Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
"Michail A.Baikov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Better use link to /var/spool/mail and ONE software >(?standalone). ;-) Better than what? Why? >But might be qmail-pop3d make it mbox support in future? No, that won't happen. Maildir is superior and there are lots of mbox-compatible POP servers out there (e.g., qpopper, solid). -Dave
Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
Better use link to /var/spool/mail and ONE software (?standalone). ;-) But might be qmail-pop3d make it mbox support in future? - Original Message - From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail? > Michail A.Baikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If you need mail delivered to /var/spool/mail/$USER, then you don't > > > want or need Maildirs. > > > > But qmail not work in only maildirs mode. pop3 daemon know about ONLY > > Maildirs! :-( > [...] > > in $HOME : > > > > echo -n >.qmail > > echo ./Maildir/ > .qmail > > ln -s /var/spool/mail/bob Maildir > > > > and all work, but this curved :-/ > > > > I am want use Mailbox in $HOME. And kill Maildir with /var/spool/mail/* > > qmail-pop3d not work with Mailbox :-( > > You're really confused here. A Maildir is not just an mbox named "Maildir". > They're fundamentally different. Programs which expect mail to be stored > in mbox format in /var/spool/mail/$USER will not understand a Maildir there, > which is what you're trying to accomplish above. > > Yes, qmail-pop3d does not understand anything but Maildirs. So use > qpopper instead; it can use /var/spool/mail/$USER mboxes. > > Charles > -- > --- > Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. > ---
Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
Michail A.Baikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you need mail delivered to /var/spool/mail/$USER, then you don't > > want or need Maildirs. > > But qmail not work in only maildirs mode. pop3 daemon know about ONLY > Maildirs! :-( [...] > in $HOME : > > echo -n >.qmail > echo ./Maildir/ > .qmail > ln -s /var/spool/mail/bob Maildir > > and all work, but this curved :-/ > > I am want use Mailbox in $HOME. And kill Maildir with /var/spool/mail/* > qmail-pop3d not work with Mailbox :-( You're really confused here. A Maildir is not just an mbox named "Maildir". They're fundamentally different. Programs which expect mail to be stored in mbox format in /var/spool/mail/$USER will not understand a Maildir there, which is what you're trying to accomplish above. Yes, qmail-pop3d does not understand anything but Maildirs. So use qpopper instead; it can use /var/spool/mail/$USER mboxes. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
"Michail A.Baikov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >But qmail not work in only maildirs mode. pop3 daemon know about ONLY >Maildirs! :-( qmail-pop3d only works with maildirs. >I'm don't want use other software (like sendmail,procmail,qpopper and etc), >but want be use mailbox-like style. Sorry, that's not possible. You'll either need to use maildirs or switch to a POP daemon like Solid[1]. >Too many capacibility parts of disk's. We must use only /var/spool/mail for >storage messages. You'll need to use /bin/mail, procmail, or some other local delivery agent. qmail-local only delivers to $HOME. >I'm make next (ex. for user BOB): > >mkdir /var/spool/mail/bob >mkdir /var/spool/mail/bob/cur >.../new >.../tmp >chown bob.users /var/spool/mail/bob >chown bob.users * -R (in bob directory) >chmod 0700 /var/spool/mail/bob >etc.. > >in $HOME : > >echo -n >.qmail >echo ./Maildir/ > .qmail >ln -s /var/spool/mail/bob Maildir > >and all work, but this curved :-/ Yeah. :-) >I am want use Mailbox in $HOME. And kill Maildir with /var/spool/mail/* Wait a minute...I thought you said you had to use /var/spool/mail, not $HOME. Which is it? >qmail-pop3d not work with Mailbox :-( Correct. >> > 1. All messages saving in Maildir/new/ >> > How automate move all message from Maildir/ to ./Mailbox ? >> >> Write a script to loop through the messages and append them to the >> /var/spool/mail/$USER mailbox after prefising them with "From " >> lines. > >Sorry, not understand, source? Example of script please ;-) Something like: for i in `find Maildir -type f -print`; do echo >>/var/spool/mail/$USER echo "root@localhost Wed Sep 27 13:39:32 2000" >>/var/spool/mail/$USER sed 's/^From/>From/' $i >>/var/spool/mail/$USER done Which is completely untested and likely to Kill Your Dog (tm)[2]. >Resume: qmail-pop3d work with ./Mailbox or no? No. So why do you want to use mbox? Maildir is superior. -Dave Footnotes: [1] http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#solid [2] http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#lwq-warranty
Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
Hello > "Michail A.Baikov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. I am have "old sendmail" system, and all mail found in > > /var/spool/mail/$USER (all in sendmail-like mode (mbox)) > > > > 2. I am set qmail and create Maildir directory's. > > If you need mail delivered to /var/spool/mail/$USER, then you don't > want or need Maildirs. But qmail not work in only maildirs mode. pop3 daemon know about ONLY Maildirs! :-( > > > 3. But system must save all message's for every $USER in > > /var/spool/mail/$USER > > See INSTALL.vsm. I'm don't want use other software (like sendmail,procmail,qpopper and etc), but want be use mailbox-like style. > > > 4. I am create ln -s /var/spool/mail/$USER Mailbox and every $HOME. > > Why? What's looking for $HOME/Mailbox? Too many capacibility parts of disk's. We must use only /var/spool/mail for storage messages. I'm make next (ex. for user BOB): mkdir /var/spool/mail/bob mkdir /var/spool/mail/bob/cur .../new .../tmp chown bob.users /var/spool/mail/bob chown bob.users * -R (in bob directory) chmod 0700 /var/spool/mail/bob etc.. in $HOME : echo -n >.qmail echo ./Maildir/ > .qmail ln -s /var/spool/mail/bob Maildir and all work, but this curved :-/ I am want use Mailbox in $HOME. And kill Maildir with /var/spool/mail/* qmail-pop3d not work with Mailbox :-( > > > 1. All messages saving in Maildir/new/ > > How automate move all message from Maildir/ to ./Mailbox ? > > Write a script to loop through the messages and append them to the > /var/spool/mail/$USER mailbox after prefising them with "From " > lines. Sorry, not understand, source? Example of script please ;-) > > > 2. All messages saved in ./Mailbox not visible in pop3 connection. :( > > Wait... ./Mailbox or ./Maildir? Which POP3 daemon are you using? If > you're using one that looks in /var/spool/mail/$USER, then it won't > look in the user's home directory (unless you create a link) and the > mailbox will have to be in mbox format, not maildir format. ./Mailbox! ;-) I am want and using qmail-pop3d. Resume: qmail-pop3d work with ./Mailbox or no? Michail.
Re: Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
"Michail A.Baikov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. I am have "old sendmail" system, and all mail found in > /var/spool/mail/$USER (all in sendmail-like mode (mbox)) > > 2. I am set qmail and create Maildir directory's. If you need mail delivered to /var/spool/mail/$USER, then you don't want or need Maildirs. > 3. But system must save all message's for every $USER in > /var/spool/mail/$USER See INSTALL.vsm. > 4. I am create ln -s /var/spool/mail/$USER Mailbox and every $HOME. Why? What's looking for $HOME/Mailbox? > 1. All messages saving in Maildir/new/ > How automate move all message from Maildir/ to ./Mailbox ? Write a script to loop through the messages and append them to the /var/spool/mail/$USER mailbox after prefising them with "From " lines. > 2. All messages saved in ./Mailbox not visible in pop3 connection. :( Wait... ./Mailbox or ./Maildir? Which POP3 daemon are you using? If you're using one that looks in /var/spool/mail/$USER, then it won't look in the user's home directory (unless you create a link) and the mailbox will have to be in mbox format, not maildir format. -Dave
Fw: How set ONLY Mailbox work mode in qmail?
> Help me please!!! > > 1. I am have "old sendmail" system, and all mail found in > /var/spool/mail/$USER (all in sendmail-like mode (mbox)) > > 2. I am set qmail and create Maildir directory's. > > 3. But system must save all message's for every $USER in > /var/spool/mail/$USER > > 4. I am create ln -s /var/spool/mail/$USER Mailbox and every $HOME. > > Problem: > > 1. All messages saving in Maildir/new/ > How automate move all message from Maildir/ to ./Mailbox ? > > 2. All messages saved in ./Mailbox not visible in pop3 connection. :( > > Sorry for bad english :( > > Help me, please! >
