Re: [Qgis-user] Recognition of QGIS feature funders - and developers?
Fair comments from both Andreas and Jurgen (below). I was merely trying to see if we should also be looking after the efforts of the quiet self funded developer in the back room. Regards, Zoltan On 2014/07/04 09:48, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: Hi Zoltan, On Fri, 04. Jul 2014 at 09:07:12 +0200, Zoltan Szecsei wrote: Whilst recognising the immense importance of financial funding, surely there are quite a few developers out there that have added to Open Source by giving their own time without receiving any remuneration whatsoever. That and/or are doing it on their employers time without being contracted by a customer. Perhaps a "bar-counter" showing the number of source-code lines contributed in the last "rolling 12 month" period - maybe for the top 10 contributors only? That's not as easy as it sounds. There are bulk changes (eg. indentation) that would probably attribute lines to people who didn't do the code - otoh those maintainance task should also get recognition, although LOC does make even less sense there (same for refactoring to remove clutter and thereby reduce LOC). Jürgen -- === Zoltan Szecsei PrGISc [PGP0031] Geograph (Pty) Ltd. GIS and Photogrammetric Services P.O. Box 7, Muizenberg 7950, South Africa. Mobile: +27-83-6004028 Fax:+27-86-6115323 www.geograph.co.za === ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Recognition of QGIS feature funders - and developers?
Hi Zoltan, On Fri, 04. Jul 2014 at 09:07:12 +0200, Zoltan Szecsei wrote: > Whilst recognising the immense importance of financial funding, surely there > are quite a few developers out there that have added to Open Source by > giving their own time without receiving any remuneration whatsoever. That and/or are doing it on their employers time without being contracted by a customer. > Perhaps a "bar-counter" showing the number of source-code lines contributed > in the last "rolling 12 month" period - maybe for the top 10 contributors > only? That's not as easy as it sounds. There are bulk changes (eg. indentation) that would probably attribute lines to people who didn't do the code - otoh those maintainance task should also get recognition, although LOC does make even less sense there (same for refactoring to remove clutter and thereby reduce LOC). Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Recognition of QGIS feature funders - and developers?
Hi Zoltan, I believe the developers, contributors and translators get their recognition already. Their names are listed in the about box of our software. In addition you can read their names on github. I would not list number of source code lines or number of commits, because this is meaningless. Already a few lines of codes may mean a huge improvement, while a ton of other lines may not be that important. E.g. if someone checks in a lot of SVGs this definitely not as much work like a sophisticated algorithm dealing with geoprocessing. I don't think that developers really care about who contribute how many lines of codes - and if you are interested in that you can already look it up on github. They provide all sorts of fancy graphics. -- The whole discussion is not one against the other - and who gets the most recognition. It is simply about a multiplier effect. Say that a well-known organization like a province, a national mapping agency or well-known company is sponsoring a feature. This will surely help other organizations to fund other features. Right now some people/organizations may have the impression that QGIS is more or less all based on voluntary work, while we are currently moving more and more to paid work - which is good in my opinion. There is only that much you can do with voluntary work. QGIS already has surpassed a threshold in popularity and organizations rely on it that we can't support this all with voluntary work only. A lot of OS projects work this way: PostgreSQL, Linux, Apache, LibreOffice - the bulk of these projects are run by paid staff. But there is still the opportunity of voluntary work to be added. And who knows - you may start as a voluntary contributor and by your voluntary contributions you may have the opportunity to get paid contracts. Andreas Am 04.07.2014 07:07, schrieb Zoltan Szecsei: > Hi, > I've been following this thread with great interest. > > Whilst recognising the immense importance of financial funding, surely > there are quite a few developers out there that have added to Open > Source by giving their own time without receiving any remuneration > whatsoever. > > I accept that it will be very difficult to measure one developer's > efforts against another, but surely they should get as much recognition > as the guys throwing money at this project? > > Perhaps a "bar-counter" showing the number of source-code lines > contributed in the last "rolling 12 month" period - maybe for the top 10 > contributors only? > > Just a thought. > Regards to all, > Zoltan > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Recognition of QGIS feature funders - and developers?
Hi, I've been following this thread with great interest. Whilst recognising the immense importance of financial funding, surely there are quite a few developers out there that have added to Open Source by giving their own time without receiving any remuneration whatsoever. I accept that it will be very difficult to measure one developer's efforts against another, but surely they should get as much recognition as the guys throwing money at this project? Perhaps a "bar-counter" showing the number of source-code lines contributed in the last "rolling 12 month" period - maybe for the top 10 contributors only? Just a thought. Regards to all, Zoltan -- === Zoltan Szecsei PrGISc [PGP0031] Geograph (Pty) Ltd. GIS and Photogrammetric Services P.O. Box 7, Muizenberg 7950, South Africa. Mobile: +27-83-6004028 Fax:+27-86-6115323 www.geograph.co.za === ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user