Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-11 Thread David Talkington

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Sam Carleton wrote:

Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that
works with Maildir/?

We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe
Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former
is in internet mail mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that
corporate/workgroup mode).  MAPI is an abomination anyway.

At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm
happy to say was about 18 months ago.
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Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-11 Thread Ricardo SIGNES

In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington wrote:
 Sam Carleton wrote:
 Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that
 works with Maildir/?
 We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe
 Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former
 is in internet mail mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that
 corporate/workgroup mode).  MAPI is an abomination anyway.
 At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm
 happy to say was about 18 months ago.

That's true for Outlook 2000, yes.  Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and- 
MAPI, so I've switched to that at work.  Sadly, we use the abomination.

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rjbs

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RE: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-11 Thread Chris Herrmann

We use O2k  courier-imap sitting on top of vpopmail - works fine. Allows
webmail to plug in nicely too.

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Subject: Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook


In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington
wrote:
 Sam Carleton wrote:
 Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and
that
 works with Maildir/?
 We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe
 Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former
 is in internet mail mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that
 corporate/workgroup mode).  MAPI is an abomination anyway.
 At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm
 happy to say was about 18 months ago.

That's true for Outlook 2000, yes.  Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and-
MAPI, so I've switched to that at work.  Sadly, we use the abomination.

--
rjbs




qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-10 Thread Sam Carleton

Before folks start flaming me, I know Outlook sucks and I know that
Microsoft has never written a decent piece of code.  With that said...

I am using qmail, because it is the best mail server out there.  I would
like to be able to configure MS Outlook so that it interacts with qmail the
same way it does with Exchange.  Or at least similar in the respect that one
can manage folders and move mail around and it all stays on the server.  My
understanding is that IMAP is the solution.  I have installed courier-IMAP,
but from that mailing list I have learned that Outlook is not a standard MUA
with respect it IMAP, or anything else for that matter.

Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that
works with Maildir/?

Sam




Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-10 Thread Will Yardley

we use courier-imapd with no problems on our office mailserver, and some
people here use Outlook with no problems.  While courier can be a pain at
times it's probably the best solution.  You could also try UW imapd with the
(unofficial) Maildir patches.

i don't think anyone has problems moving folders around or whatever; we
usually make all the folders subfolders of 'Maildir' so if I wanted to make a
folder called foo The directory for foo would then be Maildir/.foo/ and if it
had a subdirectory bar it would be Maildir/.foo/.bar/

I think you have to play around with the settings in OE a little to get them
to recognize the folders but it should definitely work.  It's not going to be
as easy to configure as another MS product since, as you mentioned, but it
should definitely work.

perhaps you could let us know the settings you're using and the exact errors
you're getting.

You might try creating folders on the server and see if you can get outlook
to recognize them.  for instance, (not as root):
% cd Maildir/
% /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake .foo

will

On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:18:51PM -0400, Sam Carleton wrote:
 Before folks start flaming me, I know Outlook sucks and I know that
 Microsoft has never written a decent piece of code.  With that said...
 
 I am using qmail, because it is the best mail server out there.  I would
 like to be able to configure MS Outlook so that it interacts with qmail the
 same way it does with Exchange.  Or at least similar in the respect that one
 can manage folders and move mail around and it all stays on the server.  My
 understanding is that IMAP is the solution.  I have installed courier-IMAP,
 but from that mailing list I have learned that Outlook is not a standard MUA
 with respect it IMAP, or anything else for that matter.
 
 Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that
 works with Maildir/?
 
 Sam