Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-15 Thread Keary Suska

I have had this problem qmail+vpopmail if there is an error in a .qmail file
in vpopmail's file system. I had this occur (infinite sending loop) when a
.qmail file had a single blank line at the top. Qmail will balk at this, but
vpopmail freaks out. I would double check the .qmail files for that virtual
user.

-K

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
good with ketchup.


 From: David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:04:36 -0700
 To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts
 
 Here's an update.
 
 I have an email address called [EMAIL PROTECTED] (run via vpopmail)
 
 in /home/vpopmail/domains/everydns.net/support there is a .qmail file that
 just
 says
 cat .qmail:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So this forwards all [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 However this morning it sent forwarded about 6000 times.
 
 Now in my logs I have these just constantly appearing:
 == /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current ==
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460824500 starting delivery 6231: msg 562568 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460830500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460831500 starting delivery 6232: msg 562573 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460834500 status: local 0/10 remote 74/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.465616500 delivery 6231: deferral:
 Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.465620500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.466514500 delivery 6232: deferral:
 Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.466518500 status: local 0/10 remote 72/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460524500 starting delivery 6233: msg 562574 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460528500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460529500 starting delivery 6234: msg 562576 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460532500 status: local 0/10 remote 74/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460533500 starting delivery 6235: msg 562577 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460535500 status: local 0/10 remote 75/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.462625500 starting delivery 6236: msg 562578 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.462628500 status: local 0/10 remote 76/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.465389500 starting delivery 6237: msg 562575 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So I got rid of the support forward and now support seems to be reiceving mail
 fine -- but how I do clear my queue when qmail-qstat reports:
 messages in queue: 5046
 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
 
 and qmail-qread reports:
 snip x ALOT
 14 Jun 2001 11:14:28 GMT  #561180  671057  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:16:24 GMT  #561379  691091  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:18:22 GMT  #561578  710756  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:20:21 GMT  #561777  730706  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:22:19 GMT  #561976  750341  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:24:29 GMT  #562175  770246  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:26:48 GMT  #562374  790598  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:29:13 GMT  #562573  810632  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:31:23 GMT  #562772  830666  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 snip x ALOT
 
 Thanks,
 davidu
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David U. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:33 AM
 To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To
 Subject: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts
 
 
 Hi,
 
 this morning I awoke to find some 6000 emails in my inbox from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- they were the same exact 6000 emails.
 
 The inbox is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Also in my ps list, I have about 80 qmail-remote spawns that look like this:
 
 998 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1012 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1016 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1038 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1039 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1063 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 
 What are those? How do I kill them off?  Why am I getting 6000 of the same
 email?
 
 I unfortunatly just cleared my inbox so I don't have headers.
 
 Would this be an issue on my end?  If it is, am I now causing a massive
 headache
 for their admin?
 
 My site bandwidth is using a sustained 30K/s to his server this morning...
 
 How can I quickly stop the problem, and find a solution, and discover what's
 happening?
 
 Thanks,
 DavidU
 
 
 
 




RE: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-15 Thread David U.

This was the case -- in fact, I learned that using pico to edit vpopmail .qmail
files causes it for some reason to barf -- using vi it doesn't.

I guess this just proves that vi is the best editor out there.

*GRIN*

-davidu


-Original Message-
From: Keary Suska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 3:52 PM
To: Qmail
Subject: Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts


I have had this problem qmail+vpopmail if there is an error in a .qmail file
in vpopmail's file system. I had this occur (infinite sending loop) when a
.qmail file had a single blank line at the top. Qmail will balk at this, but
vpopmail freaks out. I would double check the .qmail files for that virtual
user.

-K

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
good with ketchup.


 From: David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:04:36 -0700
 To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

 Here's an update.

 I have an email address called [EMAIL PROTECTED] (run via vpopmail)

 in /home/vpopmail/domains/everydns.net/support there is a .qmail file that
 just
 says
 cat .qmail:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 So this forwards all [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 However this morning it sent forwarded about 6000 times.

 Now in my logs I have these just constantly appearing:
 == /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current ==
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460824500 starting delivery 6231: msg 562568 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460830500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460831500 starting delivery 6232: msg 562573 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.460834500 status: local 0/10 remote 74/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.465616500 delivery 6231: deferral:
 Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.465620500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.466514500 delivery 6232: deferral:
 Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
 2001-06-14 08:02:02.466518500 status: local 0/10 remote 72/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460524500 starting delivery 6233: msg 562574 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460528500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460529500 starting delivery 6234: msg 562576 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460532500 status: local 0/10 remote 74/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460533500 starting delivery 6235: msg 562577 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.460535500 status: local 0/10 remote 75/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.462625500 starting delivery 6236: msg 562578 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.462628500 status: local 0/10 remote 76/120
 2001-06-14 08:02:04.465389500 starting delivery 6237: msg 562575 to remote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 So I got rid of the support forward and now support seems to be reiceving mail
 fine -- but how I do clear my queue when qmail-qstat reports:
 messages in queue: 5046
 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

 and qmail-qread reports:
 snip x ALOT
 14 Jun 2001 11:14:28 GMT  #561180  671057  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:16:24 GMT  #561379  691091  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:18:22 GMT  #561578  710756  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:20:21 GMT  #561777  730706  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:22:19 GMT  #561976  750341  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:24:29 GMT  #562175  770246  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:26:48 GMT  #562374  790598  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:29:13 GMT  #562573  810632  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14 Jun 2001 11:31:23 GMT  #562772  830666  
 remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 snip x ALOT

 Thanks,
 davidu


 -Original Message-
 From: David U. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:33 AM
 To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To
 Subject: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts


 Hi,

 this morning I awoke to find some 6000 emails in my inbox from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- they were the same exact 6000 emails.

 The inbox is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Also in my ps list, I have about 80 qmail-remote spawns that look like this:

 998 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1012 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1016 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1038 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1039 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer
 1063 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com
 tomer

 What are those? How do I kill them off?  Why am I getting 6000 of the same
 email?

 I unfortunatly just cleared my inbox so I don't have headers.

 Would this be an issue on my end?  If it is, am I now causing a massive
 headache
 for their admin?

 My site bandwidth is using a sustained 30K/s to his server this morning...

 How

RE: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread David U.

Here's an update.

I have an email address called [EMAIL PROTECTED] (run via vpopmail)

in /home/vpopmail/domains/everydns.net/support there is a .qmail file that just
says
cat .qmail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So this forwards all [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However this morning it sent forwarded about 6000 times.

Now in my logs I have these just constantly appearing:
== /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current ==
2001-06-14 08:02:02.460824500 starting delivery 6231: msg 562568 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-06-14 08:02:02.460830500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
2001-06-14 08:02:02.460831500 starting delivery 6232: msg 562573 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-06-14 08:02:02.460834500 status: local 0/10 remote 74/120
2001-06-14 08:02:02.465616500 delivery 6231: deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
2001-06-14 08:02:02.465620500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
2001-06-14 08:02:02.466514500 delivery 6232: deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
2001-06-14 08:02:02.466518500 status: local 0/10 remote 72/120
2001-06-14 08:02:04.460524500 starting delivery 6233: msg 562574 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-06-14 08:02:04.460528500 status: local 0/10 remote 73/120
2001-06-14 08:02:04.460529500 starting delivery 6234: msg 562576 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-06-14 08:02:04.460532500 status: local 0/10 remote 74/120
2001-06-14 08:02:04.460533500 starting delivery 6235: msg 562577 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-06-14 08:02:04.460535500 status: local 0/10 remote 75/120
2001-06-14 08:02:04.462625500 starting delivery 6236: msg 562578 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-06-14 08:02:04.462628500 status: local 0/10 remote 76/120
2001-06-14 08:02:04.465389500 starting delivery 6237: msg 562575 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So I got rid of the support forward and now support seems to be reiceving mail
fine -- but how I do clear my queue when qmail-qstat reports:
messages in queue: 5046
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

and qmail-qread reports:
snip x ALOT
14 Jun 2001 11:14:28 GMT  #561180  671057  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:16:24 GMT  #561379  691091  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:18:22 GMT  #561578  710756  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:20:21 GMT  #561777  730706  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:22:19 GMT  #561976  750341  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:24:29 GMT  #562175  770246  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:26:48 GMT  #562374  790598  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:29:13 GMT  #562573  810632  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14 Jun 2001 11:31:23 GMT  #562772  830666  
remote  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip x ALOT

Thanks,
davidu


-Original Message-
From: David U. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:33 AM
To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To
Subject: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts


Hi,

this morning I awoke to find some 6000 emails in my inbox from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- they were the same exact 6000 emails.

The inbox is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also in my ps list, I have about 80 qmail-remote spawns that look like this:

  998 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1012 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1016 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1038 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1039 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer
 1063 ?S  0:00  |   |   \_ qmail-remote tomerwolf.com  tomer

What are those? How do I kill them off?  Why am I getting 6000 of the same
email?

I unfortunatly just cleared my inbox so I don't have headers.

Would this be an issue on my end?  If it is, am I now causing a massive headache
for their admin?

My site bandwidth is using a sustained 30K/s to his server this morning...

How can I quickly stop the problem, and find a solution, and discover what's
happening?

Thanks,
DavidU






Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread Charles Cazabon

David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 this morning I awoke to find some 6000 emails in my inbox from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- they were the same exact 6000 emails.

Perhaps their MTA isn't finishing the SMTP converstation properly, so they
think they need to try delivery again?

You said you don't have headers.  You should probably use recordio to capture
one of the SMTP sessions from their MTA; that will tell you what's wrong.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
---



Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread Niles Rowland

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I got rid of the support forward and now support seems to be
reiceving mail
 fine -- but how I do clear my queue when qmail-qstat reports:
 messages in queue: 5046
 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Delete the queue and rebuild it.  A good tool for that is queue-fix.

Niles





Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread Dave Sill

Niles Rowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I got rid of the support forward and now support seems to be
reiceving mail
 fine -- but how I do clear my queue when qmail-qstat reports:
 messages in queue: 5046
 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Delete the queue and rebuild it.

Yeah, he probably won't lose any important messages...

A good tool for that is queue-fix.

No, queue-fix fixes corrupt queues. To delete and rebuild, you should
rm -rf /var/qmail/queue and make setup check from the qmail source
directory. But that will, of course, throw out *everything* in the
queue, which might not be disirable.

-Dave



Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread Guillermo Villasana Cardoza

actually queue-fix will do the job right... I know I have done it.

just delete de subfolders in the queue  and run the queue-fix

Terius
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts


 Niles Rowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So I got rid of the support forward and now support seems to be
 reiceving mail
  fine -- but how I do clear my queue when qmail-qstat reports:
  messages in queue: 5046
  messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
 
 Delete the queue and rebuild it.
 
 Yeah, he probably won't lose any important messages...
 
 A good tool for that is queue-fix.
 
 No, queue-fix fixes corrupt queues. To delete and rebuild, you should
 rm -rf /var/qmail/queue and make setup check from the qmail source
 directory. But that will, of course, throw out *everything* in the
 queue, which might not be disirable.
 
 -Dave
 




RE: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread David U.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Yeah, he probably won't lose any important messages...

heh, yeah, I *would* want to do that.

No, queue-fix fixes corrupt queues. To delete and rebuild, you should
rm -rf /var/qmail/queue and make setup check from the qmail source
directory. But that will, of course, throw out *everything* in the
queue, which might not be disirable.

I stopped qmstp and qsend -- I then deleted a LOT from the queue and ran
queue-fix which did some delinking and whatnot.  Moved my queue from being 6
gigs to 250 megs. ;-)

now I just want to know why [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwarded to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6000 times (until /var filled I assume)

instead of just once.  this is all via localhost, no other machines involved.

-davidu




Re: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread Dave Sill

Guillermo Villasana Cardoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

actually queue-fix will do the job right... I know I have done it.

I didn't mean to imply that it wouldn't work, just that it's
preferable to use the rm/make method since it's definitive and doesn't
require downloading/installing a third-party utility. For example, if
you've installed the big-todo patch, you'll need to install the
associated patch for queue-fix or it'll contruct an incompatible
queue. It's easier and safer to let qmail rebuild the queue.

-Dave



RE: URGENT: Qmail-remote gone nuts

2001-06-14 Thread Dave Sill

David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

now I just want to know why [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwarded to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6000 times (until /var filled I assume) instead
of just once.  this is all via localhost, no other machines involved.

I'd look at the logs, from the beginning of the incident.

-Dave