RE: Autoresponder problem.
Hi Brad, I tried your version of autoresponder. Instead of responding with an turespond, the reply i get is a reply msg the subject becomes Re: original subject and the body of the mail contains the 2 lines From: x Subject: xxx Can you help.. Thanks Johnny At 10:02 AM 7/3/2001 -0700, Brad Dameron wrote: Actually you can run frontpage on Unix with Apache. I know, we do it now. Works better than the Windows Frontpage servers. Also there seems to be a lot of autoresponders out there. I took one of the original ones and revised it with a few fixes and some additions. I have attached it. --- Brad Dameron Network Account Executive TSCNet Inc. www.tscnet.com Silverdale, WA. 1-888-8TSCNET -Original Message- From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Autoresponder problem. Zak Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When ever someone uses a form to submit an email to a email address it works fine. but if they submit it to a auto-responder it doesn't work. It doesn't put the correct field in the FROM address so the responder doesn't know who to respond to. Auto-responders and other systems reply to the envelope sender address, not the contents of any From: header field. To set the envelope sender address, specify the -f option to either qmail-inject or the sendmail wrapper. I've tried FrontPage to get it to work and formmailer.pl both didn't do it. How on earth is FrontPage relevant? Why is a pseudo-HTML-editor trying to send mail? And unless I'm mistaken, FrontPage doesn't run on Unix, so it can hardly be calling qmail-inject. As for formmailer.pl, it's probably making sendmail-ish assumptions which you should fix. Many standard CGI-to-mail gateway scripts contain security holes anyway, and could use a good audit. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: a wee rant (was: 'RE: Autoresponder problem.')
John Hogan([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.03 13:41:47 +: not to be rude, but don't even go there... for our customers who want frontpage as their primary web-authoring interface (especially in an enterprise environment with document publishing, m$sql access, etc...) i always recommend win nt/2000... they're all made for each other and work best together... microshaft's internet intrusion server[tm] does not fit for production environments. sad thing, but true. frontpage is evil. can't people just write their web pages like other -- normal -- folks? what's the fuzz about all that frontpage 'features'? we have noticed measurable server performance and maintenance issues in a linux/apache enviroment - directory creation, backups and permissions are the main problems from a systems p o v... cryptic htpasswd/htaccess files are another i never had those problems on my bsd systems since years... also, there are still security issues with child webs in linux/apache environments - all such security issues can be resolved in an m$ iis environment (with application of the current corrections, patches, fixes and updates frontpage server extensions are a nightmare. /k -- Missionary Position: The missionary on top. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.net/ karstenrohrbach.de -- alphangenn.net -- alphascene.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 BF46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 10x PGP signature
Re: Autoresponder problem.
Zak Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When ever someone uses a form to submit an email to a email address it works fine. but if they submit it to a auto-responder it doesn't work. It doesn't put the correct field in the FROM address so the responder doesn't know who to respond to. Auto-responders and other systems reply to the envelope sender address, not the contents of any From: header field. To set the envelope sender address, specify the -f option to either qmail-inject or the sendmail wrapper. I've tried FrontPage to get it to work and formmailer.pl both didn't do it. How on earth is FrontPage relevant? Why is a pseudo-HTML-editor trying to send mail? And unless I'm mistaken, FrontPage doesn't run on Unix, so it can hardly be calling qmail-inject. As for formmailer.pl, it's probably making sendmail-ish assumptions which you should fix. Many standard CGI-to-mail gateway scripts contain security holes anyway, and could use a good audit. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Autoresponder problem.
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 08:39:15AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: How on earth is FrontPage relevant? Why is a pseudo-HTML-editor trying to send mail? And unless I'm mistaken, FrontPage doesn't run on Unix, so it can hardly be calling qmail-inject. I totally second your frontpage opinion, but the frontpage server extensions do run on Unix. And they have in fact a possibility to send mail, this needs to be configured somewhere (frontpage.cnf? don't remember it). -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
RE: Autoresponder problem.
Actually you can run frontpage on Unix with Apache. I know, we do it now. Works better than the Windows Frontpage servers. Also there seems to be a lot of autoresponders out there. I took one of the original ones and revised it with a few fixes and some additions. I have attached it. --- Brad Dameron Network Account Executive TSCNet Inc. www.tscnet.com Silverdale, WA. 1-888-8TSCNET -Original Message- From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Autoresponder problem. Zak Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When ever someone uses a form to submit an email to a email address it works fine. but if they submit it to a auto-responder it doesn't work. It doesn't put the correct field in the FROM address so the responder doesn't know who to respond to. Auto-responders and other systems reply to the envelope sender address, not the contents of any From: header field. To set the envelope sender address, specify the -f option to either qmail-inject or the sendmail wrapper. I've tried FrontPage to get it to work and formmailer.pl both didn't do it. How on earth is FrontPage relevant? Why is a pseudo-HTML-editor trying to send mail? And unless I'm mistaken, FrontPage doesn't run on Unix, so it can hardly be calling qmail-inject. As for formmailer.pl, it's probably making sendmail-ish assumptions which you should fix. Many standard CGI-to-mail gateway scripts contain security holes anyway, and could use a good audit. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ --- autorespond-2.0.0.tar.gz
a wee rant (was: 'RE: Autoresponder problem.')
Actually you can run frontpage on Unix with Apache. I know, we do it now. Works better than the Windows Frontpage servers. not to be rude, but don't even go there... for our customers who want frontpage as their primary web-authoring interface (especially in an enterprise environment with document publishing, m$sql access, etc...) i always recommend win nt/2000... they're all made for each other and work best together... we have noticed measurable server performance and maintenance issues in a linux/apache enviroment - directory creation, backups and permissions are the main problems from a systems p o v... cryptic htpasswd/htaccess files are another also, there are still security issues with child webs in linux/apache environments - all such security issues can be resolved in an m$ iis environment (with application of the current corrections, patches, fixes and updates snip sorry, vent closed back to work - hogan
Re: a wee rant (was: 'RE: Autoresponder problem.')
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 01:41:47PM -0500, John Hogan wrote: Actually you can run frontpage on Unix with Apache. I know, we do it now. Works better than the Windows Frontpage servers. also, there are still security issues with child webs in linux/apache environments - all such security issues can be resolved in an m$ iis environment (with application of the current corrections, patches, fixes and updates This is faar OT now. There is another patch for Apache out that is much better than the M$ one, so only their binary is used (in BSDi emulation on OpenBSD in our case), but not their buggy apache modifications. After all, this setup _is_ secure. In contrast to NT4/w2k. I suggest we move this discussion off-list now... -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
