Mail Stuck in Queue
After resolving the POP slowdown issue with the help of some of the more polite folks here, I have developed a new problem. All mail that gets queued for delivery simply sits in the queue and doesn't get delivered. It doesn't matter if the mail is for local delivery, or is relay mail headed for a remote mail server. What I am aware of changing: I added -R and -H to tcpserver's command line, and I added my 10.x.x.x network to tcp.smtp.cdb. I can now deliver mail via SMTP to rblsmtpd, and it does queue the mail, so I doubt the issue is in my tcp connection rules. I am accepting connections with rblsmtpd with the no-TXT-records patch, and logging is being done by splogger to /var/log/messages. There are no messages indicating anything related to qmail in syslog since the issue began, except for one notation where rblsmtpd rejected a message from a black holed site. The line invoking rblsmtpd is (beware wordwrap): /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb \ -u 1004 -g 2108 0 smtp /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -r blackholes.mail-abuse.org \ -r dialups.mail-abuse.org \ -r 'relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%' \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 I can see messages queueing in /var/qmail/queue/mess/*, but they are not delivered either locally or to a remote host (mail.swbell.net). Through testing with other mail servers, I have determined that mail.swbell.net is operating normally -- it both sends and receives mail. I've sent test messages to my problem machine via mail.swbell.net and found them in my queue, waiting for local delivery. /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger has permissions as described in LWQ. The home directories of the users on the system are owned by themselves. Some are world-readable, some are not. None are world-writable: drwx-- 5 aaronusers4096 Feb 24 07:37 aaron drwx--x--x 5 bluerose users4096 Feb 24 07:37 blueroses drwx--x--x 5 boby users4096 Apr 11 21:32 boby drwx--x--x 5 dhwork users4096 Mar 16 01:48 dhwork drwx--x--x 5 djh users4096 Feb 24 07:38 djh drwx--x--x 5 dnslog users4096 Mar 24 08:25 dnslog drwx--x--x 5 ebay users4096 Feb 24 07:38 ebay drwx--x--x 5 friendof users4096 Feb 24 07:39 friendofbillw drwx--x--x 5 gtg users4096 Mar 29 09:37 gtg drwx--x--x 5 listsusers4096 May 2 12:44 lists drwx--x--x 6 netgeek users4096 Apr 13 21:37 netgeek drwx--x--x 6 rc5 users4096 Feb 25 08:56 rc5 drwx--x--x 17 rnbwpnt users4096 Apr 29 05:56 rnbwpnt drwx--x--x 6 shewolf users4096 Apr 23 18:42 shewolf drwx--x--x 5 shik users4096 Feb 24 07:41 shik drwx--x--x 5 thesaint users4096 May 2 14:24 thesaint drwx--x--x 5 vendors users4096 Feb 24 07:42 vendors drwx--x--x 5 viquiusers4096 Feb 24 07:42 viqui This is the output from qmail-showctl: qmail home directory: /var/qmail. user-ext delimiter: -. paternalism (in decimal): 2. silent concurrency limit: 120. subdirectory split: 23. user ids: 1003, 1004, 1005, 0, 1006, 1007, 1008, 1009. group ids: 2108, 2107. badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. defaultdomain: Default domain name is goldblatt.net. defaulthost: Default host name is goldblatt.net. doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. locals: Messages for localhost are delivered locally. Messages for wndrgrl.goldblatt.net are delivered locally. Messages for virtualhost.goldblatt.net are delivered locally. Messages for goldblatt.net are delivered locally. me: My name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. plusdomain: Plus domain name is goldblatt.net. qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. rcpthosts: SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at goldblatt.net. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at virtualhost.goldblatt.net. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at shikky.com. SMTP clients may send messages to
Re: Mail Stuck in Queue
Is qmail running? What does ps aux | grep qmail show? (Or whatever ps is appropriate for your OS?) Regards. On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:30:17PM -, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: After resolving the POP slowdown issue with the help of some of the more polite folks here, I have developed a new problem. All mail that gets queued for delivery simply sits in the queue and doesn't get delivered. It doesn't matter if the mail is for local delivery, or is relay mail headed for a remote mail server. What I am aware of changing: I added -R and -H to tcpserver's command line, and I added my 10.x.x.x network to tcp.smtp.cdb. I can now deliver mail via SMTP to rblsmtpd, and it does queue the mail, so I doubt the issue is in my tcp connection rules. I am accepting connections with rblsmtpd with the no-TXT-records patch, and logging is being done by splogger to /var/log/messages. There are no messages indicating anything related to qmail in syslog since the issue began, except for one notation where rblsmtpd rejected a message from a black holed site. The line invoking rblsmtpd is (beware wordwrap): /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb \ -u 1004 -g 2108 0 smtp /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -r blackholes.mail-abuse.org \ -r dialups.mail-abuse.org \ -r 'relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay problem - see URL:http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%' \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 I can see messages queueing in /var/qmail/queue/mess/*, but they are not delivered either locally or to a remote host (mail.swbell.net). Through testing with other mail servers, I have determined that mail.swbell.net is operating normally -- it both sends and receives mail. I've sent test messages to my problem machine via mail.swbell.net and found them in my queue, waiting for local delivery. /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger has permissions as described in LWQ. The home directories of the users on the system are owned by themselves. Some are world-readable, some are not. None are world-writable: drwx-- 5 aaronusers4096 Feb 24 07:37 aaron drwx--x--x 5 bluerose users4096 Feb 24 07:37 blueroses drwx--x--x 5 boby users4096 Apr 11 21:32 boby drwx--x--x 5 dhwork users4096 Mar 16 01:48 dhwork drwx--x--x 5 djh users4096 Feb 24 07:38 djh drwx--x--x 5 dnslog users4096 Mar 24 08:25 dnslog drwx--x--x 5 ebay users4096 Feb 24 07:38 ebay drwx--x--x 5 friendof users4096 Feb 24 07:39 friendofbillw drwx--x--x 5 gtg users4096 Mar 29 09:37 gtg drwx--x--x 5 listsusers4096 May 2 12:44 lists drwx--x--x 6 netgeek users4096 Apr 13 21:37 netgeek drwx--x--x 6 rc5 users4096 Feb 25 08:56 rc5 drwx--x--x 17 rnbwpnt users4096 Apr 29 05:56 rnbwpnt drwx--x--x 6 shewolf users4096 Apr 23 18:42 shewolf drwx--x--x 5 shik users4096 Feb 24 07:41 shik drwx--x--x 5 thesaint users4096 May 2 14:24 thesaint drwx--x--x 5 vendors users4096 Feb 24 07:42 vendors drwx--x--x 5 viquiusers4096 Feb 24 07:42 viqui This is the output from qmail-showctl: qmail home directory: /var/qmail. user-ext delimiter: -. paternalism (in decimal): 2. silent concurrency limit: 120. subdirectory split: 23. user ids: 1003, 1004, 1005, 0, 1006, 1007, 1008, 1009. group ids: 2108, 2107. badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. defaultdomain: Default domain name is goldblatt.net. defaulthost: Default host name is goldblatt.net. doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. locals: Messages for localhost are delivered locally. Messages for wndrgrl.goldblatt.net are delivered locally. Messages for virtualhost.goldblatt.net are delivered locally. Messages for goldblatt.net are delivered locally. me: My name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net. percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. plusdomain: Plus domain name is goldblatt.net. qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. rcpthosts: SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at goldblatt.net. SMTP clients may send
Re: Mail Stuck in Queue
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:30:17PM -, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: All mail that gets queued for delivery simply sits in the queue and doesn't get delivered. It doesn't matter if the mail is for local delivery, or is relay mail headed for a remote mail server. Is qmail-send running? It doesn't sound like it is. What's the output of ps awwux | grep qmail? Chris PGP signature
Re: Mail Stuck in Queue
Aaron Goldblatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All mail that gets queued for delivery simply sits in the queue and doesn't get delivered. [...] ps aux shows this (again, beware wordwrap): root 242 0.0 0.2 1068 332 ?SApr30 0:01 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup wndrg...qmaild9798 0.0 0.4 1356 556 ?S12:34 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb -u 1004 ... root 9799 0.0 0.2 1056 292 ?S12:34 0:00 /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 qmail-send isn't running (the part that actually takes messages out of the queue, and delivers them locally or remotely). Run your qmail-start script or equivalent, or issue an appropriate command to svscan. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Mail Stuck in Queue
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:30:17PM -, Aaron Goldblatt wrote: As I indicated, syslog shows noting useful. Just lots of me logging in via SSH and su'ing to root. No qmail-related entries, save the rbl rejection, since 4/30/01 at quarter past noon. This is in /var/log/messages, right? Try looking at /var/log/maillog. If there is no such thing, check the contents of /etc/syslog.conf to figure out where 'mail' messages are being sent. ps aux shows this (again, beware wordwrap): root 242 0.0 0.2 1068 332 ? S Apr30 0:01 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup wndrg... qmaild 9798 0.0 0.4 1356 556 ? S 12:34 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb -u 1004 ... root 9799 0.0 0.2 1056 292 ? S 12:34 0:00 /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 How did you generate this output? In other words, did you run ps aux | grep qmail or did you just run 'ps aux' and cut-n-paste the relevant parts? The reason I ask is that you are not showing the following entries: qmails 223 0.0 0.6 936 384 con- I Fri01AM 0:58.06 qmail-send root 240 0.0 0.4 880 264 ?? I Fri01AM 0:07.17 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/ qmailr 241 0.0 0.6 892 364 ?? I Fri01AM 0:03.92 qmail-rspawn qmailq 242 0.0 0.5 868 292 ?? I Fri01AM 0:10.63 qmail-clean These are created when you run 'qmail-start' through one of your system startup scripts. Normally that script is a copy of one of the files in /var/qmail/boot . I don't know what OS you're running, so I can't tell you where to look, but you should have such a script. Those 4 programs are the programs that actually control mail delivery, both locally (qmail-lspawn) and remotely (qmail-rspawn). They need to be running. Tim -- * * * | 1) It's SLOW!-- man tcpserver - especially -R,-H,-l qmail | 2) Roaming users -- http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#relaying FAQS | 3) Secondary MX -- list in rcpthosts, NOT in locals/virtualdomains * * * | 4) Discard mail -- # line ONLY, in appropriate .qmail file
Re: Mail Stuck in Queue
What's the output of ps awwux | grep qmail? For both Mr. Johnson and Mr. Delaney (whose message is now queued): root@wndrgrl:~/qmail-1.03# ps awwux|grep qmail root 242 0.0 0.2 1068 332 ?SApr30 0:01 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup wndrgrl.goldblatt.net /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir qmaild 14559 0.0 0.4 1356 556 pts/1S16:28 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcprules/tcp.smtp.cdb -u 1004 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd root 14560 0.0 0.2 1056 292 pts/1S16:28 0:00 /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 root@wndrgrl:~/qmail-1.03# So apparently qmail-send isn't running. But based on the qmail pictures at crypto, qmail-send is triggered by qmail-queue. I suppose I'm misinterpreting triggered to mean spawned or forked, when it means signaled? As I write this I'm also investigating the supervise scripts (section 2.8.2.2) at LWQ; am I correct in believing that correctly installing qmail under supervise (rather than rc.d as now) would resolve my issue, and that qmail-send would then go about unsticking my queue? Thank you. ag _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Mail stuck in queue - what to do about it?
I have 36 messages which appear to be permanently stuck in the queue, I'm running qmail 1.03 with the holdremote patch on Mandrake Linux 6.1. Normally everything runs quite smoothly but I sent a *lot* of mail (by my standards!) last night, probably a few hundred messages in ten minutes or so and these 36 messages have 'stuck'. Most of the messages were to the same destination so I can't see what's special about these. qmail-qstat reports:- messages in queue: 36 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 qmail-qread reports:- 26 Jan 2000 21:31:44 GMT #20516 1597 [EMAIL PROTECTED] remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 Jan 2000 21:31:44 GMT #20517 1612 [EMAIL PROTECTED] remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 Jan 2000 21:31:45 GMT #20518 2339 [EMAIL PROTECTED] remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 Jan 2000 21:31:45 GMT #20519 3708 [EMAIL PROTECTED] remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] [plus lots more similar] I have tried 'kill -ALRM qmail-send' but that doesn't seem to encourage anything to happen. What do I have to do to get rid of these messages? It doesn't matter too much if there lost even. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Mail stuck in queue - what to do about it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Jan 00, at 20:31, Chris Green wrote: I have tried 'kill -ALRM qmail-send' but that doesn't seem to encourage anything to happen. Try running qmail-tcpok _before_ ALRMing qmail-send. What do I have to do to get rid of these messages? It doesn't matter too much if there lost even. Why does it matter then that they're in queue? If they're undeliverable for a week, they'll get deleted (bounced) anyway. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBOJC7LlMwP8g7qbw/EQInMACg+g6ygPCq5/X4AmAjtyBwjQ2zXiMAoPUu uwMrydreqnTFg17Z6FOX+fCh =YD2n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
Re: Mail stuck in queue - what to do about it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 09:39:58PM -, Petr Novotny wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Jan 00, at 20:31, Chris Green wrote: I have tried 'kill -ALRM qmail-send' but that doesn't seem to encourage anything to happen. Try running qmail-tcpok _before_ ALRMing qmail-send. Nothing interesting happens. What do I have to do to get rid of these messages? It doesn't matter too much if there lost even. Why does it matter then that they're in queue? If they're undeliverable for a week, they'll get deleted (bounced) anyway. A good point, maybe I'll just forget about them until they get sent back to me. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Mail stuck in queue - what to do about it?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 12:39:11PM -0800, Mark Delany wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 08:31:09PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have 36 messages which appear to be permanently stuck in the queue, I'm running qmail 1.03 with the holdremote patch on Mandrake Linux 6.1. Normally everything runs quite smoothly but I sent a *lot* of mail (by my standards!) last night, probably a few hundred messages in ten minutes or so and these 36 messages have 'stuck'. Most of the messages were to the same destination so I can't see what's special about these. What did you conclude from looking at the log messages associated with sending these messages? Do the log messages indicate a reason why they might be "stuck"? Is it a reason that you can fix? Is it a reason that someone else is likely to fix? Aha, a good point, sorry! They have been 'deferred' because the sender domain doesn't resolve, I 'bounced' them using mutt so the From: address doesn't change and they were originally from a domain that no longer exists! Thanks for your help - I must remember to look in the logs next time, a bit like RTFM but it's RTFL. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
