Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-18 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 18/10/02 17:11:51 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


... not the original clear plastic membrane, in the first 1000 or so
units.
That is very very durable, and I use for testing QLs.
Of course it could fail, but only, I think, if attacked.

That sort of plastic should be used in any replacement

I agree with that statement Tony - however, how do we find out about the type of plastics used (or the keyboard membrane manufacturer at the time)??
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Re: [ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Bill Waugh


- Original Message -
From: "Dave P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] A funny thing...


>
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>
> > Graphics by Sinclair QL and SMSQ.
> >
> > Highly original, I know, but .
>
> I've at best come up with:
>
>Computers .. Sinclair Research Ltd
>Additional hardware .. Miracle Systems
>   Zeljko Nastasic
>Displays kindly furnished by.. ADI
>Operating System .. Tony Tebby
>Programming  Dave Park
>
 My but how we have progressed, original QL might have the suggested
text of
" allow twenty eight days for credits" (:-)

All the best - Bill




RE: [ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Dave P



On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote:

> "My mind is going... I can feel it..."
>
> Phoebus

So THAT'S why you've been talking all this greek rubbish lately ;)

Dave





RE: [ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Phoebus Dokos





"Hello Dave. Would you like to play a game of chess? I'm really very good."


"My mind is going... I can feel it..."

Phoebus




RE: [ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Dave P



On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> Graphics by Sinclair QL and SMSQ.
>
> Highly original, I know, but .

I've at best come up with:

   Computers .. Sinclair Research Ltd
   Additional hardware .. Miracle Systems
  Zeljko Nastasic
   Displays kindly furnished by.. ADI
   Operating System .. Tony Tebby
   Programming  Dave Park

> It won't be a proper file if you don't :o)

"Hello Dave. Would you like to play a game of chess? I'm really very good."

No!

Dave





Re: [ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

??? 18/10/2002 12:41:47 ??, ?/? Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:



>One thing we have to do in this production is complete daily "credit
>cards" that say what we did, and I want to make sure the QL and SMSQ/E
>make it into the production credits.
>
>How would you credit this?

Depends on what you are using, emulated QL or regular...

For regular you could write something like this:

Computer Equipment: Sinclair Research Ltd. UK
Computer Software: Dave P. w/ portions Tony Tebby


For emulated:
Computer Software: Dave P. w/ portions Marcel Kilgus, Tony Tebby etc...

Phoebus





RE: [ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Norman Dunbar

Dave,

how about :

Credits :

Graphics by Sinclair QL and SMSQ.

Highly original, I know, but .


Cheers,
Norman.

PS. Do you have to get the text to print up one character at a time, slowly,
in a large font, in the centre of the screen,  with a sort of 'whee' noise
as each letter.word appears on the screen, with the screen clearing
automatically between sentences, and a voice-over reading the words out as
they appear ?

It won't be a proper file if you don't :o)

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From: Dave P [mailto:dexter@;spodmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:42 PM
To: QL Users
Subject: [ql-users] A funny thing...




I am working on an independant film project with a small group of people.
I am helping build a high-fidelity set of a space station of the skylab
era. The task I have been set is to reproduce a cockpit-style area with
working lights and buttons.

I have to have two LCD panels for green-screen displays of text and
orbital elements. They suggested I use a PC and DOS, or doze, but they're
not appropriate - doing a simple thing is made too complicated. They
suggested I use linux, but the framebuffer is a pig.

So I'm doing it with SMSQ/E.

One thing we have to do in this production is complete daily "credit
cards" that say what we did, and I want to make sure the QL and SMSQ/E
make it into the production credits.

How would you credit this?

Dave

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Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-18 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Thu, 17 Oct 2002 at 18:15:52, =?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20
=D1.=20=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?= wrote:
(ref: quantumcentral>)


>ANY membrane will fail give it
>sufficient time and enough tinkering with the QLs inside but not the Qeyboard
... not the original clear plastic membrane, in the first 1000 or so
units.
That is very very durable, and I use for testing QLs.
Of course it could fail, but only, I think, if attacked.

That sort of plastic should be used in any replacement.
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[ql-users] A funny thing...

2002-10-18 Thread Dave P


I am working on an independant film project with a small group of people.
I am helping build a high-fidelity set of a space station of the skylab
era. The task I have been set is to reproduce a cockpit-style area with
working lights and buttons.

I have to have two LCD panels for green-screen displays of text and
orbital elements. They suggested I use a PC and DOS, or doze, but they're
not appropriate - doing a simple thing is made too complicated. They
suggested I use linux, but the framebuffer is a pig.

So I'm doing it with SMSQ/E.

One thing we have to do in this production is complete daily "credit
cards" that say what we did, and I want to make sure the QL and SMSQ/E
make it into the production credits.

How would you credit this?

Dave





Re: [ql-users] Movep

2002-10-18 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 08/10/02 17:37:12 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> GWASS treats 0(a4) as (a4), so the shorter version is always used here.
> 
> George

It takes some effort to force an assembler that "helps" like that, when 
you really do want it to generate the zero offset. You have to define an 
external that will supply a zero a link time. IIRC there is a bit of 
code in the debugger that I wrote that needed to do it. It wanted to 
generate a live sequence of code to push on the stack with an offset to 
be filled in.

I'm not too sure about assemblers that "help" too much. E.g. when you 
are writing I2C drivers and need to account for every cycle, it's no fun 
if the assembler quietly replaces your instructions with ones it thinks 
are "better".

A good solution is for an assembler to accept an override control saying 
"don't mess with what I write".



The effective address 0(a4) which GWASS sets to (a4) is an exception to the normal GWASS rule, which is just what you state, namely that a programmer should be master of what he writes. For example, GWASS will shorten branches where possible if they are written BRA but will leave them as requested if written BRA.W, BRA.L or BRA.S.

I made GWASS use (a4) in place of k(a4) when k was zero because it seemed obvious at the time that this should be done. It has certainly caused me to use DC.W when I really did want 0(a4) and not a4.

If a change were to be made in GWASS over this instruction, I would simply delete the change from 0(a4) to (a4).

George