Re: 501 Syntax Error
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 04:13:44PM -0500, Ben Beuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone familiar with any weirdness betwixt qmail and webboard mail > servers? My experience with webboard mail servers is that they are broken. They don't accept <> as a valid envelope sender address. As far as I could tell this wasn't a configurable option.
Re: 501 Syntax Error
Quoting Ben Beuchler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 02:23:22PM -0700, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> > They are rejecting the NULL ("<>") sender address. Tell 'em to go
> > read RFC 821 and 1123!
>
> Ah HA! And I'm assuming qmail only uses NULL senders on bounces? As RFC
> 821 suggests, of course...
Naturally... :) If they balk, clue them in to the fact that they
aren't getting bounces from any network that has external mail
gateways that forward _all_ email to internal hosts, ala AOL. A lot
of dimwitted admins seem to think our mail server is broken, since
they get bounces from "everyone else." :)
RFC1123:
5.3.3 Reliable Mail Receipt
When the receiver-SMTP accepts a piece of mail (by sending a
"250 OK" message in response to DATA), it is accepting
responsibility for delivering or relaying the message. It must
take this responsibility seriously, i.e., it MUST NOT lose the
message for frivolous reasons, e.g., because the host later
crashes or because of a predictable resource shortage.
If there is a delivery failure after acceptance of a message,
the receiver-SMTP MUST formulate and mail a notification
message. This notification MUST be sent using a null ("<>")
reverse path in the envelope; see Section 3.6 of RFC-821. The
recipient of this notification SHOULD be the address from the
envelope return path (or the Return-Path: line). However, if
this address is null ("<>"), the receiver-SMTP MUST NOT send a
notification. If the address is an explicit source route, it
SHOULD be stripped down to its final hop.
Re: 501 Syntax Error
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 02:23:22PM -0700, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> Quoting Ben Beuchler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Connected to 209.46.71.115 but sender was rejected.
> > Remote host said: 501 Syntax Error
>
> They are rejecting the NULL ("<>") sender address. Tell 'em to go
> read RFC 821 and 1123!
Ah HA! And I'm assuming qmail only uses NULL senders on bounces? As RFC
821 suggests, of course...
Ben
--
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Re: 501 Syntax Error
Quoting Ben Beuchler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Connected to 209.46.71.115 but sender was rejected.
> Remote host said: 501 Syntax Error
They are rejecting the NULL ("<>") sender address. Tell 'em to go
read RFC 821 and 1123!
> However, when I manually try it, it works:
> mail from:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 250 OK
Ahh, but you didn't try it as <> :)
Aaron
501 Syntax Error
Anyone familiar with any weirdness betwixt qmail and webboard mail servers? I received an error when qmail tried to bounce a message back to a webboard server. Here's the cut-n-paste: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at amazhan.bitstream.net. I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Connected to 209.46.71.115 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 501 Syntax Error However, when I manually try it, it works: petra:~$ telnet 209.46.71.115 25 Trying 209.46.71.115... Connected to 209.46.71.115. Escape character is '^]'. 220 209.46.71.115 WebBoard SMTP Receiver Version 3.50.7 Ready helo amazhan.bitstream.net 250 WEBBOARD-SMTP mail from:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 250 OK rcpt to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 250 Recipient OK data 354 Send mail; end with a line containing only a period Testing your SMTP server... . 250 Message ID: 91766606. Mail Being Delivered. quit 221 WEBBOARD-SMTP says goodbye to amazhan.bitstream.net [206.144.236.193] at Fri 09 Jun 2000 15:57:05 Connection closed by foreign host. Anyone else seen anything similar? Thanks, Ben -- The spectre of a polity controlled by the fads and whims of voters who actually believe that there are significant differences between Bud Lite and Miller Lite, and who think that professional wrestling is for real, is naturally alarming to people who don't. -- Neal Stephenson
