With the > legal entity, QGIS is maybe on a good way there. I could also imagine, that > the grouping the many feature requests into (crowd) fundable packages might > be helpful. In some cases the gentle push from a starting crowd funding > activity (or when it is about to end) can be enough to make people to use > some money... > > Cheers > Stefan > >> Good point. I keep meaning to write this up properly at some stage as a blog >> post, so keep the suggestions coming. I think it'd be useful to have all > >> this stuff outlined and explained so that people can make informed decisions >> about the best way to get their requests fulfilled. >> >> Nyall > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi again, Indeed, for us enterprise users a nice collection/overview of reasons for working with and paying for FOSS (including a howto) could be really helpful when discussing with decision makers. I remember Paolo had a post in that direction: https://faunaliagis.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/6-reasons-to-pay-for-open-source-software/ A critical point might also be that it can be simply more easy, to use money on proprietary software. You have probably only one local dealer, you get a price and you know more or less what you get for your money. Once you made your decision on a software, sat aside your annual license fees and accepted that this has to be payed, things go more or less automatically... With the legal entity, QGIS is maybe on a good way there. I could also imagine, that the grouping the many feature requests into (crowd) fundable packages might be helpful. In some cases the gentle push from a starting crowd funding activity (or when it is about to end) can be enough to make people to use some money... Cheers Stefan > Good point. I keep meaning to write this up properly at some stage as a blog > post, so keep the suggestions coming. I think it'd be useful to have all > > this stuff outlined and explained so that people can make informed decisions > about the best way to get their requests fulfilled. > > Nyall ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi Nyall, Richard, and Andreas, For me it is all fine if you give the hint on funding, just like Andreas did, knowing whom he is talking to. And I think he has a lot of valid points in his answer. Unfortunately, it is not always that simple, even for people using QGIS in bigger organizations, to mobilize money for things they like to see implemented (believe me, I wish it was)... On your list, Nyall, I would add Crowd funding as a fifth (and quite popular) way of getting things into QGIS. And of course all fife can be mixed to some extent... Anyway, keep up with your good work regardless if paid or voluntary. As I see it, the mix is what makes the project successful... Cheers Stefan From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson Sent: 8. februar 2016 21:20 To: Richard Duivenvoorde Cc: qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default On 9 Feb 2016 12:47 AM, "Richard Duivenvoorde" mailto:rdmaili...@duif.net>> wrote: > > On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > > > If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement > > this. It can't be very complicated to implement. > > Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that > QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on > QGIS. Well, the reality is that there's a very limited number of ways in which new features get implemented in QGIS: 1. Write it yourself. (Requires knowledge of QGIS source and c++) 2. Pay someone else to write it for you (requires money) 3. Wait for someone else to write/pay for it (requires patience and hope that your request is something someone else really needs) 4. Try to convince someone to donate their work/free time to do it for you (requires super levels of negotiating and finding the magic words to say to developers on irc/email/etc, or a project which is sufficiently interesting to attract a developer's attention regardless.) I don't think there's any other ways code gets added to QGIS. (Note that I'm *not* discounting all the non development volunteer/paid QGIS work, I'm just referring to how features can get added.) Given this, I think it's fine to direct people who request stuff to the most direct and reliable way to make changes happen - option 2 above. Just saying "file a feature request" alone isn't all that helpful (it's effectively options 3 or 4 above). It's also very helpful to also let them know how they can make these changes happen quickly. Nyall > > Regards, > > Richard > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
On 9 February 2016 at 08:06, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: > Hi Nyall, Richard, and Andreas, > > > > For me it is all fine if you give the hint on funding, just like Andreas > did, knowing whom he is talking to. And I think he has a lot of valid points > in his answer. > > > > Unfortunately, it is not always that simple, even for people using QGIS in > bigger organizations, to mobilize money for things they like to see > implemented (believe me, I wish it was)... Oh, I totally understand. I work in government too and have first-hand experience with this! > > On your list, Nyall, I would add Crowd funding as a fifth (and quite > popular) way of getting things into QGIS. And of course all fife can be > mixed to some extent... Good point. I keep meaning to write this up properly at some stage as a blog post, so keep the suggestions coming. I think it'd be useful to have all this stuff outlined and explained so that people can make informed decisions about the best way to get their requests fulfilled. Nyall > > > > Anyway, keep up with your good work regardless if paid or voluntary. As I > see it, the mix is what makes the project successful... > > > > Cheers > > Stefan > > > > > > > > From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of > Nyall Dawson > Sent: 8. februar 2016 21:20 > To: Richard Duivenvoorde > Cc: qgis-user > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default > > > > > On 9 Feb 2016 12:47 AM, "Richard Duivenvoorde" < > rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote: > >> >> On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote: >> > >> > If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement >> > this. It can't be very complicated to implement. >> >> Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that >> QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on >> QGIS. > > Well, the reality is that there's a very limited number of ways in which new > features get implemented in QGIS: > > 1. Write it yourself. (Requires knowledge of QGIS source and c++) > > 2. Pay someone else to write it for you (requires money) > > 3. Wait for someone else to write/pay for it (requires patience and hope > that your request is something someone else really needs) > > 4. Try to convince someone to donate their work/free time to do it for you > (requires super levels of negotiating and finding the magic words to say to > developers on irc/email/etc, or a project which is sufficiently interesting > to attract a developer's attention regardless.) > > I don't think there's any other ways code gets added to QGIS. > > (Note that I'm *not* discounting all the non development volunteer/paid QGIS > work, I'm just referring to how features can get added.) > > Given this, I think it's fine to direct people who request stuff to the most > direct and reliable way to make changes happen - option 2 above. Just saying > "file a feature request" alone isn't all that helpful (it's effectively > options 3 or 4 above). It's also very helpful to also let them know how they > can make these changes happen quickly. > > Nyall > >> >> Regards, >> >> Richard >> ___ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
On 9 Feb 2016 12:47 AM, "Richard Duivenvoorde" wrote: > > On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > > > If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement > > this. It can't be very complicated to implement. > > Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that > QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on > QGIS. Well, the reality is that there's a very limited number of ways in which new features get implemented in QGIS: 1. Write it yourself. (Requires knowledge of QGIS source and c++) 2. Pay someone else to write it for you (requires money) 3. Wait for someone else to write/pay for it (requires patience and hope that your request is something someone else really needs) 4. Try to convince someone to donate their work/free time to do it for you (requires super levels of negotiating and finding the magic words to say to developers on irc/email/etc, or a project which is sufficiently interesting to attract a developer's attention regardless.) I don't think there's any other ways code gets added to QGIS. (Note that I'm *not* discounting all the non development volunteer/paid QGIS work, I'm just referring to how features can get added.) Given this, I think it's fine to direct people who request stuff to the most direct and reliable way to make changes happen - option 2 above. Just saying "file a feature request" alone isn't all that helpful (it's effectively options 3 or 4 above). It's also very helpful to also let them know how they can make these changes happen quickly. Nyall > > Regards, > > Richard > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi, Andreas, I understand your point and agreed with you now that it's clear you know Stefan. But like Richard, I also get uncomfortable with such an assertion. I've already been told such a thing (twice actually). Though my company doesn't (can't?) finance any improvement in QGIS, I already spend time on bug reporting and doc writing. And when you're then told because you are asking for a bug fixing, "if you want it done just pay it", it sounds like any other contribution you might have done has no real value. Though I agree developers need money to improve QGIS, we should also better value time spent by volunteers. Regards 2016-02-08 15:12 GMT+01:00 Neumann, Andreas : > Hi Richard, > > There 1300! open feature requests in our bug queue. These features don't > get implemented by accident or on a voluntary basis (maybe some do). We > have to be realistic. If we want to have good progress, we better start > sponsoring features! > > I am not asking a poor guy from a development country to privately invest > into QGIS, but a government organization from one of the richest countries > in the world. I also happen to work for a gov agency (on province level in > Switzerland). I know that these organizations have enough money to invest > into such software - they also pay thousands/millions of Euros in licensing > fees for proprietary software. And by using OpenSource software they save a > lot and gain flexibility - and they can influence how the software they use > gets developed. I personally think, these organizations even have an > obligation to give something back to the OpenSource software they use! > > Don't you think that it is quite ok to politely ask such organizations to > contribute a little bit financially for features they have an interest in? > If there are many such organizations contributing together, we all profit > from each other - and the ones who cannot afford to contribute can still > use it as well. I have no problem with that. > > How do you think other OpenSource gets developed? Linux, LibreOffice, > Firefox, Apache, Postgres, Postgis, etc, etc. - do you think this all > happens solely from voluntary contributors? > > Already in 2010 75% of the contributions in the Linux kernel were > contributed by paid developers: > http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm/ I think it is safe to > assume that this figure is even higher in 2015. Do you think all of these > paid devs and the organizations who sponsor them are evil? > > Andreas > > On 2016-02-08 14:46, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > > If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement > this. It can't be very complicated to implement. > > > Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that > QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on > QGIS. > > Regards, > > Richard > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi Richard, There 1300! open feature requests in our bug queue. These features don't get implemented by accident or on a voluntary basis (maybe some do). We have to be realistic. If we want to have good progress, we better start sponsoring features! I am not asking a poor guy from a development country to privately invest into QGIS, but a government organization from one of the richest countries in the world. I also happen to work for a gov agency (on province level in Switzerland). I know that these organizations have enough money to invest into such software - they also pay thousands/millions of Euros in licensing fees for proprietary software. And by using OpenSource software they save a lot and gain flexibility - and they can influence how the software they use gets developed. I personally think, these organizations even have an obligation to give something back to the OpenSource software they use! Don't you think that it is quite ok to politely ask such organizations to contribute a little bit financially for features they have an interest in? If there are many such organizations contributing together, we all profit from each other - and the ones who cannot afford to contribute can still use it as well. I have no problem with that. How do you think other OpenSource gets developed? Linux, LibreOffice, Firefox, Apache, Postgres, Postgis, etc, etc. - do you think this all happens solely from voluntary contributors? Already in 2010 75% of the contributions in the Linux kernel were contributed by paid developers: http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm/ I think it is safe to assume that this figure is even higher in 2015. Do you think all of these paid devs and the organizations who sponsor them are evil? Andreas On 2016-02-08 14:46, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote: > >> If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement >> this. It can't be very complicated to implement. > > Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that > QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on > QGIS. > > Regards, > > Richard > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
On 08-02-16 14:37, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement > this. It can't be very complicated to implement. Can we please(!) stop saying this all the time. I still hope(d) that QGIS is a project where people work on a more or less idealistic way on QGIS. Regards, Richard ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi Stefan, I think it would be a useful setting to have "per layer". The QEP you mention is primarily about making the fields settings tab easier to use / splitting it up in two separate tabs. Perhaps it would be more useful to open a feature request for that (if none exists so far) than adding it to the QEP - which seems to deal with different issues. If this important to you - please consider sponsoring a dev to implement this. It can't be very complicated to implement. For the next QGIS release we will also contract with Matthias to do several enhancements to transactions/relations, forms and widgets. I can send you more details if you are interested. Andreas On 08.02.2016 14:12, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: Hi Andreas, Thanks for your answer! My use case is using QGIS as DB frontend where also non-spatial layers have to be edited and editing does not necessarily start with a geometry... Would you consider having such a setting a relevant enhancement? If so, should I open an enhancement ticket or add a comment to Matthias`s “Fields and Forms redesign”: https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/37 Cheers Stefan *From:*Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Neumann *Sent:* 8. februar 2016 14:00 *To:* qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default Hi Stefan, I don't know such a setting. And no - you did not overlook it. The only tool that opens the form view by default is the identify tool - if the checkbox is enabled that opens the form if there only one target. But then you can't easily switch to the table view.$ Andreas On 08.02.2016 13:19, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: Hi, Is there a setting where I can specify that an attribute table should be opened in form view by default? I tried searched both Layer properties and Setting options but did not find anything. Did I simply overlook it? Cheers Stefan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> List info:http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe:http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi Andreas, Thanks for your answer! My use case is using QGIS as DB frontend where also non-spatial layers have to be edited and editing does not necessarily start with a geometry... Would you consider having such a setting a relevant enhancement? If so, should I open an enhancement ticket or add a comment to Matthias`s “Fields and Forms redesign”: https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/37 Cheers Stefan From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann Sent: 8. februar 2016 14:00 To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default Hi Stefan, I don't know such a setting. And no - you did not overlook it. The only tool that opens the form view by default is the identify tool - if the checkbox is enabled that opens the form if there only one target. But then you can't easily switch to the table view.$ Andreas On 08.02.2016 13:19, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: Hi, Is there a setting where I can specify that an attribute table should be opened in form view by default? I tried searched both Layer properties and Setting options but did not find anything. Did I simply overlook it? Cheers Stefan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi Stefan, I don't know such a setting. And no - you did not overlook it. The only tool that opens the form view by default is the identify tool - if the checkbox is enabled that opens the form if there only one target. But then you can't easily switch to the table view.$ Andreas On 08.02.2016 13:19, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote: Hi, Is there a setting where I can specify that an attribute table should be opened in form view by default? I tried searched both Layer properties and Setting options but did not find anything. Did I simply overlook it? Cheers Stefan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] Open attribute table in form view by default
Hi, Is there a setting where I can specify that an attribute table should be opened in form view by default? I tried searched both Layer properties and Setting options but did not find anything. Did I simply overlook it? Cheers Stefan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
