Re: [ql-users] Today 20 years ago...

2006-01-25 Thread Arnould
My QL was 20 in November 84. I don't remember the exact date, but I 
still have the invoice somewhere in the handbook. It was version JM 
imported to France by a non official reseller. It still works well. 
Including the microdrives.

Arnould


On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:37:17 + (GMT), Stephen Usher wrote
 Well, actually, it was 20 years ago tomorrow, but why wait..
 
 I also got my QL then.

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[ql-users] Impressive: QL in Ghostscript 8.14 docs

2006-01-25 Thread extdgl42
I expect a number of QLers are aware of this already, but in downloading  
installing Ghostscript 8.14 (a major product for viewing PostScript  PDF), for 
work, I happened through the ReadMe file, and there in front of God  country 
as they say, was:

SMS/QDOS 
For information on a port to the SMS/QDOS operating system, contact 
Jonathan R. Hudson
+44-1703-867843 telephone and fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.jrhudson.demon.co.uk/ 
The Web site has precompiled binaries, and the port includes includes drivers 
for: 

pic:  native graphics format  (PIC, 1-, -2, 4-, 8-colour formats)  
qfax: fax files (1D, 2D normal and fine)

Plan 9 [etc.]

The World knows of us, at least here and there.

Doug L. 37830 USA

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[ql-users] Website problem

2006-01-25 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Hi all,
unfortunately today my website was hijacked by (probably) Russian hackers  
running a phishing scam. My provider had to completely delete the contents  
of all my websites. Until further notice, there will be no  
uqlx.dokos-gr.net, freeqdos.dokos-gr.net, ql-archive.dokos-gr.net and all  
the files contained therein (so there go all the QL-INET files from the  
articles) Sorry about any inconvenience.


Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] Website problem

2006-01-25 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:06:37 -0500,ο(η) Tony Firshman  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε:

 On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 at 11:15:07, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
 (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

 Hi all,
 unfortunately today my website was hijacked by (probably) Russian  
 hackers
 running a phishing scam. My provider had to completely delete the  
 contents
 of all my websites. Until further notice, there will be no
 uqlx.dokos-gr.net, freeqdos.dokos-gr.net, ql-archive.dokos-gr.net and  
 all
 the files contained therein (so there go all the QL-INET files from the
 articles) Sorry about any inconvenience.
 Hope you have good backups.

 Tony



I do :-) However on a mobile phone connection (hopefully for only 5 more  
days) I cannot upload anything.

Thanks,


Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] Today 20 years ago...

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Newson
Stephen Usher wrote:

 Well, actually, it was 20 years ago tomorrow, but why wait..
 
 I also got my QL then.
 
 It allowed me to learn how to program in assembler, helped me with MSc project
 (the MSc course used a 68000 board for the robotics stuff and I used the QL as
 a development platform, writing a subset of the QDOS system calls for the
 68000 board to ease the development) and was a lovely machine to program. I
 see that another subscriber to this list is Robert Newson. Do you still use my
 old terminal emulator program?

Would if the QL worked...handy for testing Bullet ^_^

 It still works, though it's up in my loft at the moment along with the Trump
 Card and the twin 3.5 DD drives.

Mine's still sitting on my desk; however it isn't working at the moment (I 
suspect a ULA) :-(

 Ah, the memories.

So much stuff on my 3.2M ED disks I want to get at (eg my year planner 
program, and my diary program - prints a weekly twin page diary starting on 
any day with 4 days on the left page and 3 on the right to a given size, 
complete with printing on both sides of the paper ready for cutting and 
binding...)...must get the QL fixed when I get a chance.
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Re: [ql-users] Today 20 years ago...

2006-01-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 at 21:01:56, Robert Newson wrote:
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Mine's still sitting on my desk; however it isn't working at the moment (I
suspect a ULA) :-(
What are the symptoms?

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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Newson
Tony Firshman wrote:

 On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 at 21:01:56, Robert Newson wrote:
 (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
Mine's still sitting on my desk; however it isn't working at the moment (I
suspect a ULA) :-(

 What are the symptoms?

Clears desk to get access to QL...

It's been rather erratic when I last used it.  I was trying to do some 
programming when it just kept corrupting - name table did silly things, etc 
and it was impossible to list (etc) the program on which I was working.

Prior to that I had changed my GC battery and on re-insertion of GC, QL 
wouldn't work.  I also had ICE ROM installed.

Removed both GC  ICE and it seemed to work again.  So had GC checked and it 
came back AOK.

Then QL kept crashing and not even booting WITHOUT any extra peripherals - 
ie just the QL itself (it has had one personal mod *years* ago in that I 
changed (upgraded) the voltage regulator - as per instrs in QL mag [poss QL 
World]).

Having just switched it on for the first time in ages, it has booted up 
without problem and is currently playing Psion Chess against itself (demo) 
in 3D Mode.

I've had to resort back to my hacked (personal mod [again]) Phillips TX BW 
TV (hacked in a Video input to bypass the demodulator which doesn't work) as 
my colour monitor died when I tried to use the QL after a long break (having 
finally got a replacement GC battery); the QL started playing up at around 
the same time.

I suspect the last colour monitor wasn't doing the QL any good as prior to 
that monitor I had a rebadged Phillips TTL monitor (an Archimedes monitor) 
which worked fine (until it died and my brother took it to be fixed, never 
to be seen again), even when I did a dual display with a TV as well to show 
the difference in quality - the last colour monitor caused the TV output to 
visibly degrade considerably if run at the same time.

I did have an odd occurence years ago when I removed the dead battery from 
the GC; on reinsertion of GC the QL didn't work and I thought it was fried, 
but it just started working again.

I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot.  Without it, 
it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert.  Have subsequently tried ICE 
ROM and it has booted ok.  Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* checked and 
found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?


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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Stephen Usher
I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot.  Without it, 
it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert.  Have subsequently tried ICE 
ROM and it has booted ok.  Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* checked and 
found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?

Or a power supply fault.

Steve
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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Paul Holmgren
Robert Newson wrote:

 Tony Firshman wrote:

 I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot. Without it,
 it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert. Have subsequently 
 tried ICE
 ROM and it has booted ok. Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* 
 checked and
 found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?

 Robert


Might peer into the expansion port with strong light and try and see if 
you have any bent pins

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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Robert Newson
Paul Holmgren wrote:

 Robert Newson wrote:
 
Tony Firshman wrote:

I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot. Without it,
it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert. Have subsequently 
tried ICE
ROM and it has booted ok. Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* 
checked and
found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?

Robert
 
 Might peer into the expansion port with strong light and try and see if 
 you have any bent pins

I did (bend pin) years ago (and fixed that...don't remember the kind of 
crash now get).  Just checked, all pins ok.
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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Derek Stewart
The normal QL power supply is not enough to power the QL CPU - 68008 and the 
Gold Card.

Remove the CPU from the QL and plug the Gold card into the QL and this may 
solve your problem, assuming there are no bent or damaged pins on the 
expansion port.

Derek
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 I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot.  Without 
 it,
it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert.  Have subsequently tried 
ICE
ROM and it has booted ok.  Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* checked 
and
found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?

 Or a power supply fault.

 Steve
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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 at 22:54:19, Robert Newson wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Tony Firshman wrote:

 On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 at 21:01:56, Robert Newson wrote:
 (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Mine's still sitting on my desk; however it isn't working at the moment (I
suspect a ULA) :-(

 What are the symptoms?

Clears desk to get access to QL...

It's been rather erratic when I last used it.  I was trying to do some
programming when it just kept corrupting - name table did silly things, etc
and it was impossible to list (etc) the program on which I was working.

Prior to that I had changed my GC battery and on re-insertion of GC, QL
wouldn't work.  I also had ICE ROM installed.

Removed both GC  ICE and it seemed to work again.  So had GC checked and it
came back AOK.

Then QL kept crashing and not even booting WITHOUT any extra peripherals -
ie just the QL itself (it has had one personal mod *years* ago in that I
changed (upgraded) the voltage regulator - as per instrs in QL mag [poss QL
World]).

Having just switched it on for the first time in ages, it has booted up
without problem and is currently playing Psion Chess against itself (demo)
in 3D Mode.

I've had to resort back to my hacked (personal mod [again]) Phillips TX BW
TV (hacked in a Video input to bypass the demodulator which doesn't work) as
my colour monitor died when I tried to use the QL after a long break
I wonder whether it is related to my Ferguson colour TX TV circa 1985. 
The pcb was laid out to support RGB input - even with a modulator 
disable pad.  I zapped my RF modulator on this by dropping the disable 
wire on a high voltage.  It worked fine (and still is) with a 
replacement module.
 (having
finally got a replacement GC battery); the QL started playing up at around
the same time.
Systems areOK with no GQ battery.  You just lose the clock protection 
etc.

I suspect the last colour monitor wasn't doing the QL any good as prior to
that monitor I had a rebadged Phillips TTL monitor (an Archimedes monitor)
which worked fine (until it died and my brother took it to be fixed, never
to be seen again), even when I did a dual display with a TV as well to show
the difference in quality - the last colour monitor caused the TV output to
visibly degrade considerably if run at the same time.

I did have an odd occurence years ago when I removed the dead battery from
the GC; on reinsertion of GC the QL didn't work and I thought it was fried,
but it just started working again.

I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot.  Without it,
it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert.  Have subsequently tried ICE
ROM and it has booted ok.  Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* checked and
found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?
Yes indeed.  I bet it is that.
Slightly bent pins can cause poor contact.  It looks like GC and its 
connector are OK as you have had it checked.
It could even be a pin bent right out of the way.  That is very easy 
with ones near the end,  Typically they bend into an L shape. ie a bit 
flat and the rest still straight.  Often it can short against a 
neighbouring pin causing the QL to fail (or crash - as you found).
If a pin is bent, then take the board out of the QL, and bend and 
straighten the pin very very very very carefully - they are brittle and 
you will probably only get one chance to bend it.  Tweezers and 
jeweller's screwdrivers will help.

I have seen (and repaired) dozens of QLs with this fault.

Of course as well do the std things - like cleaning chip legs (with hard 
rubber) - 8302 is especially bad, and re-seat chips, heat sink compound 
under the 5v regulator, cable from regulator to ram 5V (this was on 
later boards) and mains filter.  Mind you if you have a std US QL then 
it will have loads of mods, including filtering components.
I think I say this and more in my QL troubleshooting guide on my web 
site.

You could even bring it to the next North American QL show.  Watch this 
space..

Tony
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Re: [ql-users] Dead QL - long live my QL!

2006-01-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 at 23:43:05, Roy wood wrote:
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I have a lot of working QLs if you need one.
US ones?
I thought Robert was USA based?
Ahha no - .co.uk
Sorry Robert, but you could still come to the US show (8-)#

Tony

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