Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:24:55 + > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > From: q...@mcad.demon.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum > > In message , Rod H > writes > > > >> From: dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk > >> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > >> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:14:01 + > >> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum > >> > >> > >> > > I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - > >> > > part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. > >> > Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore > >> > after > >> > the 'mdv1' is optional. > >> > > >> > If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of > >> > this > >> > under 'Microdrive Imaging'. > >> > > >> > > 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. > >> > RAM drive, of course. > >> I should have said as well, just to clarify: > >> > >> You can check if your QL has ramdisk simply by entering the command: > >> > >> DIR RAM1_ > >> It should show a result like: > >> > >> RAM1 > >> 100/100 sectors > >> > >> the title in the first line and the numbers in the second line may vary a > >> little, depending on exactly what system you have. The numbers refer to the > >> number of 512 byte sectors in the ramdisk - free sectors/total sectors. > >> > >> The command to make an image of a microdrive cartridge which has been > >> placed > >> in microdrive drive 1 and to be copied to ramdisk RAM1_ is: > >> > >> FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' > >> > >> What this does is to make a sector by sector copy of the microdrive > >> cartridge, which it puts in the drive called RAM1_. If you've never used > >> ramdisks before, they're just like microdrives or floppy disks but exist > >> only in the memory of the computer. As Tony said, if any part of a file > >> copied with the FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' command is faulty, the filename will > >> show > >> up with a '*' character alongside it when you list the files with DIR RAM1_ > >> > >> As ramdisks are only 'temporary' media in memory, as soon as you have been > >> able to copy the cartridges into RAM disks, you can then use WCOPY RAM1_ TO > >> FLP1_ for example to copy the files to floppy disks. > >> > >> I assume you still have the manual for your Trump Card and Gold Card, if > >> not, you can get copies from my website at > >> http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/manuals/index.html (scroll down to the Miracle > >> Systems section). > >> > >> Dilwyn Jones > >> > >> ___ > >> QL-Users Mailing List > >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > > > >Thanks for the super info. I'm successfully transferring from cart to > >disk. Of course the disk content will need to be amended from "mdv" to > >"flp" or I'll try the "flp use mdv" command whenever using one of these > >disks. > > > >Rod > > Hi Rod, > > You seem to be doing well ... :-) > > Dilwyn's web site is a "mine" of archived QL information and programs > (or APPs). > > You can most updated versions of items from there, provided that you > have the original versions, so you will only need to store from > microdrive your own data. > > -- > Malcolm Cadman > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Malcolm, So far so good! The good thing about "old-timer's" memory is that the long-term is still there even after the short-term goes to crap. I built my first QL from a kit back in 1985 - 27 years ago!! I don't know if it was sold as a kit in the UK but was in North America by A+ Computer Response...the main QL seller at the time... as a way to get the QL into the marketplace. Getting updated versions of software I've bought would be great but the problem is the carts are failing fast...hence my wanting to copy them. I no longer have any of the Psion carts functioning but I do have Exchange on disk so safe there. The QL Forum site is also new to me and is excellent as well. I'll pass on the URL to those QL users here "across the pond" who aren't familiar with it. best, Rod ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
In message , Rod H writes From: dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:14:01 + Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum > > I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - > > part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. > Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore > after > the 'mdv1' is optional. > > If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this > under 'Microdrive Imaging'. > > > 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. > RAM drive, of course. I should have said as well, just to clarify: You can check if your QL has ramdisk simply by entering the command: DIR RAM1_ It should show a result like: RAM1 100/100 sectors the title in the first line and the numbers in the second line may vary a little, depending on exactly what system you have. The numbers refer to the number of 512 byte sectors in the ramdisk - free sectors/total sectors. The command to make an image of a microdrive cartridge which has been placed in microdrive drive 1 and to be copied to ramdisk RAM1_ is: FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' What this does is to make a sector by sector copy of the microdrive cartridge, which it puts in the drive called RAM1_. If you've never used ramdisks before, they're just like microdrives or floppy disks but exist only in the memory of the computer. As Tony said, if any part of a file copied with the FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' command is faulty, the filename will show up with a '*' character alongside it when you list the files with DIR RAM1_ As ramdisks are only 'temporary' media in memory, as soon as you have been able to copy the cartridges into RAM disks, you can then use WCOPY RAM1_ TO FLP1_ for example to copy the files to floppy disks. I assume you still have the manual for your Trump Card and Gold Card, if not, you can get copies from my website at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/manuals/index.html (scroll down to the Miracle Systems section). Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thanks for the super info. I'm successfully transferring from cart to disk. Of course the disk content will need to be amended from "mdv" to "flp" or I'll try the "flp use mdv" command whenever using one of these disks. Rod Hi Rod, You seem to be doing well ... :-) Dilwyn's web site is a "mine" of archived QL information and programs (or APPs). You can most updated versions of items from there, provided that you have the original versions, so you will only need to store from microdrive your own data. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
> From: dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:14:01 + > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum > > > > > I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - > > > part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. > > Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore > > after > > the 'mdv1' is optional. > > > > If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this > > under 'Microdrive Imaging'. > > > > > 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. > > RAM drive, of course. > I should have said as well, just to clarify: > > You can check if your QL has ramdisk simply by entering the command: > > DIR RAM1_ > It should show a result like: > > RAM1 > 100/100 sectors > > the title in the first line and the numbers in the second line may vary a > little, depending on exactly what system you have. The numbers refer to the > number of 512 byte sectors in the ramdisk - free sectors/total sectors. > > The command to make an image of a microdrive cartridge which has been placed > in microdrive drive 1 and to be copied to ramdisk RAM1_ is: > > FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' > > What this does is to make a sector by sector copy of the microdrive > cartridge, which it puts in the drive called RAM1_. If you've never used > ramdisks before, they're just like microdrives or floppy disks but exist > only in the memory of the computer. As Tony said, if any part of a file > copied with the FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' command is faulty, the filename will show > up with a '*' character alongside it when you list the files with DIR RAM1_ > > As ramdisks are only 'temporary' media in memory, as soon as you have been > able to copy the cartridges into RAM disks, you can then use WCOPY RAM1_ TO > FLP1_ for example to copy the files to floppy disks. > > I assume you still have the manual for your Trump Card and Gold Card, if > not, you can get copies from my website at > http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/manuals/index.html (scroll down to the Miracle > Systems section). > > Dilwyn Jones > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thanks for the super info. I'm successfully transferring from cart to disk. Of course the disk content will need to be amended from "mdv" to "flp" or I'll try the "flp use mdv" command whenever using one of these disks. Rod ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
> I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - > part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore after the 'mdv1' is optional. If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this under 'Microdrive Imaging'. > 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. RAM drive, of course. I should have said as well, just to clarify: You can check if your QL has ramdisk simply by entering the command: DIR RAM1_ It should show a result like: RAM1 100/100 sectors the title in the first line and the numbers in the second line may vary a little, depending on exactly what system you have. The numbers refer to the number of 512 byte sectors in the ramdisk - free sectors/total sectors. The command to make an image of a microdrive cartridge which has been placed in microdrive drive 1 and to be copied to ramdisk RAM1_ is: FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' What this does is to make a sector by sector copy of the microdrive cartridge, which it puts in the drive called RAM1_. If you've never used ramdisks before, they're just like microdrives or floppy disks but exist only in the memory of the computer. As Tony said, if any part of a file copied with the FORMAT 'ram1_mdv1' command is faulty, the filename will show up with a '*' character alongside it when you list the files with DIR RAM1_ As ramdisks are only 'temporary' media in memory, as soon as you have been able to copy the cartridges into RAM disks, you can then use WCOPY RAM1_ TO FLP1_ for example to copy the files to floppy disks. I assume you still have the manual for your Trump Card and Gold Card, if not, you can get copies from my website at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/manuals/index.html (scroll down to the Miracle Systems section). Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
Rod H wrote, on 26/Feb/12 21:54 | Feb26: From: dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:35:49 + Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore after the 'mdv1' is optional. If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this under 'Microdrive Imaging'. 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. RAM drive, of course. Welcome along Rod, nice to see you digging out the old QL again! As well as this mailing list, there's a QL Forum you could try as well - www.qlforum.co.uk > Thanks for the welcome and the advice. My Gold Card2 has the RAM1_ > command and seems to be doing the job...so far. Wish me luck! > I hate to bring this up again (little-enders vs big-enders) but I and others prefer bottom posting in mailing lists. The reason is that new readers can pick up a 'conversation' in its logical order. Reading backwards has always been difficult, for me at least (8-)# I should have said that you should copy out good files (no appended star) to another medium (preferably physical). Often good files can become bad on subsequent tries. It is sensible to copy to physical, as sometimes a bad microdrive can crash the machine. I suspect it is when a directory tree is corrupted. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 26/Feb/12 21:35 | Feb26: I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore after the 'mdv1' is optional. Whoops yes. I typed it *so* often with that recovery job, but that was years ago now! If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this under 'Microdrive Imaging'. He has a Gold Card which *definitely* has the command, of course. 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. RAM drive, of course. Welcome along Rod, nice to see you digging out the old QL again! As well as this mailing list, there's a QL Forum you could try as well - www.qlforum.co.uk Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Thanks for the prompt reply
Rod H wrote, on 26/Feb/12 21:32 | Feb26: Rod/ I have a stack of boxed QLs and some have acquired issues over the years - mainly with the microdrives becoming unreliable. I recently acquired an additional 10 QLs, 5 working and 5 non, and have been parceling them out to users, new and old, in Canada and the US. I also decided to thin out my own stash and then found the current issues. The RAM1_ command is not on my TK2 ROM or Trump Card so I'll look on my Gold Card interface. Thanks for that suggestion. I've tried to repair the foam pads but no joy. It is not a ram1_ command - that is simply the destination. It is a 'format' command. Gold Card (and SGC) definitely has it. Check the order. I am pretty 'mdv1_' comes last. Any suggestions for a QL that won't see it's m/drives at all? I reseated IC23 but to no affect. Everything else seems OK. Can you be more specific please. Do the drives spin at all, especially mdv1_ at boot. Any activity LED? Can you point me to the forum? Sorry no - I know little about it. ql-users will I am sure! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
Thanks for the welcome and the advice. My Gold Card2 has the RAM1_ command and seems to be doing the job...so far. Wish me luck! > From: dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:35:49 + > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum > > > I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - > > part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. > Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore after > the 'mdv1' is optional. > > If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this > under 'Microdrive Imaging'. > > > 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. > RAM drive, of course. > > Welcome along Rod, nice to see you digging out the old QL again! > > As well as this mailing list, there's a QL Forum you could try as well - > www.qlforum.co.uk > > Dilwyn Jones > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. Minor typo, no comma in it, between ram1_ and mdv1_ and the underscore after the 'mdv1' is optional. If you still have your Trump Card manual, look for further details of this under 'Microdrive Imaging'. 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. RAM drive, of course. Welcome along Rod, nice to see you digging out the old QL again! As well as this mailing list, there's a QL Forum you could try as well - www.qlforum.co.uk Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] New to the forum
Rod H wrote, on 26/Feb/12 21:01 | Feb26: Rod/ Hello, This is my first time on the QL forum so please be gentle. Welcome indeed. There is a separate 'Forum' which I am sure others will tell you about. This we call the 'Mailing List'. I've recently dug out my QL gear to sadly find that the years have not been kind to my microdrive carts, Just no quality anymore...it's only been 25 years! As I'm sure you all are aware, the little foam pad crumbles or falls off. I want to copy those carts that are still functioning before they give up the ghost. Can anyone give me a suggestion of a program that will simply copy my operable carts onto a disk. I use a Trump Card and 3.5 inch disks but some of my library are still on mdv cart. Wcopy does not work for all. Many thanks in advance, Rod Humphreys Delta, BC, Canada You are very lucky the hardware is working, especially the keyboard membrane. I don't know if your Trump Card has the "format ram1_,mdv1_" command - part of the Tony Tebby toolkits on interfaces. 'ram1_' part can be any valid drive. The beauty of this is that all sectors are copied, and any bad files have '*' appended. Further goes often recover more files. If the files are text (or basic) good parts can be read in a text editor. ... and it is quick. I once used this to recover data from about 100 mdvs owned by a Winchester archaeology group. I recovered about 95% of the data. ... and I bet the foam pads can be replaced. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] New to the forum
Hello, This is my first time on the QL forum so please be gentle. I've recently dug out my QL gear to sadly find that the years have not been kind to my microdrive carts, Just no quality anymore...it's only been 25 years! As I'm sure you all are aware, the little foam pad crumbles or falls off. I want to copy those carts that are still functioning before they give up the ghost. Can anyone give me a suggestion of a program that will simply copy my operable carts onto a disk. I use a Trump Card and 3.5 inch disks but some of my library are still on mdv cart. Wcopy does not work for all. Many thanks in advance, Rod Humphreys Delta, BC, Canada ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum
In message <204fa547-9def-4b0b-9920-afd3a733f...@gmail.com>, Lee Privett writes What will they think of next as the new hip thing - Progs? On 23 Feb 2012, at 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I’m having problems getting on QL Forum this morning – anyone else tried? Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check? Dilwyn Jones Hi Lee, Quite likely ... :-) I think that someone did not quite work out that making an Application accessible would become as popular as an App has become. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
