Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-10-25 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 30/09/2011 14:49, adams ha scritto:

 Therefore I think the print-composer of QGIS is very helpful, there was
 also a talk at FOSS4G recently, dealing with making maps with QGIS and
 Inkscape:
 
 http://2011.foss4g.org/sessions/quantum-gis-inkscape-cartographic-tools-attractive-maps
 
 I think very soon you might get the presentations lsides and also a
 video of the presentation itself.

Still no slides available, AFAICT.
Anyone knows when they will be available?
Thanks.

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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-10-25 Thread Alex Mandel
On 10/25/2011 12:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
 Il 30/09/2011 14:49, adams ha scritto:
 
 Therefore I think the print-composer of QGIS is very helpful, there was
 also a talk at FOSS4G recently, dealing with making maps with QGIS and
 Inkscape:

 http://2011.foss4g.org/sessions/quantum-gis-inkscape-cartographic-tools-attractive-maps

 I think very soon you might get the presentations lsides and also a
 video of the presentation itself.
 
 Still no slides available, AFAICT.
 Anyone knows when they will be available?
 Thanks.
 

No, but it seems there is a need to follow up with the organizing
committee. I'll mention it to some people on the conference committee
and see what they say.

In the mean time that particular presentation is available elsewhere:
https://sites.google.com/site/mtobiasresearch/presentations

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-10-25 Thread G. Allegri
Thanks Alex. I tweeted it ;)

giovanni

2011/10/25 Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com

 On 10/25/2011 12:55 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
  Il 30/09/2011 14:49, adams ha scritto:
 
  Therefore I think the print-composer of QGIS is very helpful, there was
  also a talk at FOSS4G recently, dealing with making maps with QGIS and
  Inkscape:
 
 
 http://2011.foss4g.org/sessions/quantum-gis-inkscape-cartographic-tools-attractive-maps
 
  I think very soon you might get the presentations lsides and also a
  video of the presentation itself.
 
  Still no slides available, AFAICT.
  Anyone knows when they will be available?
  Thanks.
 

 No, but it seems there is a need to follow up with the organizing
 committee. I'll mention it to some people on the conference committee
 and see what they say.

 In the mean time that particular presentation is available elsewhere:
 https://sites.google.com/site/mtobiasresearch/presentations

 Thanks,
 Alex
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Alex Mandel
On 09/29/2011 11:12 PM, Emile Peek wrote:
 
 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.
 
 What is the Grass database? What can I retrieve from it? Maps, sure, but what 
 kind of maps? What is the scope of the GRASS database?
 
 What goes for GRass goes for other databases as well? What is on those 
 databases? Where can I find that kind of information? 
 
 Answering my questions would mean much to me because right now I am 
 struggling.
 
 Emile.
 
 

GRASS is a geospatial analysis framework and toolset. The GRASS database
is custom formats specifically geared toward such analysis tasks and is
not suitable for anything else.

QGIS is a visualization and analysis front end which can hook into many
backends, GRASS, postgis, spatialite, multitude of python plugins, and
soon SAGA and OTB toolboxes (I'm sure I missed some things).

You can only retrieve data that is some reworking of what you put into
it. Example, given an elevation dataset you can generate a hillshade to
put behind other map layers. It does not come with data (other than a
few samples)

It might be most useful for you to look at the some slides and papers on
QGIS  Inkscape for cartography.

The most important difference here is that maps made with QGIS can
contain real data that is referenced to a real place on earth in such a
way that you can give that data to other people and it will show up in
the same place on earth in their viewer - be it QGIS, ArcGIS, Openlayers
or any other geospatial map viewing product.

Enjoy,
Alex
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 2011-09-30 08:12, Emile Peek wrote:
 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.

Hi Emile,

I'm not into GRASS, but for your info:

I've been working with Hugo Lopes (in cc) to make wikimedia maps with
qgis and svg: see for example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Resources/QGis_lesson_3:_Raster_to_vector_and_Change_projection#Export_GIS_Vectors_.26_Raster_layers_to_SVG_.28100.25.29

We have tried to make a plugin to make it possible to export (simple)
maps as svg in a way that editing in inkscape is easier (keep features
of a class in one group, keep features in a layer, naming a group the
name of a layer, naming a point the label name etc etc).

Maybe this can be usefull also.

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread adams
Hi Emile,

just for making maps you for sure do not need GRASS, GRASS is the
Geographic Raster Analysis Support System - a GIS tool for real
working with GIS data, but definetely not for creating nice maps... ;-)

Therefore I think the print-composer of QGIS is very helpful, there was
also a talk at FOSS4G recently, dealing with making maps with QGIS and
Inkscape:

http://2011.foss4g.org/sessions/quantum-gis-inkscape-cartographic-tools-attractive-maps

I think very soon you might get the presentations lsides and also a
video of the presentation itself.

Regards, Till




On 30.09.2011 14:18, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
 On 2011-09-30 08:12, Emile Peek wrote:
 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.
 
 Hi Emile,
 
 I'm not into GRASS, but for your info:
 
 I've been working with Hugo Lopes (in cc) to make wikimedia maps with
 qgis and svg: see for example
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Resources/QGis_lesson_3:_Raster_to_vector_and_Change_projection#Export_GIS_Vectors_.26_Raster_layers_to_SVG_.28100.25.29
 
 We have tried to make a plugin to make it possible to export (simple)
 maps as svg in a way that editing in inkscape is easier (keep features
 of a class in one group, keep features in a layer, naming a group the
 name of a layer, naming a point the label name etc etc).
 
 Maybe this can be usefull also.
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Alex Mandel
Take a class or workshop at a local school, or read a few intro
books.(http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781934356067.do)

You could also start with the QGIS Manual, or the QGIS Gentle
Introduction pdf (both on qgis.org).

Thanks,
Alex

On 09/30/2011 04:29 AM, Emile Peek wrote:
 
 What I am really trying to say is that I don't know where to start studying 
 GIS. 
 What can you advise me to study so that I can get a working grasp (instead of 
 a theoretical one) of the possibilities of GIS?
 
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:21:22 -0700
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 To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

 On 09/29/2011 11:12 PM, Emile Peek wrote:

 I am a newbie and I am regularly making maps on Wikimedia Commons with 
 Inkscape. I am trying to make sense of Qgis and the many possibilities it 
 offers but to no avail.

 What is the Grass database? What can I retrieve from it? Maps, sure, but 
 what kind of maps? What is the scope of the GRASS database?

 What goes for GRass goes for other databases as well? What is on those 
 databases? Where can I find that kind of information? 

 Answering my questions would mean much to me because right now I am 
 struggling.

 Emile.

   

 GRASS is a geospatial analysis framework and toolset. The GRASS database
 is custom formats specifically geared toward such analysis tasks and is
 not suitable for anything else.

 QGIS is a visualization and analysis front end which can hook into many
 backends, GRASS, postgis, spatialite, multitude of python plugins, and
 soon SAGA and OTB toolboxes (I'm sure I missed some things).

 You can only retrieve data that is some reworking of what you put into
 it. Example, given an elevation dataset you can generate a hillshade to
 put behind other map layers. It does not come with data (other than a
 few samples)

 It might be most useful for you to look at the some slides and papers on
 QGIS  Inkscape for cartography.

 The most important difference here is that maps made with QGIS can
 contain real data that is referenced to a real place on earth in such a
 way that you can give that data to other people and it will show up in
 the same place on earth in their viewer - be it QGIS, ArcGIS, Openlayers
 or any other geospatial map viewing product.

 Enjoy,
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Re: [Qgis-user] What is GrASS really?

2011-09-30 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2011/9/30 adams ad...@terrestris.de:
 just for making maps you for sure do not need GRASS, GRASS is the
 Geographic Raster Analysis Support System - a GIS tool for real
 working with GIS data, but definetely not for creating nice maps... ;-)

that's not really true, see wxGUI Cartographic Composer [1] and ps.map
module [2] ;-)

Martin

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Cartographic_Composer
[2] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/ps.map.html

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