Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-11 Thread Kris Kelley

 If you want to have fun with Outlook Express users, put this in your
signature:

 "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doe"@example.com

 I don't know if that's a legal address, but its mere presence in an e-mail
 message will cause Outlook Express to freeze and eventually consume all of
your
 memory...

"Thanks for the warning," says the person who read this message with Outlook
Express.  Incidentally, nothing happened, aside from the address being
incorrectly parsed by OE's mailto linker.  I use version 5.

By the way, playing strictly by RFC 821's rules, that is a valid email
address.

---Kris kelley




Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-11 Thread Chris Johnson

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:27:08AM -0600, Kris Kelley wrote:
  If you want to have fun with Outlook Express users, put this in your
  signature:
 
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doe"@example.com
 
  I don't know if that's a legal address, but its mere presence in an e-mail
  message will cause Outlook Express to freeze and eventually consume all of
  your memory...
 
 "Thanks for the warning," says the person who read this message with Outlook
 Express.  Incidentally, nothing happened, aside from the address being
 incorrectly parsed by OE's mailto linker.  I use version 5.

It was version 5.5 that that address killed. Perhaps it's a new feature that
Microsoft decided to introduce.

Chris



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-10 Thread Chris Johnson

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:16:47PM +, Mark Delany wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:09:17AM -0800, Jon Rust wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:47:32AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
   
   And did the address you were sending to have any characters needing
   quoting in it?
   
   You going into mutt and use the 'm' command to mail a message.
   Use the following for the To address:
   "jpr"@vcnet.com
   
   You should get a bounce on a qmail system. If you were using sendmail
   you wouldn't.
  
  No offense intended, but I'm not sure I care really. I just don't see
  why you'd present the address as "something"@domain.com. Is there a
 
 What if the "something" has spaces in it? "John Doe"@example.com is a
 legit address.

iIf you want to have fun with Outlook Express users, put this in your signature:

"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doe"@example.com

I don't know if that's a legal address, but its mere presence in an e-mail
message will cause Outlook Express to freeze and eventually consume all of your
memory. Merely pasting the above text into a blank e-mail message in Outlook
Express will have the same effect.

Chris



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 06:20:32PM -0500,
  Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Hans-Juergen Schwarz wrote:
 
  Hello all,
  when a form processing-cgi requieres a /path/to/mailprog I usually
  put the line /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject in it. But is some cases it
  doesn´t work especially when the default path is /usr/bin/sendmail
  -t. It seems not to work with qmail. Is there a default way to get
  these work? I´m not really into perl and stuff.
 
 Use qmail's sendmail wrapper
 
 /var/qmail/bin/sendmail -t
 
 It behaves just like
 
 /usr/bin/sendmail -t

No it does not. sendmail expects encoded email addresses in the argument
list, while the qmail wrapper expects raw addresses. This cause problems
with addresses that have characters in them that require quoting. For
example, mutt doesn't work right with qmail.



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread Jon Rust

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:10:59AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 
 No it does not. sendmail expects encoded email addresses in the argument
 list, while the qmail wrapper expects raw addresses. This cause problems
 with addresses that have characters in them that require quoting. For
 example, mutt doesn't work right with qmail.

I'd have to disagree.

(sending from Mutt on a sendmail-free qmail box)

jon



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:20:07AM -0800,
  Jon Rust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:10:59AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  
  No it does not. sendmail expects encoded email addresses in the argument
  list, while the qmail wrapper expects raw addresses. This cause problems
  with addresses that have characters in them that require quoting. For
  example, mutt doesn't work right with qmail.
 
 I'd have to disagree.
 
 (sending from Mutt on a sendmail-free qmail box)
 
 jon

And did the address you were sending to have any characters needing
quoting in it?

You going into mutt and use the 'm' command to mail a message.
Use the following for the To address:
"jpr"@vcnet.com

You should get a bounce on a qmail system. If you were using sendmail
you wouldn't.



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread Jon Rust

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:47:32AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 
 And did the address you were sending to have any characters needing
 quoting in it?
 
 You going into mutt and use the 'm' command to mail a message.
 Use the following for the To address:
 "jpr"@vcnet.com
 
 You should get a bounce on a qmail system. If you were using sendmail
 you wouldn't.

No offense intended, but I'm not sure I care really. I just don't see
why you'd present the address as "something"@domain.com. Is there a
reason for doing that? Seems to me this is just sendmail catching a
mistake, where qmail doesn't; and as long as you don't make the mistke,
you'll be fine.  I'd appreciate you telling me where I missed something
if that's not the case. Always up for learning something new. :-)

Thanks,
jon



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread Mark Delany

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:09:17AM -0800, Jon Rust wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:47:32AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  
  And did the address you were sending to have any characters needing
  quoting in it?
  
  You going into mutt and use the 'm' command to mail a message.
  Use the following for the To address:
  "jpr"@vcnet.com
  
  You should get a bounce on a qmail system. If you were using sendmail
  you wouldn't.
 
 No offense intended, but I'm not sure I care really. I just don't see
 why you'd present the address as "something"@domain.com. Is there a

What if the "something" has spaces in it? "John Doe"@example.com is a
legit address.


Regards.



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread Jon Rust

On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:16:47PM +, Mark Delany wrote:
 
 What if the "something" has spaces in it? "John Doe"@example.com is a
 legit address.

I see your point. Mea culpa. (I dunno about the rest of you guys, but we
only allow alphanumerics, dashes, periods and underscores in our
addresses.)

jon



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-08 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

Jon Rust [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 8 December 2000 at 10:33:58 -0800
  On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:16:47PM +, Mark Delany wrote:
   
   What if the "something" has spaces in it? "John Doe"@example.com is a
   legit address.
  
  I see your point. Mea culpa. (I dunno about the rest of you guys, but we
  only allow alphanumerics, dashes, periods and underscores in our
  addresses.)

I keep the email addresses here simple, but I do think it's important
to support the wider world out there.
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How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-07 Thread Hans-Juergen Schwarz

Hello all,
when a form processing-cgi requieres a /path/to/mailprog I usually
put the line /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject in it. But is some cases it
doesn´t work especially when the default path is /usr/bin/sendmail
-t. It seems not to work with qmail. Is there a default way to get
these work? I´m not really into perl and stuff.

regards
Hans-Juergen





Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-07 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

Hans-Juergen Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 8 December 2000 at 00:17:04 +0100
  Hello all,
  when a form processing-cgi requieres a /path/to/mailprog I usually
  put the line /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject in it. But is some cases it
  doesn´t work especially when the default path is /usr/bin/sendmail
  -t. It seems not to work with qmail. Is there a default way to get
  these work? I´m not really into perl and stuff.

Qmail supplies a sendmail wrapper; a thing that looks like
/usr/lib/sendmail for many of the purposes that's invoked in scripted,
but which actually call qmail-inject.  Try pointing the scripts at
that.

(Installation isn't very standardized, but you should know or be able
to figure out where it got installed on your system.)
-- 
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Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/



Re: How to get Mail delivery in form cgi´s work

2000-12-07 Thread Peter Samuel

On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Hans-Juergen Schwarz wrote:

 Hello all,
 when a form processing-cgi requieres a /path/to/mailprog I usually
 put the line /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject in it. But is some cases it
 doesn´t work especially when the default path is /usr/bin/sendmail
 -t. It seems not to work with qmail. Is there a default way to get
 these work? I´m not really into perl and stuff.

Use qmail's sendmail wrapper

/var/qmail/bin/sendmail -t

It behaves just like

/usr/bin/sendmail -t

-- 
Regards
Peter
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