Re: Sublist (Was: Virus-infected listmembers)

[Dave 'Duke of URL' Weiner]

 On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:54:53PM -0400, Steve Reed wrote:
  I think it would be very considerate of the list members if
  whoever runs this mailing list would PLEASE wake up and ban the
  living daylights out of Wilson and his barrage of viruses.

 What for? Wilson isn't the problem. The problem is that we're not in
 92 anymore. What I'd like to see is a sublist that drops anything that
 isn't ASCII only and also everything that is sent with Windos MUAs.
 For the fun of it, I just killed everything that said Outlook
 (Express), Eudora, Pegasus and Webmail for the last month. Trust me,
 the list suddenly became good.

So Robin, despite the fact that I just finished building a qmail cluster
using 3 Sun 220R's load balanced behind a pair of F5 Networks Big/IP's,
qmail 1.03, vpopmail, courier-imap, sqwebmail, mysql and apache handling
1,000,000 users across 5,400 domains, I should be banned from your sublist
because I choose to use Outlook Express???

Yes, lots of clueless people use Windows and Windows MUA's.  But some of use
also use Windows and Windows MUA's, and *DO* have a clue.  Be carefull about
making sweeping statements.  And before you blast me for using Windows
instead of, say Linux, there are a number of applications that I need to use
on a daily basis to run my business effectively and effeciently, that still
don't have the features I need on Linux.  And yes, I've tried Star Office -
and I'm still having problems installing it on a Mandrake 7.2 box.  I just
upgraded to Mandrake 8, but I haven't tried it there yet.  Trust me - the
day I can get all the features I feel I need without using any MS apps, I'm
there.  But I'm not going to dump MS just to spite MS without having what
*I* consider suitable replacements - not you, or the rest of the rabid
Anti-MS bridgade.


Dave Weiner
CTO, WebMasters, Inc.
800-472-9203
http://www.webmast.com

Re: Sublist (Was: Virus-infected listmembers)

[Dave 'Duke of URL' Weiner]

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 10:31:15AM -0400, Dave 'Duke of URL' Weiner wrote:
  Yes, lots of clueless people use Windows and Windows MUA's.  But some of
use
  also use Windows and Windows MUA's, and *DO* have a clue.

 No, anyone still using Microsoft products after they have seen the light
of
 *nix just hasn't gotten it yet.  I was like you for about a year,
defending
 my outlook-express, because I liked it.  Then I started using mutt and
found
 out what a *real* MUA can do.

I've used Mutt, Elm, Pico, Pine, KMail and a bunch more.  And I still like
Outlook Express.


 In short, anyone who claims they are a UNIX person and still uses MS
 software for their MUA is just a poseur, that's all.  I bet you use pico
too.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.  And so am I, and you're being an
asshole :)


 Don't get me wrong, there are valid uses for 'doze, but reading your mail
 isn't one of them.

 --Adam

Dave

Re: Inter7 mirror

[Dave 'Duke of URL' Weiner]

 I have put the some of the items in question on my server :

 http://212.179.48.82/inter7

 if anyone has updates or missing items (like vqadmin) and can help me out,
 please send them to me.

 This is my first and last post on this matter.

If anybody knows how to get in touch with Ken Jones or any of the other guys
over at Inter7, I'd be happy to mirror all the pages as well as the tarballs
for qmailadmin, sqwebmail, vpopmail, etc. on my server.  If you are able to
get in contact with them, e-mail me off-list for a phone number where they
can get in touch with me.


 Thank you

Dave Weiner