Re: leave a copy of messages on server
Hi guys, isaac... -- isaac -- > When a message is read but not cleared, qmail moves the message from the > Maildir/new directory to Maildir/cur directory and appends ":2," to the end > of the message. yeah... i had seen :o) > From what information I could find regarding this problem, it all boils down > to the client email application and its POP functionality, not qmail. i solved my problem starting qmail-pop3d by tcpserver. -- peter --- >It does exactly what you tell it to. What is the problem? >Please state what you expected the computer to do, and >what it did instead. oky, excuse me :oP may many many thanks Roberto
Re: R: R: leave a copy of messages on server
I think you may do it, but you must modify your pop3 server. It should memorize the downloaded messages numbers and then execute the opportune "dele #" at the end of session (or immediately after RETR command, when a new command is given and it may be sure that previous RETR has completed). Or... If I'm not wrong, all read messages are moved to ../Maildir/cur, so you could delete all messages in those ../Maildir/cur directories. Tonino At 22/05/2001 22/05/2001 +0200, Andrea Cerrito wrote: >Mmmmhhh, I don't think it's possible. >Anyway, you can set a crontab to delete old messages (ie: 30 days old) or >you can set quota. > >It's not advisable to make the delete mandatory because: > >1) user may want to look his/her messages from a location, and to download >them from another one, >2) the data transfer may fail for some reason (and you force deletion of a >message unread by user) > >Good work > >--- >Cordiali saluti / Best regards >Andrea Cerrito >^^ >Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A. >P.zzale Bosco 3A >05100 Terni IT >Tel. +39 744 5441330 >Fax. +39 744 5441372 >-Messaggio originale- >Da: medi [mailto:medi]Per conto di Medi Montaseri >Inviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2001 21.11 >A: Andrea Cerrito >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Oggetto: Re: R: leave a copy of messages on server > >I have the opposit question, is it possible to mandate delete? >That is, can I mandate the all messages be downloaded from a POP server? > >Andrea Cerrito wrote: >>Mmmm... strange. >> >>A normal pop3 session is like >> >>... >>stat >>retr #num >>dele #num >> >>and if you set "leave a copy..." the dele action is never done. >>Try to telnet to your box and act as a mail client: you'll be able to know >>if it's a problem with qmail (I don't think so, anyway) or with your client. >> >>I mean >> >>+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>user $YOURUSER >>+OK >>pass $YOURPASS >>+OK >>stat >>+OK 1 1228 >>retr 1 >>bla bla bla bla bla >>quit >>+OK >> >>then reconnect and see if the message is still alive. >>Good luck >>--- >>Cordiali saluti / Best regards >>Andrea Cerrito >>^^^^^^ >>Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A. >>P.zzale Bosco 3A >>05100 Terni IT >>Tel. +39 744 5441330 >>Fax. +39 744 5441372 >> >> > -Messaggio originale- >> > Da: Roberto Marzialetti >> [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > Inviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2001 18.39 >> > A: Qmail List >> > Oggetto: leave a copy of messages on server >> > >> > >> > Hi boys >> > >> > have got a problem... >> > well... if i active the option "leave a copy >> > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages >> > doesn't leave on my server :o(( >> > >> > have you got some solution ? >> > >> > many thanks >> > >> > Roberto >> > >> > > >-- > >=== > >Medi Montaseri, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 408-450-7114 > >Prepass Inc, IT/Operations, Software Eng. > >=== >
Re: R: leave a copy of messages on server
Medi Montaseri([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.21 12:11:25 +: > I have the opposit question, is it possible to mandate delete? > That is, can I mandate the all messages be downloaded from a POP server? it would probably break the protocol. /k -- > Black holes are where GOD is dividing by zero KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.net/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 BF46
R: R: leave a copy of messages on server
Mmmmhhh, I don't think it's possible. Anyway, you can set a crontab to delete old messages (ie: 30 days old) or you can set quota. It's not advisable to make the delete mandatory because: 1) user may want to look his/her messages from a location, and to download them from another one, 2) the data transfer may fail for some reason (and you force deletion of a message unread by user) Good work ---Cordiali saluti / Best regardsAndrea Cerrito^^Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A.P.zzale Bosco 3A05100 Terni ITTel. +39 744 5441330Fax. +39 744 5441372 -Messaggio originale-Da: medi [mailto:medi]Per conto di Medi MontaseriInviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2001 21.11A: Andrea CerritoCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Oggetto: Re: R: leave a copy of messages on serverI have the opposit question, is it possible to mandate delete? That is, can I mandate the all messages be downloaded from a POP server? Andrea Cerrito wrote: Mmmm... strange. A normal pop3 session is like ... stat retr #num dele #num and if you set "leave a copy..." the dele action is never done. Try to telnet to your box and act as a mail client: you'll be able to know if it's a problem with qmail (I don't think so, anyway) or with your client. I mean +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> user $YOURUSER +OK pass $YOURPASS +OK stat +OK 1 1228 retr 1 bla bla bla bla bla quit +OK then reconnect and see if the message is still alive. Good luck --- Cordiali saluti / Best regards Andrea Cerrito ^^ Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A. P.zzale Bosco 3A 05100 Terni IT Tel. +39 744 5441330 Fax. +39 744 5441372 > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Roberto Marzialetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Inviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2001 18.39 > A: Qmail List > Oggetto: leave a copy of messages on server > > > Hi boys > > have got a problem... > well... if i active the option "leave a copy > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages > doesn't leave on my server :o(( > > have you got some solution ? > > many thanks > > Roberto > >-- === Medi Montaseri, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 408-450-7114 Prepass Inc, IT/Operations, Software Eng. ===
Re: leave a copy of messages on server
FWIW, this is a tactic I have recommended on many occasions when an Outlook or Outlook Express user reports seemingly inexplicable behavior. It repairs such problems remarkably often. Respectfully, JS On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 10:37:17AM -0700, Isaac Chapman wrote: > > To fix my Outlook problem, I erased the appropriate Outlook email accounts > from the registry and then recreated it in Outlook. Not exactly sure why, > but this solved the problem. > > Outlook's account registry location: > HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Office/Outlook/OMI Account > Manager/Accounts/ > > Where is the appropriate number for the email account connecting > with Qmail.
Re: leave a copy of messages on server
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 07:37:13PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:38:31PM +0200, Roberto Marzialetti wrote: > > Hi boys > > > > have got a problem... > > well... if i active the option "leave a copy > > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages > > doesn't leave on my server :o(( > > > > have you got some solution ? > > It does exactly what you tell it to. What is the problem? On second thought, your English is so abominable we probably misread you. Please retry in legible English. Greetz, Peter.
Re: R: leave a copy of messages on server
I have the opposit question, is it possible to mandate delete? That is, can I mandate the all messages be downloaded from a POP server? Andrea Cerrito wrote: Mmmm... strange. A normal pop3 session is like ... stat retr #num dele #num and if you set "leave a copy..." the dele action is never done. Try to telnet to your box and act as a mail client: you'll be able to know if it's a problem with qmail (I don't think so, anyway) or with your client. I mean +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> user $YOURUSER +OK pass $YOURPASS +OK stat +OK 1 1228 retr 1 bla bla bla bla bla quit +OK then reconnect and see if the message is still alive. Good luck --- Cordiali saluti / Best regards Andrea Cerrito ^^ Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A. P.zzale Bosco 3A 05100 Terni IT Tel. +39 744 5441330 Fax. +39 744 5441372 > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Roberto Marzialetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Inviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2001 18.39 > A: Qmail List > Oggetto: leave a copy of messages on server > > > Hi boys > > have got a problem... > well... if i active the option "leave a copy > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages > doesn't leave on my server :o(( > > have you got some solution ? > > many thanks > > Roberto > > -- === Medi Montaseri, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 408-450-7114 Prepass Inc, IT/Operations, Software Eng. ===
RE: leave a copy of messages on server
I've experienced several problems regarding this and similar issues. When I checked my email from home using MS Outlook, the messages would clear no matter what the Outlook settings where. Also, checking email using Yahoo's other POP function would re-read messages, instead of only reading it once. When a message is read but not cleared, qmail moves the message from the Maildir/new directory to Maildir/cur directory and appends ":2," to the end of the message. >From what information I could find regarding this problem, it all boils down to the client email application and its POP functionality, not qmail. To fix my Outlook problem, I erased the appropriate Outlook email accounts from the registry and then recreated it in Outlook. Not exactly sure why, but this solved the problem. Outlook's account registry location: HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Office/Outlook/OMI Account Manager/Accounts/ Where is the appropriate number for the email account connecting with Qmail. -Original Message- From: Roberto Marzialetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:39 AM To: Qmail List Subject: leave a copy of messages on server Hi boys have got a problem... well... if i active the option "leave a copy of messages on server " on my email client, the messages doesn't leave on my server :o(( have you got some solution ? many thanks Roberto
Re: leave a copy of messages on server
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:38:31PM +0200, Roberto Marzialetti wrote: > Hi boys > > have got a problem... > well... if i active the option "leave a copy > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages > doesn't leave on my server :o(( > > have you got some solution ? It does exactly what you tell it to. What is the problem? Please state what you expected the computer to do, and what it did instead. Also, next time you have a question, please start a new thread. Look in the archives for more info about how to do this. Greetz, Peter.
Re: leave a copy of messages on server
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:38:31PM +0200, Roberto Marzialetti wrote: > Hi boys > > have got a problem... > well... if i active the option "leave a copy > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages > doesn't leave on my server :o(( > > have you got some solution ? > What did you expect to happen when you specified that mail should be left on the server? Both the client and the server are doing exactly what they are told. The options: 1. Realize that this is what you wanted. 2. Turn off this client option. -- Greg White
R: leave a copy of messages on server
Mmmm... strange. A normal pop3 session is like ... stat retr #num dele #num and if you set "leave a copy..." the dele action is never done. Try to telnet to your box and act as a mail client: you'll be able to know if it's a problem with qmail (I don't think so, anyway) or with your client. I mean +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> user $YOURUSER +OK pass $YOURPASS +OK stat +OK 1 1228 retr 1 bla bla bla bla bla quit +OK then reconnect and see if the message is still alive. Good luck --- Cordiali saluti / Best regards Andrea Cerrito ^^ Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A. P.zzale Bosco 3A 05100 Terni IT Tel. +39 744 5441330 Fax. +39 744 5441372 > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Roberto Marzialetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Inviato: lunedì 21 maggio 2001 18.39 > A: Qmail List > Oggetto: leave a copy of messages on server > > > Hi boys > > have got a problem... > well... if i active the option "leave a copy > of messages on server " on my email client, the messages > doesn't leave on my server :o(( > > have you got some solution ? > > many thanks > > Roberto > >
leave a copy of messages on server
Hi boys have got a problem... well... if i active the option "leave a copy of messages on server " on my email client, the messages doesn't leave on my server :o(( have you got some solution ? many thanks Roberto
