Re: virtualdomains vs. VERP and Delivered-To
Charles M. Hannum writes: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... This seems very wrong. The Delivered-To: address here isn't even correct; it should be something the actually exists -- either `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Don't think of Delivered-To: as an address. Think of it as a unique magic cookie derived from email delivery path. You can always reconstruct the address if you know something about the delivery path, and sometimes you may indeed have to. I don't need to be taught the religion, thanks. I'm already well aware of it. And I don't buy it in this case. What if `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' *was* a valid, different address? It could falsely detect loops. Maybe that wouldn't make sense in this particular case, but I'm sure you can construct a more palatable case with little effort. Also, that doesn't resolve my VERP problem.
Re: virtualdomains vs. VERP and Delivered-To
Also, that doesn't resolve my VERP problem. Sorry, I thought it did. Why doesn't it? Uhhh, did you *read* my first piece of email? If I get a VERP address of `[EMAIL PROTECTED]', how pray tell is my mailing list software supposed to know that the mail was actually sent to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'? It doesn't have a prayer -- unless it knows about qmail's virtualdomains, which would be a major abstraction violation. VERP and virtualdomains just don't work properly together in a stock qmail.
virtualdomains vs. VERP and Delivered-To
I have a mail host -- call it netbsd.org -- that's been running qmail 1.03 for rather a long time. It uses VERP heavily to do automatic bounce handling for mailing lists. It also uses virtualdomains to serve a couple of personal vanity domains. In virtualdomains, I have: spamalicious.com:mycroft-spamalicious .spamalicious.com:mycroft-spamalicious When mail is sent to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -- e.g. from majordomo (please spare me the majordomo vs. ezmlm flames) -- I see: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 02 20:13:30 2001 ... Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... This seems very wrong. The Delivered-To: address here isn't even correct; it should be something the actually exists -- either `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. For VERP to be useful, the VERP address needs to be the latter; otherwise my mailing list manager won't be able to handle the bounces correctly, since it will have the wrong address. Has anyone fixed this problem already?