Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, 

Hmm, when I do that here, I get value out of range, wich seems reasonable

Wolfgang
 
  try OPEN#3,con
   BORDER#3,2400,2
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-29 Thread gdgqler


On 29 Oct 2009, at 10:42, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:



Hmm, when I do that here, I get value out of range, wich seems  
reasonable


Wolfgang


try OPEN#3,con
BORDER#3,2400,2


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What is the QLsize? What are scr_xlim and scr_ylim? I certainly get  
value out of range for smaller values or border size. But try  
BORDER#4,32000,2 for example.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-29 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
 Hmm, when I do that here, I get value out of range, wich seems reasonable

I get that two, on the first try. On the second directly afterwards it
crashes ;-) No time to investigate, though, need to work on my
presentation for QL is 25...

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-28 Thread gdgqler


On 27 Oct 2009, at 19:25, P Witte wrote:



I would be happy myself with a 2048x2048 limit. I suppose I was  
just testing that some of my programs actually take whatever size  
is presented without limit (except of course ram size). Perhaps  
others might want an even bigger limit for QPC2!


There are some other unexpected limits though. FILL appears to have  
a problem at higher resolutions. I havent tested what the limits  
might be, I only know that there doesnt seem to be any problem with  
FILL on my 1280x768 screen, while on a 1640x1050 it certainly  
crashes QPC. This is probably downt to a Qdos/Smsqe issue.


Another way to crash QPC2/SMSQE seems to be to set BORDER to be too  
big. Ie so big it covers more than the window.


George (AKA Giggler)
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-28 Thread gdgqler


On 28 Oct 2009, at 09:49, gdgqler wrote:



Another way to crash QPC2/SMSQE seems to be to set BORDER to be too  
big. Ie so big it covers more than the window.




try OPEN#3,con
 BORDER#3,2400,2

and see what happens.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Another way to crash QPC2/SMSQE seems to be to set BORDER to be too
big. Ie so big it covers more than the window.



try OPEN#3,con
 BORDER#3,2400,2

and see what happens.

George

Oops, I see what you mean.

Windoze XP Pro had a slight fit and threatened to report QPC to Mr 
Gates


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-27 Thread gdgqler


On 26 Oct 2009, at 17:33, Marcel Kilgus wrote:


gdgqler wrote:

I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before.
The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size.


It has? I'm currently not aware of any practical limits, except memory
of course. What resolution did you try?



The highest allowed is 2560x1920. However, I now can't reproduce the  
limit message. I am running QPC2 under Windows XP running under the  
virtual machine provided by VWware on an Apple Mac. There are so many  
layers that it is not easy to see which one is complaining.



The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was
accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly.


Sounds more like a graphic driver problem to me.


When I try again to get SHIFT/CTRL/F12 to work it does so perfectly  
well. I think that any fault is very unlikely then to be due to QPC2.  
However, if I find more peculiarities I'll report.


George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-27 Thread gdgqler


On 26 Oct 2009, at 17:39, François Van Emelen wrote:

QPC2 works fine with a scrren size of 1680x945 (vista). I don't know  
about Shift/CTRL/F12 as I have never used it.


SHIFT/CTRL/F12 sets the QL screen to fill the whole PC window. All the  
Windows buttons for delete, buttonise etc are not there. I used this  
first when giving a talk to show a better looking view of the QL.  
Pressing SHIFT/CTRL/F12 again reverts to the more usual QL being just  
another program shown on the windows screen.


I now use this regularly. It makes me forget that windows is there.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-27 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote:
 The highest allowed is 2560x1920. However, I now can't reproduce the
 limit message.

Ah, I see that I've limited the SMSQ/E config block item to 2048x2048,
I guess my configuration dialog check these limits automatically, too.
In my defense, I did write that block in times where 800x600 was
considered normal. ;-) This can easily be changed if you like.

 When I try again to get SHIFT/CTRL/F12 to work it does so perfectly
 well. I think that any fault is very unlikely then to be due to QPC2.
 However, if I find more peculiarities I'll report.

Getting this to work reliably was a nightmare anyway. Now a further
problem seems to be that programs that do fullscreen like QPC seem to
become less and less common and graphics drivers get worse and worse
in their support. At least that's my feeling.

But in the times of LCD screens it's becoming less and less useful
anyway, as they only look good in their native resolution.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-27 Thread P Witte



Giggler writes:


I would be happy myself with a 2048x2048 limit. I suppose I was just 
testing that some of my programs actually take whatever size is 
presented without limit (except of course ram size). Perhaps others 
might want an even bigger limit for QPC2!


There are some other unexpected limits though. FILL appears to have a 
problem at higher resolutions. I havent tested what the limits might 
be, I only know that there doesnt seem to be any problem with FILL on 
my 1280x768 screen, while on a 1640x1050 it certainly crashes QPC. 
This is probably downt to a Qdos/Smsqe issue.


Per
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-27 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote:
 There are some other unexpected limits though.

Good thinking, yes. Haven't thought of that but you're certainly
right. The resolutions now boldly go where no QL has gone before, so
all kind of previously hidden limits might be triggered.

 FILL appears to have a problem at higher resolutions. I havent
 tested what the limits might be, I only know that there doesnt seem
 to be any problem with FILL on my 1280x768 screen, while on a
 1640x1050 it certainly crashes QPC. This is probably downt to a
 Qdos/Smsqe issue.

The fill buffer is currently only good for 1024 lines, so this crash
was a close one ;-)

Marcel

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[Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread gdgqler
I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before.  
The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The  
second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was  
accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly.  
Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was  
just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the  
proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12?


George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote:
 I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before.
 The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size.

It has? I'm currently not aware of any practical limits, except memory
of course. What resolution did you try?

 The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was
 accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly.

Sounds more like a graphic driver problem to me.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread François Van Emelen

gdgqler schreef:
I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The 
first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second 
thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by 
QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the 
whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does 
anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of 
SHIFT/CTRL/F12?


George
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QPC2 works fine with a scrren size of 1680x945 (vista). I don't know 
about Shift/CTRL/F12 as I have never used it.

François Van Emelen

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-26 Thread matrassyl

 Hi George

I have windows XP on a 1680x1050 resolution and QPC2 - 3.13 on an 800x600 
resolution. CTRL/Shift/F12 pops the QPC2 window to cover the complete XP 
display 

Duncan

 

 

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I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first 
thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed 
was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys 
SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen 
being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL 
screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? 
 

George 

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