Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread Phil Kett
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard
 disk?

 I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New
 Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ 
 in
 Device Manager.

 Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. -
 normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu
 to offer a format command.

 It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but
 of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard 
 disk because
 it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course 
 of action here???

 Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives drive not 
 recognised error

 F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone 
 thought otherwise!)

 This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full
 backup of drive C:\  and my music (that way Windoze can do what it
 likes with the C:\ drive.)

   
In windows XP, right click on 'My Computer' (Either on the start menu or
on the desktop if you have the icon there), from the menu click on
manage. A new window will appear, on the left click on Disk Management,
there you'll see your new drive (probably without a partition), right
click on the drive 'bar' on the right and select 'Create new partition',
then follow the prompts.

Your new drive will then be partitioned and formatted for you and should
then be usable.

Hope that helps!

Phil

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Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread John Gilpin
From the DOS Command line, have you tried FDisk? I think it is self 
explanatory but be careful to format the right disk - Formatting your C 
Drive would be disastrous.

If in doubt, most basic DOS books will walk you through the procedure or the 
Help facility in Windows (if you search FDisk) will give you the info.

Hope this helps,

John Gilpin.


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Subject: [ql-users] new hard disk


 OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard
 disk?

 I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New
 Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\
 in
 Device Manager.

 Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. -
 normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu
 to offer a format command.

 It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but
 of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard
 disk because
 it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course
 of action here???

 Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives drive not
 recognised error

 F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone
 thought otherwise!)

 This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full
 backup of drive C:\  and my music (that way Windoze can do what it
 likes with the C:\ drive.)

 -- 
 Dilwyn Jones




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Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread Tony Firshman
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John Gilpin wrote:
From the DOS Command line, have you tried FDisk? I think it is self 
 explanatory but be careful to format the right disk - Formatting your C 
 Drive would be disastrous.
 
 If in doubt, most basic DOS books will walk you through the procedure or the 
 Help facility in Windows (if you search FDisk) will give you the info.
 
 Hope this helps,
You have to ignore all these messages about the command line!

XP does it from administrative tools, and the easiest route to that from
My COmputer has already been described.

This method is *so* much better than the old command line tools, as it
would be very hard indeed to format the wrong disk (8-)#

Laurence Reeves wrote a great scam program, for DOS (when that was
*real* and not emulated).  It looked just like a real format, including
disk access.

Tony



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[ql-users] QL Wiki - New Theme

2007-04-17 Thread Rich Mellor
Just to let you know that the appearance of the QL Wiki has now been  
updated to take account of its theme!!

Many thanks to Jimmy for all his hard work on the css.

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Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread David Tubbs
At 09:27 17/04/2007, you wrote:

OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard
disk?

I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New
Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\
in
Device Manager.

Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. -
normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu
to offer a format command.

It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but
of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard
disk because
it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course
of action here???

Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives drive not
recognised error

F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone
thought otherwise!)

You really can't blame MS or Uncle Bill if you 
don't bother with what is on your PC (XP I presume).

Use the HELP provided - type Format into search box
then Format basic volume:-
this comes up :-

Notes
* To open Computer Management, click Start, 
point to Settings, and then click Control Panel. 
Double-click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Computer Management.
* In the console tree, click Disk Management.

* 
ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\diskmgmt.chm::/ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\diskmgmt.chm::/dm_format_partition.htm#
[]

ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\diskmgmt.chm::/ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\diskmgmt.chm::/dm_format_partition.htm#Where?
 

* Computer Management (Local)
* Storage
* Disk Management
This is OK first time, but if you ever want to 
change or resize partitions Windows is 
destructive of all data, much better is 
PowerQuest's Magic, moves the data as it works.

While you are venting your spleen at Seattle, 
think a little deeper, how could you afford to 
buy such a large HDD ? How come I was offered 
1Gig RAM for £50 yesterday - the half meg 
Expanderram I got in 1980 cost £70 ! ! ! !
The reason is Gates ever larger operating systems 
have created the market for hardware thet bulk 
production has brought the price crashing down.

No I am not an out and out lover of MS, but 
credit where it is due, and gratitude.

(that way Windoze can do what it likes with the C:\ drive.)

Now there I think you are right, I look on it as 
Bill's sandpit, let him play there and create and 
create his defrag-needing mess in one place.

My first 'puter was a Grundy Newbrain, had two 
cassette ports, then the QL with 2 Mdvs and the 
convention of prog's on one and data the other. I 
have carried that logic to the PC. Partitions for 
each - Progs, Data, Install packages, Page/Swap 
file - a major cause and obstruction of defregging.

Btw, if you dont wish ever to boot from the new 
drive wrap all volumes in and extended partition.



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Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Holmgren
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard
 disk?

 I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New
 Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ 
 in Device Manager.

 Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. -
 normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu
 to offer a format command.

 It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but
 of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard 
 disk because
 it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course 
 of action here???

 Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives drive not 
 recognised error

 F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone 
 thought otherwise!)

 This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full
 backup of drive C:\  and my music (that way Windoze can do what it
 likes with the C:\ drive.)

didnt see anyone ask this,  have you checked in the BIOS setup if the 
computer is seeing the new HD and is reporting its correct size??

On some PC's you need to get into the BIOS First, let it determine that 
there is a HD present, then save settings
THEN Fdisk and most any other utility way of messing with the drive 
should work.

MOST newly bought retail packeages HD's should be recognizable by 
winderze ONCE its allowed to see the drive I recall


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Re: [ql-users] Incommunicado + Message for Rich Mellor

2007-04-17 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:56:43 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I arrived back from Hove on Monday night to discover my
 telephone line is dead. At the moment we cannot trace the
 fault and the earliest date for repair is Thursday afternoon.

 This means I have no email access for a few days. I can
 still be reached via my landline as BT are redirecting the
 calls.

Oh dear that is not good news.

 MESSAGE FOR RICH MELLOR

 I managed to get a boxed copy of Supercharge at Hove.
 Complete with manual, lenslock and disc. Would your client
 still be interested? All I need is payments for post and
 packing.


Yes please I am sure he would - do you want to post it to me.

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[ql-users] New here....

2007-04-17 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Gents, (Ladies?)

I just recently joined the list and wanted to shortly introduce myself...

I just recently browsed ye olde this' and thats in the basement and came 
across a box of my old QL stuff buried under 10 years of dust. I 
couldn't stand it for long and now he's back on the desk again: Sinclair 
QL, basically brand new (has been bought at that time as an occasion for 
next to nothing just in case), MGG, Sandy Q-Board and, after browsing 
the internet for what might have been left over from the QL community, 
now accompanied by a brand new QPC installation on my laptop. Still 
lurking in the box is a Miracle QXL board, which has long lost its 
fellow  PC with the ISA slots. Let's see if I can find a new replacement.

Please be warned: I might possibly pester you with questions on what has 
changed during my 10 years absence from the scene during the next 
weeks or so.

Something about my background: I earn a living from daily juggling with 
real computers with a big scandinavian mobile phone company (no, the 
other one) in Germany. When I used to be an active QL-er i was mainly 
interested in programming in 68k assembler and C, mostly for the pointer 
interface which was, as far as I remember, pretty new to the scene back 
then (One of my last software purchases for the QL was QPAC2, which was 
brand-new at that time)
What I'm basically interested in right now is how I can revive my old 
collection of software, most importantly Text87, which is by far the 
most expensive piece of my software collection. It just doesn't seem to 
like the QPC. Any hints on that, maybe?

Thanks
Tobias
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