Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Andreas Neumann 
Hi, 

Thanks Jonathan and others for your feedback. 


It is done - see
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/commit/bdcf0e51cff5c90051c9a01f6b7beb3759dd
and will appear with the next nightly website update. 


Background: I guess this wording comes from the fact that we were trying
to get non-profit status back then (about 3-4 years) and the term
"donation" sounded more acceptable to us for tax authorities to accept
non-profit status. Meanwhile the request for non-profit status was
rejected anyway and it is also clear that any services around
"education" in Switzerland aren't subject to VAT taxation anyway. 


This denial of non-profit status by the Swiss (Zurich)-based tax
authorities doesn't change our behavior. We, as QGIS.ORG, still behave
and act as like we would  be a non-profit - this is also written down in
our charter. In our country and province of our domicile, in
Zurich/Switzerland, all open source foundations and associations in
general can't get non-profit status. And even if we would get it, it
would mean an awful lot of restrictions - e.g. we couldn't pay
developers for bug fixing, etc. 


Hope this clarifies a bit why this wording ended up like this in the
beginning (and apparently was never corrected). 

Andreas 


On 2020-07-17 12:03, Jonathan Moules wrote:


+1
"certification fee" makes more sense.

On 2020-07-17 10:01, Ben Hur Pintor wrote: 
+1 to Andreas' proposal as well.  

I also use the term "certification fee" when advertising training courses or charging clients. 

All the best, 
Ben Hur 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 16:09 Ujaval Gandhi  wrote: 
+1 to Andreas's suggestion. A certification fee is more appropriate.


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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:55 PM Andreas Neumann  wrote: 

probably something like 

... required to pay a EUR20 certification fee to the QGIS project. 

I agree - a required donation seems a bit odd. 

On 2020-07-17 08:59, Luigi Pirelli wrote: 


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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules  wrote: On the certification page: 
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:


"If approved you are required to make a EUR20 donation to the QGIS project 
for each certificate."


Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because 
it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".


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Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Jonathan Moules 

+1
"certification fee" makes more sense.

On 2020-07-17 10:01, Ben Hur Pintor wrote:

+1 to Andreas' proposal as well.

I also use the term "certification fee" when advertising training 
courses or charging clients.


All the best,
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 16:09 Ujaval Gandhi > wrote:


+1 to Andreas's suggestion. A certification fee is more appropriate.
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:55 PM Andreas Neumann
mailto:a.neum...@carto.net>> wrote:

probably something like

... required to pay a €20 certification fee to the QGIS project.

I agree - a required donation seems a bit odd.

On 2020-07-17 08:59, Luigi Pirelli wrote:


what's your proposal?
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules
mailto:jonathan-li...@lightpear.com>> wrote:

On the certification page:
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html
I see this:

"If approved you are required to make a €20 donation to
the QGIS project
for each certificate."

Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a
typo? Because
it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".


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Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Ben Hur Pintor 
+1 to Andreas' proposal as well.

I also use the term "certification fee" when advertising training courses
or charging clients.

All the best,
Ben Hur

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 16:09 Ujaval Gandhi 
wrote:

> +1 to Andreas's suggestion. A certification fee is more appropriate.
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> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:55 PM Andreas Neumann 
> wrote:
>
>> probably something like
>>
>> ... required to pay a €20 certification fee to the QGIS project.
>>
>> I agree - a required donation seems a bit odd.
>>
>> On 2020-07-17 08:59, Luigi Pirelli wrote:
>>
>> what's your proposal?
>>
>> Luigi Pirelli
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules <
>> jonathan-li...@lightpear.com> wrote:
>>
>> On the certification page:
>> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:
>>
>> "If approved you are required to make a €20 donation to the QGIS project
>> for each certificate."
>>
>> Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because
>> it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Ujaval Gandhi 
+1 to Andreas's suggestion. A certification fee is more appropriate.
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:55 PM Andreas Neumann 
wrote:

> probably something like
>
> ... required to pay a €20 certification fee to the QGIS project.
>
> I agree - a required donation seems a bit odd.
>
> On 2020-07-17 08:59, Luigi Pirelli wrote:
>
> what's your proposal?
>
> Luigi Pirelli
>
>
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> 
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>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules <
> jonathan-li...@lightpear.com> wrote:
>
> On the certification page:
> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:
>
> "If approved you are required to make a €20 donation to the QGIS project
> for each certificate."
>
> Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because
> it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".
>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Andreas Neumann 
probably something like 

... required to pay a EUR20 certification fee to the QGIS project. 

I agree - a required donation seems a bit odd. 


On 2020-07-17 08:59, Luigi Pirelli wrote:


what's your proposal?

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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules  wrote: 

On the certification page: 
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:


"If approved you are required to make a EUR20 donation to the QGIS project 
for each certificate."


Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because 
it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".


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Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Charles Dixon-Paver 
If approved you are required to make a donation greater than or equal to
€20 for each certificate, which is to be paid to the [QGIS.ORG
not-for-profit association](
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter/index.html).

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 08:59, Luigi Pirelli  wrote:

> what's your proposal?
>
> Luigi Pirelli
>
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> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules <
> jonathan-li...@lightpear.com> wrote:
>
>> On the certification page:
>> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:
>>
>> "If approved you are required to make a €20 donation to the QGIS project
>> for each certificate."
>>
>> Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because
>> it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-17 Thread Luigi Pirelli 
what's your proposal?

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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 20:59, Jonathan Moules 
wrote:

> On the certification page:
> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:
>
> "If approved you are required to make a €20 donation to the QGIS project
> for each certificate."
>
> Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because
> it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".
>
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[Qgis-user] Typo? "required ... donation" for training certificates?

2020-07-16 Thread Jonathan Moules 
On the certification page: 
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/certification.html I see this:


"If approved you are required to make a €20 donation to the QGIS project 
for each certificate."


Is the word use "donation" intentional there, or merely a typo? Because 
it's a bit of an oxymoron to have a "required" "donation".



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