Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
Hi, Hmm, when I do that here, I get value out of range, wich seems reasonable Wolfgang try OPEN#3,con BORDER#3,2400,2 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
On 29 Oct 2009, at 10:42, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Hmm, when I do that here, I get value out of range, wich seems reasonable Wolfgang try OPEN#3,con BORDER#3,2400,2 ___ What is the QLsize? What are scr_xlim and scr_ylim? I certainly get value out of range for smaller values or border size. But try BORDER#4,32000,2 for example. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Hmm, when I do that here, I get value out of range, wich seems reasonable I get that two, on the first try. On the second directly afterwards it crashes ;-) No time to investigate, though, need to work on my presentation for QL is 25... Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
On 27 Oct 2009, at 19:25, P Witte wrote: I would be happy myself with a 2048x2048 limit. I suppose I was just testing that some of my programs actually take whatever size is presented without limit (except of course ram size). Perhaps others might want an even bigger limit for QPC2! There are some other unexpected limits though. FILL appears to have a problem at higher resolutions. I havent tested what the limits might be, I only know that there doesnt seem to be any problem with FILL on my 1280x768 screen, while on a 1640x1050 it certainly crashes QPC. This is probably downt to a Qdos/Smsqe issue. Another way to crash QPC2/SMSQE seems to be to set BORDER to be too big. Ie so big it covers more than the window. George (AKA Giggler) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
On 28 Oct 2009, at 09:49, gdgqler wrote: Another way to crash QPC2/SMSQE seems to be to set BORDER to be too big. Ie so big it covers more than the window. try OPEN#3,con BORDER#3,2400,2 and see what happens. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
Another way to crash QPC2/SMSQE seems to be to set BORDER to be too big. Ie so big it covers more than the window. try OPEN#3,con BORDER#3,2400,2 and see what happens. George Oops, I see what you mean. Windoze XP Pro had a slight fit and threatened to report QPC to Mr Gates Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
On 26 Oct 2009, at 17:33, Marcel Kilgus wrote: gdgqler wrote: I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. It has? I'm currently not aware of any practical limits, except memory of course. What resolution did you try? The highest allowed is 2560x1920. However, I now can't reproduce the limit message. I am running QPC2 under Windows XP running under the virtual machine provided by VWware on an Apple Mac. There are so many layers that it is not easy to see which one is complaining. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Sounds more like a graphic driver problem to me. When I try again to get SHIFT/CTRL/F12 to work it does so perfectly well. I think that any fault is very unlikely then to be due to QPC2. However, if I find more peculiarities I'll report. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
On 26 Oct 2009, at 17:39, François Van Emelen wrote: QPC2 works fine with a scrren size of 1680x945 (vista). I don't know about Shift/CTRL/F12 as I have never used it. SHIFT/CTRL/F12 sets the QL screen to fill the whole PC window. All the Windows buttons for delete, buttonise etc are not there. I used this first when giving a talk to show a better looking view of the QL. Pressing SHIFT/CTRL/F12 again reverts to the more usual QL being just another program shown on the windows screen. I now use this regularly. It makes me forget that windows is there. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
gdgqler wrote: The highest allowed is 2560x1920. However, I now can't reproduce the limit message. Ah, I see that I've limited the SMSQ/E config block item to 2048x2048, I guess my configuration dialog check these limits automatically, too. In my defense, I did write that block in times where 800x600 was considered normal. ;-) This can easily be changed if you like. When I try again to get SHIFT/CTRL/F12 to work it does so perfectly well. I think that any fault is very unlikely then to be due to QPC2. However, if I find more peculiarities I'll report. Getting this to work reliably was a nightmare anyway. Now a further problem seems to be that programs that do fullscreen like QPC seem to become less and less common and graphics drivers get worse and worse in their support. At least that's my feeling. But in the times of LCD screens it's becoming less and less useful anyway, as they only look good in their native resolution. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
Giggler writes: I would be happy myself with a 2048x2048 limit. I suppose I was just testing that some of my programs actually take whatever size is presented without limit (except of course ram size). Perhaps others might want an even bigger limit for QPC2! There are some other unexpected limits though. FILL appears to have a problem at higher resolutions. I havent tested what the limits might be, I only know that there doesnt seem to be any problem with FILL on my 1280x768 screen, while on a 1640x1050 it certainly crashes QPC. This is probably downt to a Qdos/Smsqe issue. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
P Witte wrote: There are some other unexpected limits though. Good thinking, yes. Haven't thought of that but you're certainly right. The resolutions now boldly go where no QL has gone before, so all kind of previously hidden limits might be triggered. FILL appears to have a problem at higher resolutions. I havent tested what the limits might be, I only know that there doesnt seem to be any problem with FILL on my 1280x768 screen, while on a 1640x1050 it certainly crashes QPC. This is probably downt to a Qdos/Smsqe issue. The fill buffer is currently only good for 1024 lines, so this crash was a close one ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
gdgqler wrote: I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. It has? I'm currently not aware of any practical limits, except memory of course. What resolution did you try? The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Sounds more like a graphic driver problem to me. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
gdgqler schreef: I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm QPC2 works fine with a scrren size of 1680x945 (vista). I don't know about Shift/CTRL/F12 as I have never used it. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size
Hi George I have windows XP on a 1680x1050 resolution and QPC2 - 3.13 on an 800x600 resolution. CTRL/Shift/F12 pops the QPC2 window to cover the complete XP display Duncan -Original Message- From: gdgqler gdgq...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:11 Subject: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size I now have access to a larger screen size of Windows XP than before. The first thing I noticed was that QPC2 had a limit on size. The second thing I noticed was that although a fairly large size was accepted by QPC2 the keys SHIFT/CTRL/F12 failed to work correctly. Instead of the whole Windows screen being filled with QL, the area was just black. Does anyone know the limit of QL screen size for the proper working of SHIFT/CTRL/F12? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm