Re: [Ql-Users] [ql-users] ATX controller...
TF: I don't, but my memory is not what it used to be! Me: How long have you had this problem? TF: What problem? :-) (Sorry!) Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
Morning Dilwyn, However, the failure to explain all this publicly and the fact it went on for a long time without explanation does give the impression of negligence in updating the website, whereas the truth is that the whole sorry situation is actually down to the CMS not working as it should on the free server spaces used, making it impossible to provide a decent website while that system is in use. I sneaked a peek at the home page source code. Looks like Quanta are using TYP03 as the CMS (www.typ03.org) which is not one I've heard of in the past, but a qucik web search shows that some pretty big organisations use it - Thomas Cook, Unicef, Lidl etc - so it can't be a problem with the CMS per se. Maybe it's the people using it? Maybe the free hosting company can't cope with the load, who knows. The system itself seems pretty light on resources, so maybe the switch to a paid for host will help. My own website (http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk) - or maybe I should call it George's web site as he is doing most of the updating at the moment (thanks George) - is run on a simple Wiki (www.Dokuwiki.org) which is useful and simple and works pretty well even when broadband is reduced to an 11 mbs (bits not bytes!) wireless connection! (Which is what I have to use at work!). However, I don't think that would be suitable for Quanta. I do think that CMS is the way to go with a enterprise web site these days, it takes far too long and is not really cost effective to be hand coding HTML - even with a WYSISWYG HTML editor - you need to be able to connect, edit, save and disconnect, not messing about with HTML and then trying to FTP the results to the right place etc etc. However, I've been on the site (using the above mentioned wifi link) and it's very responsive, quite fast - and it looks good. So, I'm rather concerned at the fact that you have problems with it when editing or updating - I'm loathe to believe that the free hosting is at fault, unless your bandwidth is throttled somehow and the editing process is hitting a limit? Not much help I know, just random thoughts mainly, and a bit of encouragement. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
Maybe it's the people using it? Maybe the free hosting company can't cope with the load, who knows. The system itself seems pretty light on resources, so maybe the switch to a paid for host will help. My own website (http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk) - or maybe I should call it George's web site as he is doing most of the updating at the moment (thanks George) - is run on a simple Wiki (www.Dokuwiki.org) which is useful and simple and works pretty well even when broadband is reduced to an 11 mbs (bits not bytes!) wireless connection! (Which is what I have to use at work!). However, I don't think that would be suitable for Quanta. 11mbs?!? I'd give my right arm for a broadband that works that well. I've said in the past here I get just under 2mbs at best, or around 30kbs at times when it's kids on facebook time in this village. I do think that CMS is the way to go with a enterprise web site these days, it takes far too long and is not really cost effective to be hand coding HTML - even with a WYSISWYG HTML editor - you need to be able to connect, edit, save and disconnect, not messing about with HTML and then trying to FTP the results to the right place etc etc. Absolutely, I agree. I didn't want to name the CMS when I had my little rant in case of comebacks, but you did guess right. I use other CMS'es for the tanslation work etc with no problem whatsoever, even over this cr***y broadband :-) However, I've been on the site (using the above mentioned wifi link) and it's very responsive, quite fast - and it looks good. So, I'm rather concerned at the fact that you have problems with it when editing or updating - I'm loathe to believe that the free hosting is at fault, unless your bandwidth is throttled somehow and the editing process is hitting a limit? Probably the useless broadband around here. There are times when doing things online you type a character, wait a couple of seconds and then it appears. I don't usually give up on things too easily but the Quanta CMS has been quite frustrating for me personally. Technically, it probably ain't the CMS per se, but the entire experience of the entire system it's implemented on. I really don't know about that part of it and am happy to leave that to others who have designated responsibilities for that part of the system. I think it might be more of a case of which OS the servers were using, and which software utility support was in place to allow the CMS to function, but I don't concern myself too much with that, so you might be better asking Dan or Keith about it in case I give incorrect information about it. Not much help I know, just random thoughts mainly, and a bit of encouragement. Well, throwing random thoughts into a brainstorming session often generates good ideas. We've seen that on this list plenty of times in the past :-) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:37, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning Dilwyn, However, the failure to explain all this publicly and the fact it went on for a long time without explanation does give the impression of negligence in updating the website, whereas the truth is that the whole sorry situation is actually down to the CMS not working as it should on the free server spaces used, making it impossible to provide a decent website while that system is in use. I sneaked a peek at the home page source code. Looks like Quanta are using TYP03 as the CMS (www.typ03.org) which is not one I've heard of in the past, but a qucik web search shows that some pretty big organisations use it - Thomas Cook, Unicef, Lidl etc - so it can't be a problem with the CMS per se. Maybe it's the people using it? Maybe the free hosting company can't cope with the load, who knows. The system itself seems pretty light on resources, so maybe the switch to a paid for host will help. My own website (http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk) - or maybe I should call it George's web site as he is doing most of the updating at the moment (thanks George) - is run on a simple Wiki (www.Dokuwiki.org) which is useful and simple and works pretty well even when broadband is reduced to an 11 mbs (bits not bytes!) wireless connection! (Which is what I have to use at work!). However, I don't think that would be suitable for Quanta. It's a pity that it wouldn't be suitable for QUANTA. Even I find it pretty easy to alter. (Only one trap or vector left to create.) I do think that CMS is the way to go with a enterprise web site these days, it takes far too long and is not really cost effective to be hand coding HTML - even with a WYSISWYG HTML editor - you need to be able to connect, edit, save and disconnect, not messing about with HTML and then trying to FTP the results to the right place etc etc. However, I've been on the site (using the above mentioned wifi link) and it's very responsive, quite fast - and it looks good. So, I'm rather concerned at the fact that you have problems with it when editing or updating - I'm loathe to believe that the free hosting is at fault, unless your bandwidth is throttled somehow and the editing process is hitting a limit? Not much help I know, just random thoughts mainly, and a bit of encouragement. I recently had to move my tiny, rudimentary website from the free ukonline to 123-reg. I imagine that there are fewer and fewer freely hosted sites these days. The new host was very helpful when I failed initially to get the thing working. I look forward to the time when my site address will eventually appear on the QUANTA site which is quick and easy to follow - but a bit slow on the update. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] (no subject)
I recently had to move my tiny, rudimentary website from the free ukonline to 123-reg. I imagine that there are fewer and fewer freely hosted sites these days. The new host was very helpful when I failed initially to get the thing working. Well, my domain name name is with 123-reg, although my QL website runs on Tony Firshman's servers. I have nothing but praise for his service and very reasonable prices. Even when we had to migrate my site to new servers, I think it all went 100% perfectly. Plus of course Tony understands our particular needs when creating QL-focused websites and is always prepared to try to help. My personal website and one or two others I maintain are all done in the old fashioned way, a tag view editor and Filezilla to upload the pages. Not the most modern way of doing things, but it works, and both my personal website and the others I maintain are reasonably quick and up to date and intentionally not all bells and whistles. If I had to list software I'd like to see for the QL it would be: 1. Email client (possible, but a lot of work - Jonathan Hudson's programs exist) 2. Browser (unlikely, but not impossible - Lynx already exists) 3. Website editing software (possible, but a lot of work) 4. Modern WP/DTP software (unlikely, but not impossible - Paragraph/Prowess exists already) I look forward to the time when my site address will eventually appear on the QUANTA site which is quick and easy to follow - but a bit slow on the update. I look forward to being able to edit the news pages again! The new link to your website is on my QL site links page, but I will need to check that the QL Search Engine picks it up, though, which I forgot to check (it can be forced to look at specified websites, which makes it find new sites more quickly). Actually, if anyone else wants to implement a QL-specific search engine like the one on my website, I'd be happy to share details of how to go about it. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:26 AM, gdgqler gdgq...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:37, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning Dilwyn, However, the failure to explain all this publicly and the fact it went on for a long time without explanation does give the impression of negligence in updating the website, whereas the truth is that the whole sorry situation is actually down to the CMS not working as it should on the free server spaces used, making it impossible to provide a decent website while that system is in use. I sneaked a peek at the home page source code. Looks like Quanta are using TYP03 as the CMS (www.typ03.org) which is not one I've heard of in the past, but a qucik web search shows that some pretty big organisations use it - Thomas Cook, Unicef, Lidl etc - so it can't be a problem with the CMS per se. Maybe it's the people using it? Maybe the free hosting company can't cope with the load, who knows. The system itself seems pretty light on resources, so maybe the switch to a paid for host will help. My own website (http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk) - or maybe I should call it George's web site as he is doing most of the updating at the moment (thanks George) - is run on a simple Wiki (www.Dokuwiki.org) which is useful and simple and works pretty well even when broadband is reduced to an 11 mbs (bits not bytes!) wireless connection! (Which is what I have to use at work!). However, I don't think that would be suitable for Quanta. It's a pity that it wouldn't be suitable for QUANTA. Even I find it pretty easy to alter. (Only one trap or vector left to create.) I do think that CMS is the way to go with a enterprise web site these days, it takes far too long and is not really cost effective to be hand coding HTML - even with a WYSISWYG HTML editor - you need to be able to connect, edit, save and disconnect, not messing about with HTML and then trying to FTP the results to the right place etc etc. However, I've been on the site (using the above mentioned wifi link) and it's very responsive, quite fast - and it looks good. So, I'm rather concerned at the fact that you have problems with it when editing or updating - I'm loathe to believe that the free hosting is at fault, unless your bandwidth is throttled somehow and the editing process is hitting a limit? Not much help I know, just random thoughts mainly, and a bit of encouragement. I recently had to move my tiny, rudimentary website from the free ukonline to 123-reg. I imagine that there are fewer and fewer freely hosted sites these days. The new host was very helpful when I failed initially to get the thing working. I look forward to the time when my site address will eventually appear on the QUANTA site which is quick and easy to follow - but a bit slow on the update. I have my own web server, which is somewhat of a luxury for me :) I have used wordpress, and when my needs grew beyond it, I installed Drupal - which in the end I considered too heavy and which demanded too many resources from the server. When it has 2000+ simultaneous users, it gets a bit resource-intensive. For Quanta's needs, I would recommend either Wordpress, php-nuke or slashcode. All use a MySQL backend, all are free, open source, and all would be better than what is in use now. All also have many very flexible themes available... One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is a primary form of communication - I know this seems obvious and they could say we're doing it but, c'mon, really? :) Where's the Quanta forum? Where are the public areas and the members only areas within it? It's so easy to run a great forum if you have a captive membership. Look at qlforum.co.uk, which is run on free phpBB (which I have also hosted.) One trap with running a forum - which qlforum has fallen into... It is not necessary or desirable to have the first two or three entries be the rules and info about the forum. It's undesirable to have the rules on every page when you post. Show it nice when people sign up. Every decent forum has the same basic rules: treat people with respect, don't flame, come back more often! People know how to behave, and if they don't a quiet word to one side can happen, without telling everyone all the time what the rules are. I know y'all over there live in a Nanny State, but... don't! And it's still the only game in town, forum-wise. Another trap with forums: people use net-names and it's hard to keep track of who is really who. I would have a please use your real name rule on sign-up. I have privately received an offer to put up or shut up with regard to the Quanta website... *grins* I think I will put up, but have no desire to be on a committee, or converse with one. It'll be a month or two to find the membership fee (because making things is my primary goal)... but yes, I'll rejoin Quanta after all these years. :)
Re: [Ql-Users] (no subject)
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote: My personal website and one or two others I maintain are all done in the old fashioned way, a tag view editor and Filezilla to upload the pages. Not the most modern way of doing things, but it works, and both my personal website and the others I maintain are reasonably quick and up to date and intentionally not all bells and whistles. If I had to list software I'd like to see for the QL it would be: 1. Email client (possible, but a lot of work - Jonathan Hudson's programs exist) 2. Browser (unlikely, but not impossible - Lynx already exists) 3. Website editing software (possible, but a lot of work) 4. Modern WP/DTP software (unlikely, but not impossible - Paragraph/Prowess exists already) I understand from Daniele Terdina that Q-emulator for Mac will be getting an update soon that might include TCP/IP support. If that is the case, I might take on writing a POP3/SMTP mail client when my skills improve further. One unused advantage of a QL-specific mail client is the ability to email files to each other, and have the mail program protect and retain the headers. I might need assistance with that, but I could give it a go. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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My personal website and one or two others I maintain are all done in the old fashioned way, a tag view editor and Filezilla to upload the pages. Not the most modern way of doing things, but it works, and both my personal website and the others I maintain are reasonably quick and up to date and intentionally not all bells and whistles. If I had to list software I'd like to see for the QL it would be: 1. Email client (possible, but a lot of work - Jonathan Hudson's programs exist) 2. Browser (unlikely, but not impossible - Lynx already exists) 3. Website editing software (possible, but a lot of work) 4. Modern WP/DTP software (unlikely, but not impossible - Paragraph/Prowess exists already) I understand from Daniele Terdina that Q-emulator for Mac will be getting an update soon that might include TCP/IP support. If that is the case, I might take on writing a POP3/SMTP mail client when my skills improve further. One unused advantage of a QL-specific mail client is the ability to email files to each other, and have the mail program protect and retain the headers. I might need assistance with that, but I could give it a go. Dave Now this is interesting. QPC2, uQLx and Q-emuLator for Windows all have TCP/IP support via the host OS. In fcat, from what I have looked at the specs, the X-...extensions can have mailer specific extensions. Last year I had a small program working which sent and received emails and stored them in a database. The sticking point was an editor to create emails and wrapping it all up to allow attachments etc. I did write a very primitive editor able to handle up to 32K of text but it wasn't integrated. I never got as far as a fully working version because the never ending writing for the two mags had to take priority because of deadlines and I found the email project needed constant attention or I kept forgetting what I'd last done. So I didn't go any further with it at the time. But one of the things I'd hoped to do was use the X-... mailer facilities to do something QL specific such as file transfer or secure email. As a sidetrack from that, I also developed a crude text browser for displaying html emails - it simply converted html to plain text and displayed that. More rough than ready, it is one of those projects which sort of almost worked and is lying there waiting for me to pick up on it. Both have now been left long enough for me to forget what I was doing, so it might be easier to start from scratch at some point, probably over the summer period when less is happening. There is of course Jonathan Hudson's QPOP3 and FTP client which I think include source code if you wanted to study them - www.daria.net/qdos/ Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] (no subject)
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Both have now been left long enough for me to forget what I was doing, so it might be easier to start from scratch at some point, probably over the summer period when less is happening. What language did you write them in? There is of course Jonathan Hudson's QPOP3 and FTP client which I think include source code if you wanted to study them - www.daria.net/qdos/ That is now a dead link... Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] (no subject)
Both have now been left long enough for me to forget what I was doing, so it might be easier to start from scratch at some point, probably over the summer period when less is happening. What language did you write them in? Compiled S*BASIC. (QLib compiled) There is of course Jonathan Hudson's QPOP3 and FTP client which I think include source code if you wanted to study them - www.daria.net/qdos/ That is now a dead link... Oops, sorry, was http://www.daria.co.uk/qdos/ Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
-- From: Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 3:38 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is a primary form of communication - I know this seems obvious and they could say we're doing it but, c'mon, really? :) Where's the Quanta forum? Where are the public areas and the members only areas within it? Just one thing to comment on this. The survey that Quanta did some years ago showed that there were still many members who are black box users and had no desire for becoming internet users. When you consider that Quanta does have members in their 80's who are happy with the QL and at their age have no desire to learn another computer this is reasonable. Some years ago Tony Firshman and I helped a QL-er in his 80s with hardware and software problems. He had no desire to go over to a PC and felt that Tony had provided him with good computer facilities for the rest of his life. When we started out we did not know who he was, but discovered that he was the person that had brought a household name franchise company to the UK and had done his spreadsheets on a QL. I have always had a healthy respect for black box users. This means that Quanta always has to have some paper facilities if it wants to serve all its members. Although I agree with you that we should exploit the internet far more I think there is a resistance among Quanta members, even those who are subscribers to this list, to the internet replacing paper, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] (no subject)
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 25/Feb/11 13:24 | Feb25: I recently had to move my tiny, rudimentary website from the free ukonline to 123-reg. I imagine that there are fewer and fewer freely hosted sites these days. The new host was very helpful when I failed initially to get the thing working. Well, my domain name name is with 123-reg, although my QL website runs on Tony Firshman's servers. I have nothing but praise for his service and very reasonable prices. Thanks for that. It now has 1000mbps in and out. Even when we had to migrate my site to new servers, I think it all went 100% perfectly. It *was* 100% OK, wasn't it? I was surprised myself. Plus of course Tony understands our particular needs when creating QL-focused websites and is always prepared to try to help. I had a look at CMS, but I really don't see the point when a site is a not edited by more than one or two people. I have installed one, and will delve into the gory details some day. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
Dave Park wrote, on 25/Feb/11 15:38 | Feb25: snip I have my own web server, which is somewhat of a luxury for me :) I have used wordpress, and when my needs grew beyond it, I installed Drupal - which in the end I considered too heavy and which demanded too many resources from the server. When it has 2000+ simultaneous users, it gets a bit resource-intensive. Ah - that is the one I installed. I might pick your brains. As always the help files are useless. They filed at square one - Log in to your control panel but I can find absolutely nothing that says what or where that is! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is a primary form of communication - I know this seems obvious and they could say we're doing it but, c'mon, really? :) Where's the Quanta forum? Where are the public areas and the members only areas within it? Just one thing to comment on this. The survey that Quanta did some years ago showed that there were still many members who are black box users and had no desire for becoming internet users. When you consider that Quanta does have members in their 80's who are happy with the QL and at their age have no desire to learn another computer this is reasonable. I would agree to some extent with this. We have to recognise that there are both users out there as you describe, using original QLs and no wish to go much further, and we have to cater for those who progressed to newer QL systems and emulators too. The real issue, I guess, is to try to strike a suitable balance. I suppose it's inevitable we'll never satisfy everyone. In as far as Dave asks where is the Quanta Forum etc etc, I think we have to recognise that the website has not been Quanta's strongest asset for some time now. Recent committee decisions should (theoretically) see more progress on this front. Once the basics are in place - getting the CMS to work as we want it - we can then turn our attention to new features. While ideas are always welcome, given that past Quanta websites haven't done too well, let's get the fundamentals in place first. This means that Quanta always has to have some paper facilities if it wants to serve all its members. Although I agree with you that we should exploit the internet far more I think there is a resistance among Quanta members, even those who are subscribers to this list, to the internet replacing paper, Yep. Reading the entire mag is better on paper for me, but I also like to be able to search the PDFs for information too. I agree the paper option will have to be there, but would encourage people to try the PDF versions too. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply
This reply is to both previous emails... On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote: One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is a primary form of communication - I know this seems obvious and they could say we're doing it but, c'mon, really? :) Where's the Quanta forum? Where are the public areas and the members only areas within it? Just one thing to comment on this. The survey that Quanta did some years ago showed that there were still many members who are black box users and had no desire for becoming internet users. When you consider that Quanta does have members in their 80's who are happy with the QL and at their age have no desire to learn another computer this is reasonable. I would agree to some extent with this. We have to recognise that there are both users out there as you describe, using original QLs and no wish to go much further, and we have to cater for those who progressed to newer QL systems and emulators too. Understood. However, there is a point when the reticence to do new things means you end up serving LCD... If you only serve the lowest common denominator, you orphan your users as the LCDs age out. I will be a black box user when my membrane arrives. I use an emulator for code-diddling (thanks Daniele!) and would probably be a QPC owner if I used Windows. Mixed bag. However, I'd never expect an organisation of which I was a member to limit what they offered to just suit my needs, as long as they never replaced those services that met my needs with twinkly services that don't. The real issue, I guess, is to try to strike a suitable balance. I suppose it's inevitable we'll never satisfy everyone. In as far as Dave asks where is the Quanta Forum etc etc, I think we have to recognise that the website has not been Quanta's strongest asset for some time now. Recent committee decisions should (theoretically) see more progress on this front. Once the basics are in place - getting the CMS to work as we want it - we can then turn our attention to new features. While ideas are always welcome, given that past Quanta websites haven't done too well, let's get the fundamentals in place first. I will give a very specific piece of advice to Quanta's web person(s): Don't decide what you want on the site and make headings for everything and plan it all out. Allow it to be organic. Allow popular pages to grow in the way the readers want them to. Allow little-visited pages to be relegated to sub-links or to die altogether. If you want to keep the info available, have a page cemetery. Just don't let it be managed by a committee. Allow it to respond to events more quickly than a meeting schedule. This means that Quanta always has to have some paper facilities if it wants to serve all its members. Although I agree with you that we should exploit the internet far more I think there is a resistance among Quanta members, even those who are subscribers to this list, to the internet replacing paper, Yep. Reading the entire mag is better on paper for me, but I also like to be able to search the PDFs for information too. I agree the paper option will have to be there, but would encourage people to try the PDF versions too. I personally would prefer PDF only, with an annual mailed CD archive of all issues to this point in December. Others would prefer the paper mag, or emailed copies... I find it unfortunate that Quanta has stuck by their price point and doesn't say some thing like... £12 for membership, worldwide, with emailed magazine. £16 basic + paper mag in EU £20 basic + paper mag, rest of world Also, looking at the life stage of Quanta and its members, maybe it's time to offer £100 lifetime memberships... Count on peoples' optimism ;) Also, they should maybe email a URL for the PDF and have people fetch it from the web server, so they can track how many *readers* they actually have. I'm sure a few people just take the magazine for old time's sake. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Thanks to Lee Privett, I have added a couple of useful items to my website. 1. A True Type font which looks like a QL font (based on the JS ROM font). http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/fonts/index.html 2. Improved manual for the PCML disk interfaces, available as both PDF and Word .doc file (the latter is around 7MB in size, although the former is much smaller). http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/manuals/index.html I've also added links to Dave Park's QL websites and (blush blush) corrected the one to George Gwilt's websites. There's also a page with details of the Quanta workshop and AGM in April, which can be accessed via a link in the ad boxes on the right on the home page. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] uQLX -- latest source?
I have some slightly modified code, and have included my working notes below, a few tips though, use a version 3.x of the gcc compiler thats the only way i get non segfaulting binaries, before u compile export/setenv (depending on your shell) CC=gcc-3.x.x -m32, most versions of linux i know still support some version of the 3.x compiler. The -m32 flag is also a must I cannot get a stable 64bit binary. My compiled qm, qltools and qxltool all work perfectly compiled as 32bit binaries under my gcc3.3.6 on my Mandriva 2010.2 64bit OS. I included a tarball of the source i use but it was too big for the QL mailing list, can send it direct to your email if u like, otherwise if u know where i can upload it i can do that :) Vince Pisciotta WORKING NOTES: PROGRESS 20110225 === modified 20080104 source tree; changes to Makefile to use $(CC) consistently, change IMPL destination to $(HOME)/uqlx/binaries unixstuff.c: commented out line 1504:// if (V4) V4 not defined line removed vpisciot 20110212 change to scripts in general to force 32bit compile on 64 bit architecture as this was found to be more reliable removed -fgcse-after-reload switch from XOPTS= line as it caused problems with 32bit compile force make scripts to look for version 3.x of gcc compile, still can't get it to work under 4.4.x variants python gui for launching uQLx + building a complete .uqlxrc config file === x.c line 590 rram = (RTOP - 131072)/1024; sprintf(win_name,QL - %s, %dK,QMD.sysrom,rram); version.c changes char *release=2010-02-25; char *uqlx_version=0.81; unixstuff.s line 880 commented out, //char *uqlx_version=0.00; **do this in version.c On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:09:58 Tobias Fröschle wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 24.02.2011, 13:21 -0600 schrieb Mark Martin: Does anyone have any patched source more recent than the publicly available source for uQLX at sourceforge? I've pulled that down and built for x64 ubuntu with GCC 4. I've fixed some trivial compilation issues as I went, but haven't spent more than 1 hour doing this -- ending up with a non-working build (SEGFAULT partway after startup). Has anyone done any recent compilation of uQLX? Ultimately, I'd like to prepare debian packages for x86, x64, and ARM distributions. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Mark, try here if your spanish (or babelfish) is good enough: http://www.speccy.org/foro/viewtopic.php?f=15t=720 The uqlx version I use (binary only) comes from the link in this thread and works perfectly on a recent Ubuntu. Cheers, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
