[Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
We had a brief discussion of using the WINE/QPC2 combination on the new 
Linux-based notebook PCs such as the Asus Eeepc.

I notice that Maplin are selling a £160 notebook and Elonex a £99 notebook 
along the same lines. Anyone tried these machines to see if either uQLx or 
WINE/QPC2 could be run on them. Details are at www.maplin.co.uk (product code 
A98HX) and www.elonex.co.uk (Elonex One). The Elonex machine is reviewed in the 
current Computeractive issue 275.

The Elonex machine in particular being a sub-£100 machine would make a decent 
cheap portable WINE/QPC2 or uQLx system if those emulators work on it.

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Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Kilpatrick


On 2 Sep 2008, at 19:04, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

We had a brief discussion of using the WINE/QPC2 combination on the  
new Linux-based notebook PCs such as the Asus Eeepc.


I notice that Maplin are selling a £160 notebook and Elonex a £99  
notebook along the same lines. Anyone tried these machines to see if  
either uQLx or WINE/QPC2 could be run on them. Details are at www.maplin.co.uk 
 (product code A98HX) and www.elonex.co.uk (Elonex One). The Elonex  
machine is reviewed in the current Computeractive issue 275.


The Elonex machine in particular being a sub-£100 machine would make  
a decent cheap portable WINE/QPC2 or uQLx system if those emulators  
work on it.


Seriously.

These machines are rubbish.

The Elonex Onet - not their £99 one - is the same as the Maplin. They  
are underpowered, based on a Chinese knock-off MIPS CPU, in the case  
of the One (rubber keyboard tablet) at 300MHz/128MB RAM/1GB SSD, and  
the Onet at 400MHz. They run a dated version of Linux and lack  
hardware resources. They're also very overpriced for what you get in  
the case of the Onet/Maplin - the Asus Eee 701 is under £150 if you  
shop around and offers superior specification, the £189 price point  
mooted for the Elonex Onet is a mere £10 saving on the Acer Aspire  
One, which at £199 offers greater resolution display (1024 x 600), 8GB  
SSD (£229 gives 120GB HD), 512MB RAM (expandable to 1.5GB) and a  
1.6GHz Intel CPU with decent cache and performance.


There are many good SCC (Small, Cheap Computer) models, Asus and Acer  
leading the market, but the MSI Wind (also sold as an Advent), and  
Dell's forthcoming machine also offer good specifications for a decent  
price.


The £40 (at most) saving you make on the Maplin model is costing you  
useful screen resolution, useful storage, useful RAM and most  
significantly, a useful CPU that can handle modern Linux distros  
comfortably. In addition the Acer offers the hardware hack inclined  
motherboard pads for a Mini PCI-e slot and SIM card slot that will  
allow an internal 3G modem, 3 USB ports, VGA out (lacking on the  
Elonex/Maplin, IIRC), and a very useful feature on the SSD models -  
TWO card slots. One SDHC slot for storage expansion, and one card  
reader with support for various formats.


QL on a SCC? Fantastic idea. Love to have a good QL environment  
running under Linux on my Acer or Eee. Elonex, however, have not  
produced something worthwhile for the marketplace here. When the  
specifications became apparent, I cancelled my order with them (and  
getting a refund, despite a vague 28 days delivery after waiting  
since February for the machines to ship from the pre-order date - even  
though the computers are rebranded Chinese machines that have been in  
production for some time already, was rather difficult and took  
threats of discussing the matter with the card clearing company).


Richard
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