Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[Nicola Poles]

It reads the datasource and updates the layer accordingly, including the
coordinates and all the attributes.



On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner  wrote:

> Hi Nicola,
>
> I guess this will only redraw the features in the mapcanvas, but not
> necessarily read the datasource file, but I'm not sure about this.
>
> Marco
>
> Am 18.09.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Nicola Poles:
> > To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
> > press the "F5" key
> >
> > Nicola
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape -
> > differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource -
> qgis-
> > communication goes.
> >
> > Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
> > automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
> > edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is better
> for
> > sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events)
> QGIS
> > requests features from the datasources.
> >
> > As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
> > (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor
> folders
> > and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well it
> > does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but
> adding
> > this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could
> also
> > be notified when a layers file changed.
> >
> > But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the (re)loading
> of
> > an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
> > (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?
> >
> > Marco
> >
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> Protection
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> Systems
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Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Delazj,

Yes - I was assuming that people would use the "Add delimited text layer 
tool". Sorry - I forgot to mention that. It is more flexible and easier 
to use than the "Add vector layer" dialogue.


About CSV, joins and updates: have you checked the cache vs. uncached 
option for your joins?


Andreas

On 18.09.2015 11:47, DelazJ wrote:

Hi,
Andreas, unless you add the csv file with "Add delimited text layer" 
tool, I'm afraid there's not a "watch file" option available.


I just add a csv file to a qgis project with "add a vector layer" 
tool. I open the same csv in a text editor and change some values. 
While reopening the csv file attribute table in QGIS, values were 
already uptodate. I've done nothing special. So I'm not sure if QGIS 
requiers a particular action to sync data.
But what seems buggy is that even if the csv file attribue table is 
updated in QGIS, if this csv was joined to a shapefile, the changes 
won't be applied in the shapefile's attribute table. Can someone confirm?

I can't get changes with the "Refresh" button.

Tested with qgis ltr 2.8.3


2015-09-18 10:38 GMT+02:00 Andreas Neumann >:


Hi Marco,

If you have the "watch file" option of your CSV file active it
will reread data  when file content changes and when your redraw
your map (either through navigation or redraw button).

I guess you could also write a small Python script if you want to
automatically trigger an update at a given interval. Maybe there
is already a plugin available - I did not look.

Andreas


On 18.09.2015 10:15, Dr. Marco Lechner wrote:

Hi Nicola,

I guess this will only redraw the features in the mapcanvas, but not
necessarily read the datasource file, but I'm not sure about this.

Marco

Am 18.09.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Nicola Poles:

To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
press the "F5" key

Nicola

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner 
 > wrote:

 Hi,

 how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape -
 differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource - 
qgis-
 communication goes.

 Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
 automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
 edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is better for
 sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events) QGIS
 requests features from the datasources.

 As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
 (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor folders
 and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well it
 does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but 
adding
 this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could also
 be notified when a layers file changed.

 But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the (re)loading of
 an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
 (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?

 Marco

 --
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 Bundesamt fuer Strahlenschutz / Federal Office for Radiation Protection
 SW2.1 Koordination Notfallschutzsysteme / Coordination Emergency 
Systems
 Rosastrasse 9 | D-79098 Freiburg | Germany
 mlech...@bfs.de    
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Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[Dr. Marco Lechner]

Hi Nicola,

I guess this will only redraw the features in the mapcanvas, but not
necessarily read the datasource file, but I'm not sure about this.

Marco

Am 18.09.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Nicola Poles:
> To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
> press the "F5" key
> 
> Nicola
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape -
> differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource - qgis-
> communication goes.
> 
> Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
> automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
> edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is better for
> sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events) QGIS
> requests features from the datasources.
> 
> As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
> (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor folders
> and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well it
> does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but adding
> this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could also
> be notified when a layers file changed.
> 
> But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the (re)loading of
> an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
> (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?
> 
> Marco
> 
> --
> Dr. Marco Lechner
> Bundesamt fuer Strahlenschutz / Federal Office for Radiation Protection
> SW2.1 Koordination Notfallschutzsysteme / Coordination Emergency Systems
> Rosastrasse 9 | D-79098 Freiburg | Germany
> mlech...@bfs.de  | +49 (0)3018 333 6724
>  | www.bfs.de 
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Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Marco,

If you have the "watch file" option of your CSV file active it will 
reread data  when file content changes and when your redraw your map 
(either through navigation or redraw button).


I guess you could also write a small Python script if you want to 
automatically trigger an update at a given interval. Maybe there is 
already a plugin available - I did not look.


Andreas

On 18.09.2015 10:15, Dr. Marco Lechner wrote:

Hi Nicola,

I guess this will only redraw the features in the mapcanvas, but not
necessarily read the datasource file, but I'm not sure about this.

Marco

Am 18.09.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Nicola Poles:

To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
press the "F5" key

Nicola

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner > wrote:

 Hi,

 how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape -
 differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource - qgis-
 communication goes.

 Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
 automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
 edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is better for
 sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events) QGIS
 requests features from the datasources.

 As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
 (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor folders
 and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well it
 does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but adding
 this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could also
 be notified when a layers file changed.

 But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the (re)loading of
 an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
 (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?

 Marco

 --
 Dr. Marco Lechner
 Bundesamt fuer Strahlenschutz / Federal Office for Radiation Protection
 SW2.1 Koordination Notfallschutzsysteme / Coordination Emergency Systems
 Rosastrasse 9 | D-79098 Freiburg | Germany
 mlech...@bfs.de  | +49 (0)3018 333 6724
  | www.bfs.de 

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Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[Dr. Marco Lechner]

Hi,

just for my better understanding: is the "Add delimited text layer" at
its end using libogr anyway? We use the Option - I just did not know
about the "watch file" Option.

Does
QgsMapLayerRegistry.instance().mapLayer(u'mylayer201509181234').triggerRepaint()
reread the features of any filebased datasource (e.g. shape) as well? in
that case it was very simple to create a watch-it plugin for any
file-based vector-(and raster?)-datasource.

Marco

Am 18.09.2015 um 11:57 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
> Hi Delazj,
> 
> Yes - I was assuming that people would use the "Add delimited text layer
> tool". Sorry - I forgot to mention that. It is more flexible and easier
> to use than the "Add vector layer" dialogue.
> 
> About CSV, joins and updates: have you checked the cache vs. uncached
> option for your joins?
> 
> Andreas
> 
> On 18.09.2015 11:47, DelazJ wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Andreas, unless you add the csv file with "Add delimited text layer"
>> tool, I'm afraid there's not a "watch file" option available.
>>
>> I just add a csv file to a qgis project with "add a vector layer"
>> tool. I open the same csv in a text editor and change some values.
>> While reopening the csv file attribute table in QGIS, values were
>> already uptodate. I've done nothing special. So I'm not sure if QGIS
>> requiers a particular action to sync data.
>> But what seems buggy is that even if the csv file attribue table is
>> updated in QGIS, if this csv was joined to a shapefile, the changes
>> won't be applied in the shapefile's attribute table. Can someone confirm?
>> I can't get changes with the "Refresh" button.
>>
>> Tested with qgis ltr 2.8.3
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-18 10:38 GMT+02:00 Andreas Neumann
>> <a.neum...@carto.net>:
>>
>> Hi Marco,
>>
>> If you have the "watch file" option of your CSV file active it
>> will reread data  when file content changes and when your redraw
>> your map (either through navigation or redraw button).
>>
>> I guess you could also write a small Python script if you want to
>> automatically trigger an update at a given interval. Maybe there
>> is already a plugin available - I did not look.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> On 18.09.2015 10:15, Dr. Marco Lechner wrote:
>>> Hi Nicola,
>>>
>>> I guess this will only redraw the features in the mapcanvas, but not
>>> necessarily read the datasource file, but I'm not sure about this.
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
>>> Am 18.09.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Nicola Poles:
 To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
 press the "F5" key

 Nicola

 On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner 
  > wrote:

 Hi,

 how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape 
 -
 differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource - 
 qgis-
 communication goes.

 Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
 automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
 edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is 
 better for
 sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events) 
 QGIS
 requests features from the datasources.

 As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
 (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor 
 folders
 and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well 
 it
 does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but 
 adding
 this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could 
 also
 be notified when a layers file changed.

 But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the 
 (re)loading of
 an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
 (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?

 Marco

 --
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 Bundesamt fuer Strahlenschutz / Federal Office for Radiation 
 Protection
 SW2.1 Koordination Notfallschutzsysteme / Coordination Emergency 
 Systems
 Rosastrasse 9 | D-79098 Freiburg | Germany
 mlech...@bfs.de   
  | +49 (0)3018 333 6724 
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[Nicola Poles]

To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
press the "F5" key

Nicola

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape -
> differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource - qgis-
> communication goes.
>
> Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
> automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
> edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is better for
> sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events) QGIS
> requests features from the datasources.
>
> As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
> (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor folders
> and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well it
> does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but adding
> this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could also
> be notified when a layers file changed.
>
> But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the (re)loading of
> an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
> (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?
>
> Marco
>
> --
> Dr. Marco Lechner
> Bundesamt fuer Strahlenschutz / Federal Office for Radiation Protection
> SW2.1 Koordination Notfallschutzsysteme / Coordination Emergency Systems
> Rosastrasse 9 | D-79098 Freiburg | Germany
> mlech...@bfs.de | +49 (0)3018 333 6724 | www.bfs.de
>
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Re: [Qgis-user] automatically reload (csv) file

[DelazJ]

Hi,
Andreas, unless you add the csv file with "Add delimited text layer" tool,
I'm afraid there's not a "watch file" option available.

I just add a csv file to a qgis project with "add a vector layer" tool. I
open the same csv in a text editor and change some values. While reopening
the csv file attribute table in QGIS, values were already uptodate. I've
done nothing special. So I'm not sure if QGIS requiers a particular action
to sync data.
But what seems buggy is that even if the csv file attribue table is updated
in QGIS, if this csv was joined to a shapefile, the changes won't be
applied in the shapefile's attribute table. Can someone confirm?
I can't get changes with the "Refresh" button.

Tested with qgis ltr 2.8.3


2015-09-18 10:38 GMT+02:00 Andreas Neumann :

> Hi Marco,
>
> If you have the "watch file" option of your CSV file active it will reread
> data  when file content changes and when your redraw your map (either
> through navigation or redraw button).
>
> I guess you could also write a small Python script if you want to
> automatically trigger an update at a given interval. Maybe there is already
> a plugin available - I did not look.
>
> Andreas
>
>
> On 18.09.2015 10:15, Dr. Marco Lechner wrote:
>
> Hi Nicola,
>
> I guess this will only redraw the features in the mapcanvas, but not
> necessarily read the datasource file, but I'm not sure about this.
>
> Marco
>
> Am 18.09.2015 um 10:02 schrieb Nicola Poles:
>
> To reload a CSV file you can press the Refresh button on the toolbar or
> press the "F5" key
>
> Nicola
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Dr. Marco Lechner 
>  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> how (often) does QGIS read features from a file (like csv or shape -
> differences?)? I realize I do not really know how the datasource - qgis-
> communication goes.
>
> Imaine you have a csv or shape file that is loaded into QGIS but is
> automatically replaced from time to time (or lets say externally
> edited). Using a database- instead of file-based approach is better for
> sure, but still it is not clear when / how often (on which events) QGIS
> requests features from the datasources.
>
> As an idea in mind I see, the nice Sync-Plugin
> (https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/SyncQGISWithDir/) can monitor folders
> and notify the user if a new layer is available in a folder (well it
> does not take care of a changed layer (new timestamp of file, but adding
> this functionality should not be such a big thing). The user could also
> be notified when a layers file changed.
>
> But I'm not sure what was the best way to implement the (re)loading of
> an already loaded layer. Do I have to drop the layer and reload it
> (including keeping the style) or is there a more efficient way?
>
> Marco
>
> --
> Dr. Marco Lechner
> Bundesamt fuer Strahlenschutz / Federal Office for Radiation Protection
> SW2.1 Koordination Notfallschutzsysteme / Coordination Emergency Systems
> Rosastrasse 9 | D-79098 Freiburg | Germany
> mlech...@bfs.de   | +49 (0)3018 
> 333 6724
>  | www.bfs.de  
> 
>
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