Re: [ql-users] Quanta Workshop in Norwich
Geoff Wicks wrote:- Sorry I can't give any firm suggestions about dates or give a firm promise to be there at this notice. Having said that I would want to give a Norwich show a high priority because of what I have earlier said on this list about the need to break the stranglehold the South East has on shows. I would probably choose Norwich over one of the more established workshops. I would agree, I sometimes get letters from QLers in the north of England asking for a set show a year up there somewhere - I think it should be a priority to get a show up there once a year. I think Tarquin has the energy and committment to get it going, which is why I'll try hard to be there - despite the lack of funds these days with junior... :-)) Please don't be put off by what I am now going to write. The show agenda for early next year is beginning to look crowded. London and Norwich are now being planned and we can also expect Hove and a QUANTA AGM all before end April/early May. (Although given that QUANTA now no longer has respect for its own constitution, it must be seen as being an unreliable, loose cannon.) Practically I think it unlikely that I would be able to attend all these workshops and I think this will probably true of most traders, particularly those who have long distances or overnight stays to get to shows. I agree too. I unlike most of the other traders have a particularly difficult time gettting to shows, all of them involve an often expensive plane or ferry ticket and an overnight stay, a bit like Jochen. Not to mention the crazy prices in those Welcome Break services thingys you have over there - why do you put up with those prices? I remember paying over 50 quid for 4 cod n'chips once - Madness. But, however, the point is I still do it. I enjoy it, and I have many very good, trusted, and close friends in the QL community - all of the traders for starters. I'll try to get too as many shows as I can, by that is getting harder now I have a son and work committments on the increase. Which reminds me - I plan on having another Irish Piss-up (its never really a show, as we spend more time at the pub that the show venue) at the end of August. I will annouce dates soon, but can anybody attend this one? It was really a traders only event last year except for John Hall and Hilary O'Kelly (thanks guys!) but we (the traders) really enjoyed it because it gave us all the chance to chat and have a laugh again, as we so rarely do these days. Great food, usually great weather, good accommodation, and some great craic - what more do you want? We really need to start thinking about what the frequency and purpose of workshops should now be. The attendance at the last shows has been fairly low and frankly they are beginning to offer very little to the average QL user. Their main purpose now seems to be meeting old friends and updating software from the traders. There are now no talks, no demonstrations, few people bringing their own QLs, hardly anyone giving advice or asking advice. This may be OK for the in-crowd, but not much use for people on the periphery of the QL community. Well, I haven't done a demo to a crowd in years. But I still demo software to individuals or two people at the stand, at least the smaller numbers allow a more personal one on one approach to customers. Maybe we show try to have a few more talks again, even if its on older software - or maybe a QA session with all the traders and know-it-alls in attendance is a good idea? The one place that still seems to have the golden touch is North America. What can we learn from them? Well, having been at the two shows in Montreal and Washington, I would beg to differ. There is still a lot of interest in the QL there, but a lot of the QLers are finding it hard to get to shows, even the 1 per year. The USA is a big place. At both the shows I attended, there was maybe a dozen people (tops) there outside of the organisers and traders. I really missed the chance to meet Phoebus this year (we've had some great phone conversations in the past) but I couldn't afford it this year, only 6 weeks after becoming a dad. I didn't make enough to cover the cost of the accommodation let alone the plane tickets on both visits to the USA, but I went to meet people and holiday too, visiting Niagra Falls and Washington DC. Again, the guys out there are a great bunch of people and I dearly hope to make it next year with my family. What really gets to me though is that Quanta haven't taken the opportunity to do another big QL2000 style event next year - the year that the QL is 20 years old. It should have taken place on the launch day itself, 20 years to the day. I remember the QL2000 event with great pride, it was a huge success (and I made a profit!!), and that was because it was hyped up for months beforehand. I would love to see a huge event next year (maybe the AGM?) where we get the horizon centre or a similar venue again for a 2 day event and cram
Re: [ql-users] Compact Flash Adapters for the QL
Darren Branagh wrote: I've sold a few of these already - but still have about 5 left. Any takers...?? How big are the hot-swapable ones? -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/
Re: [ql-users] Compact Flash Adapters for the QL
Quite small - the face (front) is exactly the same same as a 3.5 floppy drive bay, so they will fit in one of these. However, they are not as deep or heavy, being only about a third as deep as a floppy drive - they go about 80mm (guess) back into the case. Actually a lot of people use these stand alone, outside a QL and QubIDE. If you need actual dimensions, I can measure one for you tonight and email you tomorrow. Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] world.com cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [ql-users] Compact Flash Adapters for the QL [EMAIL PROTECTED] g.uk 02/07/2003 10:59 Please respond to ql-users Darren Branagh wrote: I've sold a few of these already - but still have about 5 left. Any takers...?? How big are the hot-swapable ones? -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.
Re: [ql-users] Quanta Workshop in Norwich
Well, can't have been that bad then if someone is up for it again :-)) I'll send and post the details in Quanta and this list when I confirm hotel availability etc.. The HSS is a nice way to travel john, only 99 Minutes from Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire, and its cheap as a foot passenger. Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] t cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta Workshop in Norwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] g.uk 02/07/2003 11:38 Please respond to ql-users Which reminds me - I plan on having another Irish Piss-up (its never really a show, as we spend more time at the pub that the show venue) at the end of August. I will annouce dates soon, but can anybody attend this one? It was really a traders only event last year except for John Hall and Hilary O'Kelly (thanks guys!) but we (the traders) really enjoyed it because it gave us all the chance to chat and have a laugh again, as we so rarely do these days. Great food, usually great weather, good accommodation, and some great craic - what more do you want? Count me in! (I think this time I'll try one of the Holyhead crossings rather than Fishguard to Rosslare.) Re. dates, I can manage any weekend in August but would prefer it if we avoided the bank holiday weekend (23rd - 25th). John -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.
Re: [ql-users] Quanta Workshop in Norwich
- Original Message - From: Bill Cable [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta Workshop in Norwich I am afraid the North American group is suffering from the same problems as the UK groups. We are lucky that Jochen and Marcel and Roy and in past years Tony and Darren like to come over even without the chance of many sales and others take it as an opportunity to come over for a holiday at the same time. Having Phoebus over here going to school is also a big plus because he has so much energy for the QL. We have one person, Al Boehm, who does his best to motivate and organize and delegate but being such a large country we are spread very thin and some of the most active QLers can not come to the shows. Thanks for the reply and to all the others who replied. Sorry to hear that attendance is also a problem in North America, but the point I was trying to make was that from the reports in QL Today it appears that North America still has shows old style with talks, demonstrations and a good social occasion. You can be sure that people would not come from Europe each year if they did not enjoy the shows. Mind you, Al can be a pretty persuasive person. We seem to have a specific problem in the UK that next year lots of people seem interested in organising shows, and that's welcome, but it is too many for those of us who have to travel long distances. Another question is what we do at shows now that numbers are smaller. I don't know the answer to this, which is one of the reasons I started the discussion. Maybe we have to think of putting more emphasis on social events and less on the QL for at least some of the shows (e.g. QUANTA AGM). A QL2000 type event, on a slightly less lavish scale, should be possible once a year, but then we have to think how we give form to more local workshops. Malcolm Cadman made a good point a few weeks ago when he said that organising a shows helps to build up enthusiasm in a local group. Geoff Wicks.
Re: [ql-users] Quanta Workshop in Norwich
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Maybe we have to think of putting more emphasis on social events and less on the QL for at least some of the shows Time for a plug for Darren's Irish QL social event at the end of August. Just a weekend of chat, food and the odd alcoholic libation. Over to you Darren. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
