Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets
Hi all, Device wise, we bought a load Samsun Galaxy Tab Active 3s (link below) for archaeology field work. Galaxy Tab Active 3 Tablet | View Specs | Samsung Business UK<https://www.samsung.com/uk/business/tablets/galaxy-tab-active/galaxy-tab-active3-t575-sm-t575nzkaeea/?cid=CY~UK_CH~PPC_PB~Google_1881025376_CN~FF~Eval:Product_Q122SMB_Tab+Active3_KS~PR_BS~BS_PR~B2B_SB~TAB+ACTIVE3_OB~TRAFFIC_FS~LO_AI~N_MT~EXA_CA~KEW=aw.ds=CjwKCAjwlqOXBhBqEiwA-hhitCEwzpKJrYy8hzSf0XYK_U-cgCMASXLjf8JpU4P8E2ouS7r81QoEAhoCWHwQAvD_BwE> My colleague, our archaeologist, has one that he takes out with him all the time that has all the reference datasets he needs (monuments, HER etc.) in QField. We’ve also used these tablets with volunteers for a LiDAR project. They happily dealt with a fairly hefty project, again in QField, with various visualisations of the data on and they also had to cope with some weather whilst we were out and about too.We’ve been very happy with them. They come with a ruggedised case and you can replace the batteries on them! (unheard of these days). Hope that’s helpful Phil From: QGIS-User On Behalf Of Stefan Giese (WhereGroup) via QGIS-User Sent: 20 February 2023 09:08 To: Phil Wyatt ; Chiz Harward Cc: qgis-user ML Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets WARNING: This email originated outside the organization. Please do not reply, click links, or open attachments unless you were expecting this email. in addition what Phil wrotes: Mergin Maps is also available for windows: https://github.com/MerginMaps/input/releases/tag/2.0.1 Best regards Stefan Am 20.02.2023 um 09:23 schrieb Phil Wyatt via QGIS-User: Hi folks, I would encourage you to also check out Mergin Maps that will work on IOS or Android devices. Maybe also spell out why Windows is required or where the apps fail. The developers may be able to assist in solving issues. Plenty more “rugged” devices available in Android or with rugged cases in IOS. I have used Panasonic tough books in the past but tablets or even phones are just so much more useful these days (depending on your use case) Cheers - Phil, On the road with his iPad On 20 Feb 2023, at 6:17 pm, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User <mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: Thanks all, weight is indeed an issue, and given I’ll be up a scaffold/down trenches, I’ll probably have a harness/strap of some sort to avoid dropping it... My GIS boffin has done some tests and test project is running fine on his 4GB RAM 56 GB tablet, so hoping can use a cheaper machine and with SSD thanks Chiz Harward BA MCIfA he/him Senior Archaeologist, Urban Archaeology Cathedral Archaeologist, Winchester I work flexibly - so whilst it suits me to email now, I do not expect a response or action outside of your own working hours http://urban-archaeology.blogspot.com<http://urban-archaeology.blogspot.com/> https://www.facebook.com/urb.arch/ http://gloscross-slabs.blogspot.co.uk/ Urban Archaeology 2 Slad View, Gaineys Well, Stroud, Gloucestershire GL5 1LQ 07881 486837 c...@urban-archaeology.co.uk<mailto:c...@urban-archaeology.co.uk> Urban Archaeology is a trading name of Chiz Harward BA MCIfA https://archaeology.co.uk/awards/rescue-project-of-the-year-2023.htm From: Jésahel Benoist <mailto:djes1...@gmail.com> Sent: 17 February 2023 18:04 To: rdmaili...@duif.net<mailto:rdmaili...@duif.net> Cc: Chiz Harward <mailto:c...@urban-archaeology.co.uk>; qgis-user ML <mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets Hi, We bought some years ago the Dell Rugged Extreme tablet and I want to say : test before buy ! Even if QGIS works flawlessly with big projects, the Windows "tablet" environment is just a pain, especially the virtual keyboards (plural form as Microsoft has been unable to give something polished so we're using two) Add to this that this real computer needs a lot of power, batteries, so is so heavy that that you need a necklace to handle it all day. But the worst is the "Rugged" definition. Could you imagine that there's fans, that they are accessible behind plastic to the most common and dangerous thing for fan on earth : dust. Look on the fourth picture to see the fan grid. https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/ordinateurs-portables/latitude-7220-rugged-extreme/spd/latitude-12-7220-tablet/xctol7220emea You see the point. Good luck and please share your finds. J. Benoist Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 14:50, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-User mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>> a écrit : I'm (just playing) with this tablet: ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen3 It comes with Windows, but I run Debian Testing on it and I really like it, even the use of the pen. Not sure about ruggedized cases for it though. I'm afraid you will end up with the normal ruggedized Windows tablets which are available (and pretty expensive)? Regards, Richard Duiven
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets
in addition what Phil wrotes: Mergin Maps is also available for windows: https://github.com/MerginMaps/input/releases/tag/2.0.1 Best regards Stefan Am 20.02.2023 um 09:23 schrieb Phil Wyatt via QGIS-User: Hi folks, I would encourage you to also check out Mergin Maps that will work on IOS or Android devices. Maybe also spell out why Windows is required or where the apps fail. The developers may be able to assist in solving issues. Plenty more “rugged” devices available in Android or with rugged cases in IOS. I have used Panasonic tough books in the past but tablets or even phones are just so much more useful these days (depending on your use case) Cheers - Phil, On the road with his iPad On 20 Feb 2023, at 6:17 pm, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote: Thanks all, weight is indeed an issue, and given I’ll be up a scaffold/down trenches, I’ll probably have a harness/strap of some sort to avoid dropping it... My GIS boffin has done some tests and test project is running fine on his 4GB RAM 56 GB tablet, so hoping can use a cheaper machine and with SSD thanks Chiz Harward BA MCIfA he/him Senior Archaeologist, Urban Archaeology Cathedral Archaeologist, Winchester I work flexibly - so whilst it suits me to email now, I do not expect a response or action outside of your own working hours http://urban-archaeology.blogspot.com https://www.facebook.com/urb.arch/ http://gloscross-slabs.blogspot.co.uk/ Urban Archaeology 2 Slad View, Gaineys Well, Stroud, Gloucestershire GL5 1LQ 07881 486837 c...@urban-archaeology.co.uk Urban Archaeology is a trading name of Chiz Harward BA MCIfA https://archaeology.co.uk/awards/rescue-project-of-the-year-2023.htm *From:*Jésahel Benoist *Sent:* 17 February 2023 18:04 *To:* rdmaili...@duif.net *Cc:* Chiz Harward ; qgis-user ML *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets Hi, We bought some years ago the Dell Rugged Extreme tablet and I want to say : test before buy ! Even if QGIS works flawlessly with big projects, the Windows "tablet" environment is just a pain, especially the virtual keyboards (plural form as Microsoft has been unable to give something polished so we're using two) Add to this that this real computer needs a lot of power, batteries, so is so heavy that that you need a necklace to handle it all day. But the worst is the "Rugged" definition. Could you imagine that there's fans, that they are accessible behind plastic to the most common and dangerous thing for fan on earth : dust. Look on the fourth picture to see the fan grid. https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/ordinateurs-portables/latitude-7220-rugged-extreme/spd/latitude-12-7220-tablet/xctol7220emea You see the point. Good luck and please share your finds. J. Benoist Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 14:50, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-User a écrit : I'm (just playing) with this tablet: ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen3 It comes with Windows, but I run Debian Testing on it and I really like it, even the use of the pen. Not sure about ruggedized cases for it though. I'm afraid you will end up with the normal ruggedized Windows tablets which are available (and pretty expensive)? Regards, Richard Duivenvoorde On 2/17/23 14:43, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for suggestions/spec for a Windows* tablet** that can run QGIS during data collection and recording on archaeological sites (dusty, sometimes damp). The work is recording simple attributes and short text comments onto shapefiles of e.g. wall elevations (up to 20,000 polygons, although these could be split up). There will be geo-tif orthophotos of the wall elevations/plans as well, although these could be lo-res. All processing and analysis will be done in office on a desktop, tablet is just for recording. > > Need a tablet that can work rapidly without beachballing between commands or when pan across mapping. SSD, 8GB RAM enough? Any advice appreciated, > > *QField is not suitable for this project > > **must be a tablet that can fit in a ruggedised case, laptops are no good for the work > > Best wishes > > > Chiz > > > ___ > QGIS-User mailing list > QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets
Hi folks,I would encourage you to also check out Mergin Maps that will work on IOS or Android devices. Maybe also spell out why Windows is required or where the apps fail. The developers may be able to assist in solving issues. Plenty more “rugged” devices available in Android or with rugged cases in IOS.I have used Panasonic tough books in the past but tablets or even phones are just so much more useful these days (depending on your use case)Cheers - Phil, On the road with his iPad On 20 Feb 2023, at 6:17 pm, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote: Thanks all, weight is indeed an issue, and given I’ll be up a scaffold/down trenches, I’ll probably have a harness/strap of some sort to avoid dropping it... My GIS boffin has done some tests and test project is running fine on his 4GB RAM 56 GB tablet, so hoping can use a cheaper machine and with SSD thanks Chiz Harward BA MCIfA he/him Senior Archaeologist, Urban Archaeology Cathedral Archaeologist, Winchester I work flexibly - so whilst it suits me to email now, I do not expect a response or action outside of your own working hours http://urban-archaeology.blogspot.com https://www.facebook.com/urb.arch/ http://gloscross-slabs.blogspot.co.uk/ Urban Archaeology 2 Slad View, Gaineys Well, Stroud, Gloucestershire GL5 1LQ 07881 486837 c...@urban-archaeology.co.uk Urban Archaeology is a trading name of Chiz Harward BA MCIfA https://archaeology.co.uk/awards/rescue-project-of-the-year-2023.htm From: Jésahel Benoist Sent: 17 February 2023 18:04 To: rdmaili...@duif.net Cc: Chiz Harward ; qgis-user ML Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets Hi, We bought some years ago the Dell Rugged Extreme tablet and I want to say : test before buy ! Even if QGIS works flawlessly with big projects, the Windows "tablet" environment is just a pain, especially the virtual keyboards (plural form as Microsoft has been unable to give something polished so we're using two) Add to this that this real computer needs a lot of power, batteries, so is so heavy that that you need a necklace to handle it all day. But the worst is the "Rugged" definition. Could you imagine that there's fans, that they are accessible behind plastic to the most common and dangerous thing for fan on earth : dust. Look on the fourth picture to see the fan grid. https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/ordinateurs-portables/latitude-7220-rugged-extreme/spd/latitude-12-7220-tablet/xctol7220emea You see the point. Good luck and please share your finds. J. Benoist Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 14:50, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-User <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit : I'm (just playing) with this tablet: ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen3 It comes with Windows, but I run Debian Testing on it and I really like it, even the use of the pen. Not sure about ruggedized cases for it though. I'm afraid you will end up with the normal ruggedized Windows tablets which are available (and pretty expensive)? Regards, Richard Duivenvoorde On 2/17/23 14:43, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for suggestions/spec for a Windows* tablet** that can run QGIS during data collection and recording on archaeological sites (dusty, sometimes damp). The work is recording simple attributes and short text comments onto shapefiles of e.g. wall elevations (up to 20,000 polygons, although these could be split up). There will be geo-tif orthophotos of the wall elevations/plans as well, although these could be lo-res. All processing and analysis will be done in office on a desktop, tablet is just for recording. > > Need a tablet that can work rapidly without beachballing between commands or when pan across mapping. SSD, 8GB RAM enough? Any advice appreciated, > > *QField is not suitable for this project > > **must be a tablet that can fit in a ruggedised case, laptops are no good for the work > > Best wishes > > > Chiz > > > ___ > QGIS-User mailing list > QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___QGIS-User mailing listQGIS-User@lists.osgeo.orgList info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-userUnsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets
Hi, We bought some years ago the Dell Rugged Extreme tablet and I want to say : test before buy ! Even if QGIS works flawlessly with big projects, the Windows "tablet" environment is just a pain, especially the virtual keyboards (plural form as Microsoft has been unable to give something polished so we're using two) Add to this that this real computer needs a lot of power, batteries, so is so heavy that that you need a necklace to handle it all day. But the worst is the "Rugged" definition. Could you imagine that there's fans, that they are accessible behind plastic to the most common and dangerous thing for fan on earth : dust. Look on the fourth picture to see the fan grid. https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/ordinateurs-portables/latitude-7220-rugged-extreme/spd/latitude-12-7220-tablet/xctol7220emea You see the point. Good luck and please share your finds. J. Benoist Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 14:50, Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-User < qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit : > I'm (just playing) with this tablet: ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen3 > It comes with Windows, but I run Debian Testing on it and I really like > it, even the use of the pen. > Not sure about ruggedized cases for it though. > > I'm afraid you will end up with the normal ruggedized Windows tablets > which are available (and pretty expensive)? > > Regards, > > Richard Duivenvoorde > > On 2/17/23 14:43, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for suggestions/spec for a Windows* tablet** that can run > QGIS during data collection and recording on archaeological sites (dusty, > sometimes damp). The work is recording simple attributes and short text > comments onto shapefiles of e.g. wall elevations (up to 20,000 polygons, > although these could be split up). There will be geo-tif orthophotos of the > wall elevations/plans as well, although these could be lo-res. All > processing and analysis will be done in office on a desktop, tablet is just > for recording. > > > > Need a tablet that can work rapidly without beachballing between > commands or when pan across mapping. SSD, 8GB RAM enough? Any advice > appreciated, > > > > *QField is not suitable for this project > > > > **must be a tablet that can fit in a ruggedised case, laptops are no > good for the work > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Chiz > > > > > > ___ > > QGIS-User mailing list > > QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org > > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > ___ > QGIS-User mailing list > QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets
I'm (just playing) with this tablet: ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen3 It comes with Windows, but I run Debian Testing on it and I really like it, even the use of the pen. Not sure about ruggedized cases for it though. I'm afraid you will end up with the normal ruggedized Windows tablets which are available (and pretty expensive)? Regards, Richard Duivenvoorde On 2/17/23 14:43, Chiz Harward via QGIS-User wrote: Hi, I am looking for suggestions/spec for a Windows* tablet** that can run QGIS during data collection and recording on archaeological sites (dusty, sometimes damp). The work is recording simple attributes and short text comments onto shapefiles of e.g. wall elevations (up to 20,000 polygons, although these could be split up). There will be geo-tif orthophotos of the wall elevations/plans as well, although these could be lo-res. All processing and analysis will be done in office on a desktop, tablet is just for recording. Need a tablet that can work rapidly without beachballing between commands or when pan across mapping. SSD, 8GB RAM enough? Any advice appreciated, *QField is not suitable for this project **must be a tablet that can fit in a ruggedised case, laptops are no good for the work Best wishes Chiz ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] QGIS on tablets
Hi, I am looking for suggestions/spec for a Windows* tablet** that can run QGIS during data collection and recording on archaeological sites (dusty, sometimes damp). The work is recording simple attributes and short text comments onto shapefiles of e.g. wall elevations (up to 20,000 polygons, although these could be split up). There will be geo-tif orthophotos of the wall elevations/plans as well, although these could be lo-res. All processing and analysis will be done in office on a desktop, tablet is just for recording. Need a tablet that can work rapidly without beachballing between commands or when pan across mapping. SSD, 8GB RAM enough? Any advice appreciated, *QField is not suitable for this project **must be a tablet that can fit in a ruggedised case, laptops are no good for the work Best wishes Chiz ___ QGIS-User mailing list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
