Re: [Ql-Users] R: SBASIC / SuperBASIC Reference Manual - Online (HTML)

2014-08-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
I have a STE but not a MegaSTE , different machines =)

And I once owned a Q40 and someone on this bought it.

On 12 August 2014 18:29, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:
> Is there no recent SMSQ/E for Q40? And why do you need an STE? I have
> assumed you have one...
>
> Cheers...Ralf
>
> From: "Michael Grunditz"
>
>
> Ok
>
> I can see now that I need a MegaSTE or a TT for VME cards.
> This makes me miss my working Q40 ..
>
> On 12 August 2014 18:02, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it does. The STE and the TT both have a VME port. At the last
>> meetings
>> in Eindhoven (Good old days...honestly missed) Jochen always had an STE
>> with
>> a QVME Card. I have used my QVME card with a VME-Adaptor in my MegaST 4.
>>
>> On the other hand: I am sure, that SMSQ/E is still working for an ST(E)/TT
>> with QVME, but I think, only Wolfgang Lenerz can tell, if there is an
>> updated version for the software-only version for it.
>>
>> Cheers...Ralf
>>
>> From: "Michael Grunditz"
>>
>>
>> By the way,,
>>
>> Does a QVME card work in a STE? I am interested in getting one if it
>> works.
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 17:28, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The monochrome version.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 August 2014 17:17, Ralf Reköndt wrote:


 As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME
 Card.
 What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or
 do
 you have an QVME?

 Cheers...Ralf

 - Original Message - From: "Michael Grunditz"


> Derek,
>
> Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
> needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.
>
> On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware
>> to
>> the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST
>>
>> QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus
>>
>> From Jochen Merz's web site:
>>
>> SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is
>> the
>> only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can
>> use
>> the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher
>> resolutions
>> or
>> even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will
>> generate
>> the original QL display organisation in hardware:
>>
>> Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires
>> the
>> ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and
>> 256x256
>> in
>> 8 colours.
>>
>> Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the
>> ZX8301
>> and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can
>> still
>> be
>> connected to original QL monitors.
>>
>> QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully
>> programmable
>> 4
>> colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
>> Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!
>>
>> ---
>>
>> So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
>> Resolution mode.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Derek,
>>>
>>> I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.
>>>
>>> On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart wrote:




 HI Michael,

 I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.

 I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can
 get
 them
 off the disks.

 What version of emulator hardware do you have.

 Regards,

 Derek


 On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Derek,
>
> The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
> SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
> GD2?
>
> Michael
>
> On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.
>>
>> The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So
>> you
>> can
>> not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.
>>
>> An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 August 2

Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Is there no recent SMSQ/E for Q40? And why do you need an STE? I have 
assumed you have one...


Cheers...Ralf

From: "Michael Grunditz"

Ok

I can see now that I need a MegaSTE or a TT for VME cards.
This makes me miss my working Q40 ..

On 12 August 2014 18:02, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
Yes, it does. The STE and the TT both have a VME port. At the last 
meetings
in Eindhoven (Good old days...honestly missed) Jochen always had an STE 
with

a QVME Card. I have used my QVME card with a VME-Adaptor in my MegaST 4.

On the other hand: I am sure, that SMSQ/E is still working for an ST(E)/TT
with QVME, but I think, only Wolfgang Lenerz can tell, if there is an
updated version for the software-only version for it.

Cheers...Ralf

From: "Michael Grunditz"


By the way,,

Does a QVME card work in a STE? I am interested in getting one if it 
works.


On 12 August 2014 17:28, Michael Grunditz wrote:


The monochrome version.

On 12 August 2014 17:17, Ralf Reköndt wrote:


As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME
Card.
What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or
do
you have an QVME?

Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - From: "Michael Grunditz"



Derek,

Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.

On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:



Hi Michael,

The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware
to
the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST

QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus

From Jochen Merz's web site:

SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is
the
only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can
use
the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher 
resolutions

or
even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will
generate
the original QL display organisation in hardware:

Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires
the
ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and
256x256
in
8 colours.

Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the
ZX8301
and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can
still
be
connected to original QL monitors.

QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully 
programmable

4
colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!

---

So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
Resolution mode.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:




Derek,

I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.

On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart wrote:




HI Michael,

I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.

I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can
get
them
off the disks.

What version of emulator hardware do you have.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:





Hi Derek,

The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
GD2?

Michael

On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart wrote:





Hi Michael,

There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So
you
can
not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.

An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

Regards,

Derek


On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:






On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler wrote:







On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz

wrote:


I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer
version.
I
can't even find the plain config program.







You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
produces
config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.








Thank you , the "config" program included works.
I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might
configure
the binary.
It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a
2.x
wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over 
the
existing one in SMSQ. 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
Ok

I can see now that I need a MegaSTE or a TT for VME cards.
This makes me miss my working Q40 ..

On 12 August 2014 18:02, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:
> Yes, it does. The STE and the TT both have a VME port. At the last meetings
> in Eindhoven (Good old days...honestly missed) Jochen always had an STE with
> a QVME Card. I have used my QVME card with a VME-Adaptor in my MegaST 4.
>
> On the other hand: I am sure, that SMSQ/E is still working for an ST(E)/TT
> with QVME, but I think, only Wolfgang Lenerz can tell, if there is an
> updated version for the software-only version for it.
>
> Cheers...Ralf
>
> From: "Michael Grunditz"
>
>
> By the way,,
>
> Does a QVME card work in a STE? I am interested in getting one if it works.
>
> On 12 August 2014 17:28, Michael Grunditz 
> wrote:
>>
>> The monochrome version.
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 17:17, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:
>>>
>>> As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME
>>> Card.
>>> What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or
>>> do
>>> you have an QVME?
>>>
>>> Cheers...Ralf
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Grunditz"
>>>
>>>
 Derek,

 Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
 needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.

 On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware
> to
> the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST
>
> QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus
>
> From Jochen Merz's web site:
>
> SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is
> the
> only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can
> use
> the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher resolutions
> or
> even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will
> generate
> the original QL display organisation in hardware:
>
> Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires
> the
> ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and
> 256x256
> in
> 8 colours.
>
> Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the
> ZX8301
> and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can
> still
> be
> connected to original QL monitors.
>
> QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable
> 4
> colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
> Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!
>
> ---
>
> So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
> Resolution mode.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Derek,
>>
>> I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HI Michael,
>>>
>>> I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.
>>>
>>> I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can
>>> get
>>> them
>>> off the disks.
>>>
>>> What version of emulator hardware do you have.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:




 Hi Derek,

 The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
 SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
 GD2?

 Michael

 On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.
>
> The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So
> you
> can
> not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.
>
> An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer
 version.
 I
 can't even find the plain config program.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
>>> produces
>>> config blocks for BASIC

Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Yes, it does. The STE and the TT both have a VME port. At the last meetings 
in Eindhoven (Good old days...honestly missed) Jochen always had an STE with 
a QVME Card. I have used my QVME card with a VME-Adaptor in my MegaST 4.


On the other hand: I am sure, that SMSQ/E is still working for an ST(E)/TT 
with QVME, but I think, only Wolfgang Lenerz can tell, if there is an 
updated version for the software-only version for it.


Cheers...Ralf

From: "Michael Grunditz"

By the way,,

Does a QVME card work in a STE? I am interested in getting one if it works.

On 12 August 2014 17:28, Michael Grunditz  
wrote:

The monochrome version.

On 12 August 2014 17:17, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:
As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME 
Card.
What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or 
do

you have an QVME?

Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - From: "Michael Grunditz"



Derek,

Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.

On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:


Hi Michael,

The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware 
to

the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST

QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus

From Jochen Merz's web site:

SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is
the
only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can
use
the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher resolutions
or
even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will 
generate

the original QL display organisation in hardware:

Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires 
the
ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and 
256x256

in
8 colours.

Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the
ZX8301
and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can 
still

be
connected to original QL monitors.

QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable 
4

colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!

---

So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
Resolution mode.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:



Derek,

I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.

On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:



HI Michael,

I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.

I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can 
get

them
off the disks.

What version of emulator hardware do you have.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:




Hi Derek,

The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
GD2?

Michael

On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:




Hi Michael,

There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So
you
can
not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.

An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

Regards,

Derek


On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:





On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:






On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz

wrote:


I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer
version.
I
can't even find the plain config program.






You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
produces
config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.







Thank you , the "config" program included works.
I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might
configure
the binary.
It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 
2.x

wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
By the way,,

Does a QVME card work in a STE? I am interested in getting one if it works.

On 12 August 2014 17:28, Michael Grunditz  wrote:
> The monochrome version.
>
> On 12 August 2014 17:17, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:
>> As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME Card.
>> What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or do
>> you have an QVME?
>>
>> Cheers...Ralf
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Grunditz"
>>
>>
>>> Derek,
>>>
>>> Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
>>> needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.
>>>
>>> On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:

 Hi Michael,

 The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware to
 the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST

 QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus

 From Jochen Merz's web site:

 SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is
 the
 only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can
 use
 the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher resolutions
 or
 even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will generate
 the original QL display organisation in hardware:

 Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires the
 ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and 256x256
 in
 8 colours.

 Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the
 ZX8301
 and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can still
 be
 connected to original QL monitors.

 QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable 4
 colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
 Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!

 ---

 So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
 Resolution mode.

 Regards,

 Derek


 On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>
>
> Derek,
>
> I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.
>
> On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>
>>
>> HI Michael,
>>
>> I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.
>>
>> I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get
>> them
>> off the disks.
>>
>> What version of emulator hardware do you have.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Derek,
>>>
>>> The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
>>> SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
>>> GD2?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:



 Hi Michael,

 There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

 The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So
 you
 can
 not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.

 An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

 Regards,

 Derek


 On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer
>>> version.
>>> I
>>> can't even find the plain config program.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
>> produces
>> config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you , the "config" program included works.
> I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might
> configure
> the binary.
> It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.
>
> I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
> wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
> existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] R: SBASIC / SuperBASIC Reference Manual - Online (HTML)

2014-08-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Rich,

I wasn't moaning, honest. I'll do what I can to help. I know what a chore this 
sort of thing can be. I did a Doc book version of the Qptr manual to create 
him,  put,  ebook etc forms of the docs, and was "usurped" by Wolfgang!

We settled amicably .  :-)

It's probably best to wait until the automatic translation is completed though. 

I'll see you on the forum.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Recovering deleted files from a QXL

2014-08-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 12 August 2014 14:29:03 BST, Michael Bulford  
wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>
>Does anyone know whether there is any software around that can recover
>a deleted file from a QXL? 
>
>Assuming not, could a program be written to do so?  I assume it cannot
>be done in S*BASIC, but how about machine code?  Would anyone like to
>try?  The format of how the data is stored would have to be known.  I
>would imagine this could be an interesting program to write.
>
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I think Simon did an undelete for floppies way back in DIY Toolkit. I'm sure 
this is still available for download. 

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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
The monochrome version.

On 12 August 2014 17:17, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:
> As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME Card.
> What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or do
> you have an QVME?
>
> Cheers...Ralf
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Grunditz"
>
>
>> Derek,
>>
>> Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
>> needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware to
>>> the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST
>>>
>>> QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus
>>>
>>> From Jochen Merz's web site:
>>>
>>> SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is
>>> the
>>> only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can
>>> use
>>> the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher resolutions
>>> or
>>> even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will generate
>>> the original QL display organisation in hardware:
>>>
>>> Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires the
>>> ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and 256x256
>>> in
>>> 8 colours.
>>>
>>> Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the
>>> ZX8301
>>> and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can still
>>> be
>>> connected to original QL monitors.
>>>
>>> QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable 4
>>> colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
>>> Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
>>> Resolution mode.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:


 Derek,

 I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.

 On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>
>
> HI Michael,
>
> I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.
>
> I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get
> them
> off the disks.
>
> What version of emulator hardware do you have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Derek,
>>
>> The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
>> SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
>> GD2?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.
>>>
>>> The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So
>>> you
>>> can
>>> not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.
>>>
>>> An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:




 On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz
> 
> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer
>> version.
>> I
>> can't even find the plain config program.
>
>
>
>
>
> You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
> produces
> config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.






 Thank you , the "config" program included works.
 I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might
 configure
 the binary.
 It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

 I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
 wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
 existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Ralf Reköndt
As you said, having an STE, there only was the way of using the QVME Card. 
What have you used up until now? The monochrome software-only version or do 
you have an QVME?


Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Grunditz"



Derek,

Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.

On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:

Hi Michael,

The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware to
the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST

QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus

From Jochen Merz's web site:

SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is 
the
only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can 
use
the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher resolutions 
or

even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will generate
the original QL display organisation in hardware:

Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires the
ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and 256x256 
in

8 colours.

Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the 
ZX8301
and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can still 
be

connected to original QL monitors.

QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable 4
colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!

---

So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
Resolution mode.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:


Derek,

I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.

On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:


HI Michael,

I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.

I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get
them
off the disks.

What version of emulator hardware do you have.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:



Hi Derek,

The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
GD2?

Michael

On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:



Hi Michael,

There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So 
you

can
not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.

An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

Regards,

Derek


On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:




On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:





On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz

wrote:

I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer 
version.

I
can't even find the plain config program.





You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
produces
config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.






Thank you , the "config" program included works.
I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might 
configure

the binary.
It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
Derek,

Thats what I do now with a ancient SMSQ/E. But most "modern" programs
needs GD2, thats why I want to upgrade.

On 12 August 2014 15:35, Derek Stewart  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware to
> the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST
>
> QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus
>
> From Jochen Merz's web site:
>
> SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is the
> only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You can use
> the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher resolutions or
> even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware which will generate
> the original QL display organisation in hardware:
>
> Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires the
> ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and 256x256 in
> 8 colours.
>
> Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the ZX8301
> and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. Can still be
> connected to original QL monitors.
>
> QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable 4
> colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels.
> Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!
>
> ---
>
> So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High
> Resolution mode.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>> Derek,
>>
>> I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>>
>>> HI Michael,
>>>
>>> I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.
>>>
>>> I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get
>>> them
>>> off the disks.
>>>
>>> What version of emulator hardware do you have.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:


 Hi Derek,

 The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
 SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
 GD2?

 Michael

 On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.
>
> The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So you
> can
> not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.
>
> An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer version.
 I
 can't even find the plain config program.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig
>>> produces
>>> config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you , the "config" program included works.
>> I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might configure
>> the binary.
>> It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.
>>
>> I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
>> wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
>> existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Derek Stewart

Hi Michael,

The only Atari ST QL Emulator software I have work with added hardware 
to the Atari, that is; Atari STFM, STF, Mega ST


QVME board is added to the Atari TT, STE VME bus

From Jochen Merz's web site:

SMSQ/E emulates the display in the monochrome 640x400, because this is 
the only resolution which is greater or equal to the QL's 512x256. You 
can use the full resolution, even from BASIC. If you require higher 
resolutions or even higher compatibility, you can use extra hardware 
which will generate the original QL display organisation in hardware:


Original QL-Emulator for the ATARI: only for ST and Mega ST, requires 
the ZX8301 display chip of the QL. Emulates 512x256 in 4 colours and 
256x256 in 8 colours.


Extended QL-Emulator: only for ST and Mega ST. Does not require the 
ZX8301 and gives 512x256 in 4 colours and 768x280 pixels in 4 colours. 
Can still be connected to original QL monitors.


QVME: plugs into the VME bus of the Mega STE and TT. Fully programmable 
4 colour modes from 512x256 up to 1280x900 in multiples of 8 pixels. 
Horizontal and vertical frequencies are programmable too!


---

So I guess you could run monochrome 640x400 on the Atari STE in High 
Resolution mode.


Regards,

Derek

On 12/08/14 14:12, Michael Grunditz wrote:

Derek,

I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.

On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:

HI Michael,

I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.

I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get them
off the disks.

What version of emulator hardware do you have.

Regards,

Derek


On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:


Hi Derek,

The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
GD2?

Michael

On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:


Hi Michael,

There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So you
can
not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.

An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

Regards,

Derek


On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:



On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:




On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz 
wrote:


I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer version. I
can't even find the plain config program.




You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig produces
config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.





Thank you , the "config" program included works.
I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might configure
the binary.
It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
existing one in SMSQ.
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[Ql-Users] Recovering deleted files from a QXL

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Bulford
Hi everybody,

Does anyone know whether there is any software around that can recover a 
deleted file from a QXL? 

Assuming not, could a program be written to do so?  I assume it cannot be done 
in S*BASIC, but how about machine code?  Would anyone like to try?  The format 
of how the data is stored would have to be known.  I would imagine this could 
be an interesting program to write.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
Derek,

I am using a standard 520STe with 4M ram.

On 12 August 2014 14:41, Derek Stewart  wrote:
> HI Michael,
>
> I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.
>
> I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get them
> off the disks.
>
> What version of emulator hardware do you have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Derek,
>>
>> The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
>> SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
>> GD2?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.
>>>
>>> The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So you
>>> can
>>> not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.
>>>
>>> An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:


 On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz 
> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer version. I
>> can't even find the plain config program.
>
>
>
> You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig produces
> config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.




 Thank you , the "config" program included works.
 I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might configure
 the binary.
 It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

 I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
 wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
 existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Derek Stewart

HI Michael,

I have a couple of Atari machines, but not used them in a long time.

I have some QL Emulator disks for the Atari ST, I will see if I can get 
them off the disks.


What version of emulator hardware do you have.

Regards,

Derek

On 12/08/14 09:53, Michael Grunditz wrote:

Hi Derek,

The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
GD2?

Michael

On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:

Hi Michael,

There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So you can
not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.

An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

Regards,

Derek


On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:


On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:



On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz 
wrote:


I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer version. I
can't even find the plain config program.



You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig produces
config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.




Thank you , the "config" program included works.
I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might configure
the binary.
It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Grunditz
Hi Derek,

The problem with the Atari platform is that no recent versions of
SMSQ/E works. Does anyone have a binary of the oldest version with
GD2?

Michael

On 12 August 2014 10:40, Derek Stewart  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.
>
> The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So you can
> not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.
>
> An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>
>> On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer version. I
 can't even find the plain config program.
>>>
>>>
>>> You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig produces
>>> config blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you , the "config" program included works.
>> I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might configure
>> the binary.
>> It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.
>>
>> I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
>> wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
>> existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Config tool

2014-08-12 Thread Derek Stewart

Hi Michael,

There is Menuconfig and Config on Dilwyn's Web site for download.

The Atari SMSQ/E has PTR_GEN, WMAN, HOT-REXT built into SMSQ/E. So you 
can not load in a new version of the PTR_GEN.


An updated version of SMSQ/E from the SMSQ/E web site is required.

Regards,

Derek

On 11/08/14 20:05, Michael Grunditz wrote:

On 11 August 2014 18:49, gdgqler  wrote:


On 11 Aug 2014, at 16:03, Michael Grunditz  wrote:


I am looking for a config tool , menuconfig or the pointer version. I
can't even find the plain config program.


You could try uconfig from my website gwiltprogs.info. uconfig produces config 
blocks for BASIC, C and assembler.



Thank you , the "config" program included works.
I am fighting Atari SMSQ/E again , and thought that I might configure
the binary.
It is a PRG file so I think it shouldn't work and it doesn't.

I have also tried to lrespr in a new ptr_gen in order to load a 2.x
wman. No luck , it seems like I cannot load a new ptr_gen over the
existing one in SMSQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] R: SBASIC / SuperBASIC Reference Manual - Online (HTML)

2014-08-12 Thread Rich Mellor (RWAP)
Hi Robert,

Yes please send it to me for uploading - however, please bear in mind that we
are still working on the automated translation program, especially when it comes
to some of the international characters, so it might be worth holding off manual
translation for now, until we get to the point where we feel the automatic
translation cannot be improved upon.

Rich

> On August 12, 2014 at 8:04 AM Robert Newson  wrote:
>
>
> On 11/08/14 13:23, Rich Mellor wrote:
> > On 11/08/2014 11:45, Robert Newson wrote:
> >> On 11/08/14 09:56, Rich Mellor wrote:
> ...
> > Thanks for the suggestions - hopefully this should now have fixed the
> > CSS issues - I managed to do it without specifying a percentage width...
>
> I randomly clicked on one of the sidebar links and got up Appendix 16
> which was full of colour tables, program examples and a couple of diagrams.
>
> I've had a "little" play with the html to tidy it up and got it to
> display in some reasonable format - would you like me to send you a copy
> of the revised version?
>
> I could possibly have a bit of time (excellent procrastination fodder)
> to have a look at some of the other files
>
> Robert
Rich Mellor
RWAP Software
www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
www.sellmyretro.com
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