Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try Pegasus mail, http://www.pmail.com. I think it uses a Maildir-like (but not maildir) structure for mailboxes, Not exactly - it uses maildir-like structure for "new mail" and mailboxes for the mail folders and creates index files to go with it. For the mailfolders (mailboxes), not for new-mail maildir. It also has many nice features, and is free. Have been using it since old Novell3.1/MSDOS4.2 days and hell, it's the only reason I am running W95 at home instead of linux! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBN7fTlVMwP8g7qbw/EQIc3ACcDxNzCethxEw1FOHfGSDVHBa8+2oAoNxf 3kx7IBKOwbXJQduyTrNTsnzw =Nm9a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
Apart from the server serving 100K users, i am wondering whether there is any good e-mail client, which can support many thousands of mail messages. I am using eudora as well the BAT. I am subscribed to various mailing list and these clients become very slow as the number of mail messages increases. Any idea? Cheers, Jason MAN I was just wondering if anyone is running a qmail server with 20,000 users? MAN And if so, how does it handle and what hardware are you running?
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
I'm at 140k users.. right now, SQL database dumped to a CDB each 10 minutes... Going to LDAP sometime... On 10-Aug-99 Rick McMillin wrote: So how do the ISP's with those large customer bases deal with authentication? What methods do they use? Passwd? LDAP? MySQL? Rick - Original Message - From: Stanley Horwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc-Adrian Napoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:51 AM Subject: Re: 20,000 mailboxes... On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering if anyone is running a qmail server with 20,000 users? And if so, how does it handle and what hardware are you running? Any help is most appreciated! If I am not mistaken, AOL and Hotmail both run qmail and as you probably know, there's something like 4,000,000 AOL users. You might find more info of this nature on the Qmail Web site. --- Pedro Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] IP - Engenharia de Rede http://ip.pt/ Av. Duque de Avila, 23, 1049-071 LISBOA - PORTUGAL tel: +351 1 3166740/00 (24h/dia) - fax: +351 1 3166701
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On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 11:47:39PM -0400, Robbie Walker wrote: Yeah, hotmail.com is running 20,000 [grin] it seems to work pretty darn well, considering. gmx.de runs qmail as well, which is one of the german (IMHO better) answers to hotmail.com. Once upon a time someone in this list told (or is it on djb's site?), Redhat would do it's lists with qmail as well. Regards Mirko
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote: I was just wondering if anyone is running a qmail server with 20,000 users? And if so, how does it handle and what hardware are you running? One of the biggest swedish ISP:s (algonet) are using qmail for their 5+ users. Solaris, Sun and NetWork Appliances hardware. /magnus -- "MOST USELESS site of the year 1998" -- http://x42.com/urlcalc/
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering if anyone is running a qmail server with 20,000 users? And if so, how does it handle and what hardware are you running? Any help is most appreciated! If I am not mistaken, AOL and Hotmail both run qmail and as you probably know, there's something like 4,000,000 AOL users. You might find more info of this nature on the Qmail Web site.
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
So how do the ISP's with those large customer bases deal with authentication? What methods do they use? Passwd? LDAP? MySQL? Rick - Original Message - From: Stanley Horwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc-Adrian Napoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:51 AM Subject: Re: 20,000 mailboxes... On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering if anyone is running a qmail server with 20,000 users? And if so, how does it handle and what hardware are you running? Any help is most appreciated! If I am not mistaken, AOL and Hotmail both run qmail and as you probably know, there's something like 4,000,000 AOL users. You might find more info of this nature on the Qmail Web site.
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Rick McMillin wrote: So how do the ISP's with those large customer bases deal with authentication? What methods do they use? Passwd? LDAP? MySQL? At this point (large customer based, complex professional installation) I would definitely consider consulting a professional (non-free) consultant. /magnus -- "MOST USELESS site of the year 1998" -- http://x42.com/urlcalc/
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On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote: One of the biggest swedish ISP:s (algonet) are using qmail for their 5+ users. Solaris, Sun and NetWork Appliances hardware. Internet Zahav here in Israel is THE biggest ISP in the country currently... 150k users. we use Qmail for all outgoing mail since about a week ago (I pushed it, got no help from the bosses), having to prove it's good, I redirected all the users to relay through a Pentium II-350 with an IDE drive instead of the sendmail over an Enterprise Solaris box, and things turned out to work faster. now that the bigwigs saw the success, I'll move in to change the rest of the servers to Qmail too (main incoming, virtual domains, pop etc) High time I switch to a DB instead of a multi-megabyte passwd file. any ideas, ready-made delivery tools? same DB should also authenticate for Radius and pop. non-qmail specific replies will be happily accepted offlist too. TIA, Ira
RE: 20,000 mailboxes...
check out the ldap patch then... -- From: Ira Abramov[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 4:47 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 20,000 mailboxes... On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote: One of the biggest swedish ISP:s (algonet) are using qmail for their 5+ users. Solaris, Sun and NetWork Appliances hardware. Internet Zahav here in Israel is THE biggest ISP in the country currently... 150k users. we use Qmail for all outgoing mail since about a week ago (I pushed it, got no help from the bosses), having to prove it's good, I redirected all the users to relay through a Pentium II-350 with an IDE drive instead of the sendmail over an Enterprise Solaris box, and things turned out to work faster. now that the bigwigs saw the success, I'll move in to change the rest of the servers to Qmail too (main incoming, virtual domains, pop etc) High time I switch to a DB instead of a multi-megabyte passwd file. any ideas, ready-made delivery tools? same DB should also authenticate for Radius and pop. non-qmail specific replies will be happily accepted offlist too. TIA, Ira
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
Ira Abramov wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote: One of the biggest swedish ISP:s (algonet) are using qmail for their 5+ users. Solaris, Sun and NetWork Appliances hardware. Internet Zahav here in Israel is THE biggest ISP in the country currently... 150k users. we use Qmail for all outgoing mail since about a week ago (I pushed it, got no help from the bosses), having to prove it's good, I redirected all the users to relay through a Pentium II-350 with an IDE drive instead of the sendmail over an Enterprise Solaris box, and things turned out to work faster. now that the bigwigs saw the success, I'll move in to change the rest of the servers to Qmail too (main incoming, virtual domains, pop etc) High time I switch to a DB instead of a multi-megabyte passwd file. any ideas, ready-made delivery tools? same DB should also authenticate for Radius and pop. non-qmail specific replies will be happily accepted offlist too. Check out qmail-ldap at http://www.nrg4u.com. The documentation at the moment is not as good as it could be, but when you know how stock qmail works it ain't hard. If you ask a good question on the qmail-ldap list you'll get a good answer soon. -- Andre
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Magnus Bodin writes: On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Rick McMillin wrote: So how do the ISP's with those large customer bases deal with authentication? What methods do they use? Passwd? LDAP? MySQL? At this point (large customer based, complex professional installation) I would definitely consider consulting a professional (non-free) consultant. Yes, speaking as a professional (non-free) consultant, I would highly encourage everyone to seek professional counseling. :) There's that mortgage, y'see, plus the goat barn we're building. And there's the electric fence around the orchard if we want to stop feeding the deer. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
Ira Abramov writes: High time I switch to a DB instead of a multi-megabyte passwd file. any ideas, ready-made delivery tools? same DB should also authenticate for Radius and pop. non-qmail specific replies will be happily accepted offlist too. On a reasonably fast machine (450Mhz, Fast UW-SCSI), you can rebuild a hundred-megabyte CDB in under 90 seconds. There is already a checkpassword that looks into a CDB. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: 20,000 mailboxes...
Yeah, hotmail.com is running 20,000 [grin] it seems to work pretty darn well, considering. At 10:23 PM 8/9/99 , you wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering if anyone is running a qmail server with 20,000 users? And if so, how does it handle and what hardware are you running? Any help is most appreciated! Regards, Marc-Adrian Napoli Connect Infobahn Australia +61 2 92811750 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NovaMetrix Development Robbie Walker, AMWL P.O. Box 635 or910-653-4006 106-B S. Main St 800-773-5647 Tabor City, NC 28463 910-653-2052 FAX
