RE: sH and PS/2 (was: [ql-users] One box or two)

[Norman Dunbar]

Tony,

we took about a week to get everything over when we went from Planet to
UUnet at work. Nightmare !!!

Cheers,
Norman.

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From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Re: sH and PS/2 (was: [ql-users] One box or two)



I wonder how it is done on a high use site - I expect money speaks and
it is done instantaneously.  It should be that way for everyone.

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Re: sH and PS/2 (was: [ql-users] One box or two)

[Tony Firshman]

On  Thu, 21 Nov 2002 at 19:55:46, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
(ref: )

>
>??? 21/11/2002 6:58:25 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:
>
>>Well the action of the I/O lines has to be controlled by the QL driver -
>>the pIC has no intelligence re this port - it just works to outside
>>instructions.  It should though be trivial if the clock is async.
>>The hard part might be the driver - which will need to access TTs mouse
>>registers.  Beyond me certainly.
>
>Well a quick hack could take care of that, ie stuff the results into
>the IPCMOUSE
>driver's location ;-) (Who wrote that btw?)
Laurence Reeves (who else (8-)#  )

>However I just thought of something. It IS possible, ceteris paribus to
>modify the
>sermouse driver to do the work I would think as all the low level
>routines are there
>and the rest I would guess should be trivial.
That would be a better course.

>Also congrats on your ADSL line... (almost) seamless transition from
>demon to your
>machine... liked it :-)
Well all I did was copy the files (8-)#
I must get down to rewriting my form in Perl so the data does not arrive
%nn modified.

The only silly was oneandone playing silly devils and not allowing a one
to one chat and reallocation.  Once I discovered their auto system had
reassigned, it took about 36 hours to get rest done.  nominet were the
main bottleneck.

I wonder how it is done on a high use site - I expect money speaks and
it is done instantaneously.  It should be that way for everyone.

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Re: sH and PS/2 (was: [ql-users] One box or two)

[Phoebus Dokos]

??? 21/11/2002 6:58:25 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:

>Well the action of the I/O lines has to be controlled by the QL driver -
>the pIC has no intelligence re this port - it just works to outside
>instructions.  It should though be trivial if the clock is async.
>The hard part might be the driver - which will need to access TTs mouse
>registers.  Beyond me certainly.

Well a quick hack could take care of that, ie stuff the results into the IPCMOUSE 
driver's location ;-) (Who wrote that btw?)

I *REALLY* need to look into the PS/2 mouse specs again... IIRC when I managed 
to read the PS/2 mouse via the sH I used the following:

A. Disco'd the keyboard and used the clock from there (same clock signal to a "t"),
Read the Spare I/O and communicated with the mouse just fine... The driver is 
beyond me at this point too as most people don't have a clue on what it does and 
how it does... hopefully after i examine the SMSQ/E sources I will be in a better 
position to tell you. 

However I just thought of something. It IS possible, ceteris paribus to modify the 
sermouse driver to do the work I would think as all the low level routines are there 
and the rest I would guess should be trivial.

More on sync/async PS/2 comms tomorrow... 

Also congrats on your ADSL line... (almost) seamless transition from demon to your 
machine... liked it :-)



It would certainly be nice to have a mouse with sH LITE, and I will fit
the connector to all future production.

You're telling me? I would kill for one of those when I only had the Aurora (Now I am 
up the neck in QLs ;-)

Phoebus

Re: sH and PS/2 (was: [ql-users] One box or two)

[Tony Firshman]

On  Thu, 21 Nov 2002 at 13:31:47, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
(ref: )

>
>??? 21/11/2002 11:52:37 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:
>
>
>>It should be - but it would be easy to fit an external oscillator as
>>there is a spare line.  I must look up the specs.
>>Mind you the I/O line is TTL so surely that is OK if the clock can be
>>software derived.  Can it work asynchronously?
>
>
>In principle it's only asynchronous... as it has to wait for the clock
>to send data... and the
>computer side doesn't receive when it sends clock signals AFAIK... but
>then again I have
>to look...
>I looked up the software clock possibility but I cannot recall why I
>abandoned it... on
>second thoughts the PIC packs a lot more power than what the QL asks it
>to do... so
>why not? It should work, shouldn't it?
Well the action of the I/O lines has to be controlled by the QL driver -
the pIC has no intelligence re this port - it just works to outside
instructions.  It should though be trivial if the clock is async.
The hard part might be the driver - which will need to access TTs mouse
registers.  Beyond me certainly.

It would certainly be nice to have a mouse with sH LITE, and I will fit
the connector to all future production.
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