Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-17 Thread Dave Park
I've made plans with Doug and we've worked out a date for me to pick up the
items.

I'm looking forward to it. ROAD TRIP!

Dave


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Timothy Swenson swenso...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 On 1/15/2013 11:10 PM, extdgl42 wrote:

 Dave gets first dibs.


 Like there will be a rush to Oakridge to get this stuff :-)

 Would it be a race between Paul H. and Dave P.?  Who else is in that
 general area?  Maybe some of the old CATS folks from D.C.?  A long shot are
 any NESQLUG folks in Mass.

 I'm out as it is about 2,500 miles from California to Tennessee.

 Tim Swenson


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-16 Thread Timothy Swenson

On 1/15/2013 11:10 PM, extdgl42 wrote:

Dave gets first dibs.


Like there will be a rush to Oakridge to get this stuff :-)

Would it be a race between Paul H. and Dave P.?  Who else is in that 
general area?  Maybe some of the old CATS folks from D.C.?  A long shot 
are any NESQLUG folks in Mass.


I'm out as it is about 2,500 miles from California to Tennessee.

Tim Swenson

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-15 Thread extdgl42
Dave,
Here's the list I sent to ql-users a day or two ago, but which seems not to 
have hit the list yet.

QL Freebies List:
Stack of four boxed Black Boxes and one unboxed B.B. + 3 power supplies; QL 
Home Finance  other s/w; dual 3.5 drive; unused membranes; one GC. Some of 
the foregoing boxes have manuals  power supplies.

One Acorn RGB Vision III monitor  power box/strip.

Quanta Magazine Vols. 1-22, boxed.

Tower system of forgotten components. This likely is the Aurora+backplane+etc 
system my dad, RIP, worked on hard to try to get running.

I am _keeping_ two SGC systems--the minitower w/ quad floppies  my 1st Black 
Box (for which I need to buy a working dual floppy drive).

There are even non-QL items, such as IDE drives I will never use again. Even 
some Mac items possibly.

Taker is free to re-sell things they pick up. But, strongly want to dispose of 
to one person/one pickup  not fragment the lot and increase the likelihood of 
orphans  increase the difficulty of getting these out of the house.

Thanks: Doug LaVerne 37830 USA
QL FOREVER!

Dave gets first dibs.


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From: Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:27 AM, extdgl42 externa...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Doug LaVerne 37830 USA

 BTW, I have an extensive list upcoming of freebies for anyone willing to
 pick up, southern USA (e.g. five Black Boxes still in original packing
 boxes). No shipping, pickup only; likely someone in eastern USA. Paul? Or
 the New Orleans fellow?


I would happily drive from Austin, TX for a couple of QLs (I have good uses
for them) or maybe a floppy drive (something I desperately lack on the QL
and can't find with a US-friendly power supply)...

Dave
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-14 Thread extdgl42
May I give an amen (or me too :-) ) to Lee. I was in computers for 34+ 
years (now retired) and approve maintaining perspective and keeping 
possibilities for individuals open.

Doug LaVerne 37830 USA

BTW, I have an extensive list upcoming of freebies for anyone willing to pick 
up, southern USA (e.g. five Black Boxes still in original packing boxes). No 
shipping, pickup only; likely someone in eastern USA. Paul? Or the New Orleans 
fellow?


-Original Message-
From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 10, 2013 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

I concur, as well as any QL related articles, feedback positive or
otherwise gives atleast  an indication of something that has prompted
people in to a response. Norman, I read your Black Hole article with
interest on the DVD collection last year and likewise there are articles
about machine code, assembler, C etc. that I struggle to understand (being
more of a S*BASIC fan/user), does not mean I dont enjoy reading them, I do.

May I point also out that as the Sinclair QL approaches its 30th year, and
that today the C5 was launched (ahem) according to the radio and wikipedia
in 1985. To encourage new and possibly returning people to the auspices of
the QL and systems, the retelling, updating or reiterating such articles in
todays fast paced society wouldn't do any harm if contextulised well.  As
Geoff mentioned about games, other than IT support industry, careers
involving computers are fairly similar, if you want to get into the
Computer Games Industry (which has seen the biggest growth in recent years)
as a programmer there are several ways in which you can do this by learning
machine code, assembler high level languages based around the 'C' family as
already mentioned. However a knowledge of retro computing; skills in a
procedural language; being able to program in other languages as well as
those expected, could do just that.

May I make a plea for such contributions to either magazine, it is much
needed and welcomed.

Regards

Lee Privett
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.comwrote:



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 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:55 AM
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey


  As an author of a couple of articles in QL Today over the past 16 volumes
 (That's 16.5 years - my first article was The Black Hole in Volume 1,
 Issue 2 in July/August 1996!) I'm wondering, who (other than George)
 actually reads my stuff?

 Anyone?

 Is it useful? Do you make use of it? What could be better? What would you
 like to see? Etc.

 Just wondering, that is all.


 It is not just on your articles I would like feedback. There has been more
 emphasis on hardware in the last couple of years. Is this what people want?
 More recently we have had more coverage on games - a largely forgotten area
 in the magazines. I am also concerned about the lack of SuperBasic and
 general articles.

 Even if you don't want to write yourself it is always useful to have ideas.

 I am sure these comments would be echoed by the Quanta Magazine. I think I
 am the only person to have ever commented on the successful efforts that
 have been made to have a regular helpline,

 Best Wishes,


 Geoff

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-14 Thread Dave Park
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:27 AM, extdgl42 externa...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Doug LaVerne 37830 USA

 BTW, I have an extensive list upcoming of freebies for anyone willing to
 pick up, southern USA (e.g. five Black Boxes still in original packing
 boxes). No shipping, pickup only; likely someone in eastern USA. Paul? Or
 the New Orleans fellow?


I would happily drive from Austin, TX for a couple of QLs (I have good uses
for them) or maybe a floppy drive (something I desperately lack on the QL
and can't find with a US-friendly power supply)...

Dave
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-10 Thread Jochen Merz
Yes, it's me!! I always read it why I do the layout. And of course, I 
find it interesting and amusing ... and I somehow miss the times where I 
had time to write machine-code.


I wonder if I could do it, over 10 years without practice.

So, reading the code refreshes my mind, as I still understand most of it 
:-)))


Cheers   Jochen


Norman Dunbar schrieb:

As an author of a couple of articles in QL Today over the past 16
volumes (That's 16.5 years - my first article was The Black Hole in
Volume 1, Issue 2 in July/August 1996!) I'm wondering, who (other than
George) actually reads my stuff?

Anyone?

Is it useful? Do you make use of it? What could be better? What would
you like to see? Etc.

Just wondering, that is all.


Cheers,
Norm.



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-10 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 10/01/13 11:33, Tony Firshman wrote:


It is great that this very good programming keeps being done, even if
only you and George understand (8-)#

Trust me, if it wasn't for George, I wouldn't understand it either! ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.

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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-10 Thread Lee Privett
I concur, as well as any QL related articles, feedback positive or
otherwise gives atleast  an indication of something that has prompted
people in to a response. Norman, I read your Black Hole article with
interest on the DVD collection last year and likewise there are articles
about machine code, assembler, C etc. that I struggle to understand (being
more of a S*BASIC fan/user), does not mean I dont enjoy reading them, I do.

May I point also out that as the Sinclair QL approaches its 30th year, and
that today the C5 was launched (ahem) according to the radio and wikipedia
in 1985. To encourage new and possibly returning people to the auspices of
the QL and systems, the retelling, updating or reiterating such articles in
todays fast paced society wouldn't do any harm if contextulised well.  As
Geoff mentioned about games, other than IT support industry, careers
involving computers are fairly similar, if you want to get into the
Computer Games Industry (which has seen the biggest growth in recent years)
as a programmer there are several ways in which you can do this by learning
machine code, assembler high level languages based around the 'C' family as
already mentioned. However a knowledge of retro computing; skills in a
procedural language; being able to program in other languages as well as
those expected, could do just that.

May I make a plea for such contributions to either magazine, it is much
needed and welcomed.

Regards

Lee Privett
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.comwrote:



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 From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:55 AM
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey


  As an author of a couple of articles in QL Today over the past 16 volumes
 (That's 16.5 years - my first article was The Black Hole in Volume 1,
 Issue 2 in July/August 1996!) I'm wondering, who (other than George)
 actually reads my stuff?

 Anyone?

 Is it useful? Do you make use of it? What could be better? What would you
 like to see? Etc.

 Just wondering, that is all.


 It is not just on your articles I would like feedback. There has been more
 emphasis on hardware in the last couple of years. Is this what people want?
 More recently we have had more coverage on games - a largely forgotten area
 in the magazines. I am also concerned about the lack of SuperBasic and
 general articles.

 Even if you don't want to write yourself it is always useful to have ideas.

 I am sure these comments would be echoed by the Quanta Magazine. I think I
 am the only person to have ever commented on the successful efforts that
 have been made to have a regular helpline,

 Best Wishes,


 Geoff

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

2013-01-10 Thread George Gwilt

On 10 Jan 2013, at 12:29, Geoff Wicks wrote:

 
 It is not just on your articles I would like feedback. There has been more 
 emphasis on hardware in the last couple of years. Is this what people want? 
 More recently we have had more coverage on games - a largely forgotten area 
 in the magazines. I am also concerned about the lack of SuperBasic and 
 general articles.

I find myself using Assembler rather more now than  SuperBASIC mainly as a 
result of Norman's articles.

George
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