Password options

2001-03-01 Thread Richard Lyon
I work for a company that had a mail server operating prior to
my starting. It is a Slackware system running qmail-1.03. It is
configured with /home/maildir for the users. The rest of the network is
NT controlled. Most users are running Eudora Pro for a client. There is
limited use of Outlook at the same time. The password request uses the
shadow password for authentication. My CTO recently started asking about
switching to APOP instead of POP for logins. He started a packet sniffer
and pulled the user name and password for the mail transfer. As a result
of this he wants a more secure method used. From what I have been finding
the only program that works with qmail is checkpw. The drawback I see is
that the users password is stored in cleartext in the home directory.
Since the CTO does not want either of us to know these due to company
policy (currently when a password is changed I activate passwd and have
the user enter the new one). Is there a way to use the shadow password,
or a program that does not use a cleartext file? I do have a password
generator program that can be run to give me an encoded password. I use
this to generate a UNIX compatible code to activate the CVS program in
the NT environment for development.

Thanks in advance,


Richard Lyon
Network Administrator

AbsoluteFuture, Inc.
NE 8th Street, Suite 1414
Bellevue, WA 98004


Re: Password options

2001-03-01 Thread Matthew Patterson

On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, Richard Lyon wrote:


I work for a company that had a mail server operating prior to my starting. 
It is a Slackware system running qmail-1.03. It is configured with 
/home/maildir for the users. The rest of the network is NT controlled. Most 
users are running Eudora Pro for a client. There is limited use of Outlook 
at the same time. The password request uses the shadow password for 
authentication. My CTO recently started asking about switching to APOP 
instead of POP for logins. He started a packet sniffer and pulled the user 
name and password for the mail transfer. As a result of this he wants a 
more secure method used. From what I have been finding the only program 
that works with qmail is checkpw. The drawback I see is that the users 
password is stored in cleartext in the home directory. Since the CTO does 
not want either of us to know these due to company policy (currently when a 
password is changed I activate passwd and have the user enter the new one). 
Is there a way to use the shadow password, or a program that does not use a 
cleartext file? I do have a password generator program that can be run to 
give me an encoded password. I use this to generate a UNIX compatible code 
to activate the CVS program in the NT environment for development.

Thanks in advance,
Richard Lyon
Network Administrator

AbsoluteFuture, Inc.
NE 8th Street, Suite 1414
Bellevue, WA  98004

Go to www.qmail.org and search through the document for apop. You should find 2 items, 
the second of which sounds like what you want.

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Matthew H Patterson
Unix Systems Administrator
National Support Center, LLC
Naperville, Illinois, USA
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Re: Password options

2001-03-01 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 12:37:37PM -0800, Richard Lyon wrote:
[snip]
 cleartext file? I do have a password generator program that can be run to 
 give me an encoded password. I use this to generate a UNIX compatible code 
 to activate the CVS program in the NT environment for development.

Well, the choice is cleartext over the network, or cleartext on the
server. Plain POP3 offers no other choices.

What you probably want is pop3 with normal authentication (from
shadow), over SSL. www.qmail.org can help you out here.

Greetz, Peter.