Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Rogerio Brito

On Feb 22 2000, Fred Backman wrote:
> The second problem is SMTP servers which are down, such as this
> one (again I can give you a list of many such servers):
> 
> rexx.riskymail.com

Which shows that they've appropriately chosen their domain
name.  :-)


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Large queues (was: Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections)

2000-02-22 Thread Rogerio Brito

On Feb 22 2000, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Okay: a growing queue is not a problem in and of itself.  qmail deals
> very nicely with a large queue.

Yes. The problem might be the time spent in the kernel part of
the filesystem code.

> If you handle such a volume of mail that the queue is usually large
> (<25K separate messages), then you should change conf-split,
> recompile, and reinstall to /var/qmail2.

I don't know what is the operating system in question (if it
was mentioned, I'm sorry), but reiserfs could also help...


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Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Fred Backman

Russell Nelson wrote:

> If mail is not being delivered obviously something is wrong.  It's
> sufficient for you to verify that the problem is not on your end,
> unless you're really into sysadmining other people's machines for
> them just because you have mail to be delivered to users there.

Mail is being delivered fine locally, but kind of struggling remotely
due to a large amount of bogus/unconfigured remote domains.

We have about 10K messages in the queue now, where qmail is
failing to deliver to remote domains such as these three (to mention
just a few, I can give you many many more domains). The problem
with these are missing MX records:

163.com
amanda.elsitio.com
21f.com

The second problem is SMTP servers which are down, such as this
one (again I can give you a list of many such servers):

rexx.riskymail.com






Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Russell Nelson

Fred Backman writes:
 > Russell Nelson wrote:
 > 
 > > Fred Backman writes:
 > >  > Our queue is growing due to failed smtp connections.
 > >
 > > So?  This is not, in itself, a problem.
 > 
 > Tell my managers :-)

Okay: a growing queue is not a problem in and of itself.  qmail deals
very nicely with a large queue.  If you handle such a volume of mail
that the queue is usually large (<25K separate messages), then you
should change conf-split, recompile, and reinstall to /var/qmail2.

 > I agree, it's just that the delivery of emails is already getting delayed
 > by hours just because of these failed connections. It's mainly bounces
 > from mailing lists.

If mail is not being delivered obviously something is wrong.  It's
sufficient for you to verify that the problem is not on your end,
unless you're really into sysadmining other people's machines for
them just because you have mail to be delivered to users there.

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Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Fred Backman

Russell Nelson wrote:

> Fred Backman writes:
>  > Our queue is growing due to failed smtp connections.
>
> So?  This is not, in itself, a problem.

Tell my managers :-)

I agree, it's just that the delivery of emails is already getting delayed
by hours just because of these failed connections. It's mainly bounces
from mailing lists.



Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Russell Nelson

Fred Backman writes:
 > Our queue is growing due to failed smtp connections.

So?  This is not, in itself, a problem.

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Re: Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer

> Can anyone please advice what to do?

Sometimes I look for an alternative host in this domain or the parent 
domain that accepts the mails - then I establish an entry in smtproutes.

Some annoying newsletters that don't accept bounces or are not reachable I 
block via badmailfrom (if the bounces are the problem).

It all depends on your policy. You also could simply wait until the mails 
bounce. Often the problem goes away after hours or days.

Regards, Frank



Problem with failed remote SMTP connections

2000-02-22 Thread Fred Backman

Our queue is growing due to failed smtp connections. There are two main reasons:
(1) there is an smtp server but it's refusing us to connect to it, and (2) the
domain has no smtp server to connect to. See below for examples. The queue keeps
growing and syslog is reporting a  lot of
"Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection."

Can anyone please advice what to do?

Thanks,
Fred


telnet po.netnet.com.sg 25  -- fails
telnet mail.teen-mail.com 25  -- fails


# nslookup -type=MX lists.hearme.com
Server:  dns1.telia.com
Address:  194.22.190.10

hearme.com
origin = hearme.com
mail addr = hostmaster.hearme.com
serial = 221800
refresh = 3600 (1 hour)
retry   = 900 (15 mins)
expire  = 864000 (10 days)
minimum ttl = 900 (15 mins)
# nslookup -type=MX server.snap.com
Server:  dns1.telia.com
Address:  194.22.190.10

Authoritative answers can be found from:
snap.com
origin = sv-ns1.snap.com
mail addr = hostmaster.snap.com
serial = 222103
refresh = 900 (15 mins)
retry   = 600 (10 mins)
expire  = 2592000 (30 days)
minimum ttl = 900 (15 mins)