can't send to addresses w/ in them.

2000-09-21 Thread Duane L.


One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
eg; DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  and   
the message is returned as undeliverable.  Of course this customer has to
point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
problems. DOH!

I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.


Any insight would be greatly apreciated.

TIA
Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

  




Re: can't send to addresses w/ in them.

2000-09-21 Thread markd

On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
 
 One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
 his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
 eg; DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
 which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  and   

I see no evidence of that. Can you show us the log entries?

Try:

qmail-inject 'DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 

and show us your logs as a consequence.


Regards.

 the message is returned as undeliverable.  Of course this customer has to
 point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
 problems. DOH!
 
 I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
 wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
 why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
 ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
 
 
 Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
 
 TIA
 Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 
 
 



Re: can't send to addresses w/ in them.

2000-09-21 Thread cfm

On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
 
 One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
 his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
 eg; DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
 which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  and   
 the message is returned as undeliverable.  Of course this customer has to
 point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
 problems. DOH!


I know for a fact that qmail can send to addresses with a  in them because
I once had a mailing list that sent them unquoted, backgrounded itself,
resent them because it did not complete, ad infinitem  until I caught it 
and fixed the quoting.  In a nutshell the **shell** was the issue,
not qmail.

cfm


 
 I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
 wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
 why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
 ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
 
 
 Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
 
 TIA
 Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 
 

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Re: can't send to addresses w/ in them.

2000-09-21 Thread Peter Samuel

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Duane L. wrote:

 
 One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
 his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
 eg; DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
 which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  and   

This looks like it is passing through the Obtuse smtpd program. That
will escape strange characters (it's own definition of strange) with
the hex code. As to where the obtuse smtpd is in the chain of mail
from your customer to his brother remains to be seen.

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Re: can't send to addresses w/ in them.

2000-09-21 Thread Duane L.

Well apparently the problem is with Outlook Express (surprise surprise)
Using Elm or Pine delivers the message just fine.  My apoligies for not
trying a different mail client before posting my question.

Thanks though,

Duane

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
  
  One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
  his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
  eg; DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
  which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  and   
 
 I see no evidence of that. Can you show us the log entries?
 
 Try:
 
 qmail-inject 'DNB[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
 
 and show us your logs as a consequence.
 
 
 Regards.
 
  the message is returned as undeliverable.  Of course this customer has to
  point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
  problems. DOH!
  
  I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
  wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
  why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
  ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
  
  
  Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
  
  TIA
  Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
  

  
 

Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -