Re: qmail-injecting a message with 50K Bcc:

2001-06-26 Thread dan . kelley


> > does this hold true for one-time mailings?  i'm sending a very dry email
> > detailing the ownership change of a corportaion, so i can't forsee many
> > responses (bounces are, of course, another story).
>
> It is not a difficult piece of software to set up, and doesn't take very
> much space. If you decide to install it, it will be there when you need
> it the next time for whatever reason. I can't imagine that a corporation
> wouldn't have something to manage even their internal mailing lists
> with, to keep archives, etc.
>
> > the reason that i originally tried to do this with qmail-inject instead
> > of elmlm was that i never saw a need to have list-like behavior (replies,
> > postings,etc).  that being tha case, is ezmlm still the best option?
>
> Hmm. You can set up an ezmlm list that is moderated, with no posting
> except moderators. The best option will be in your opinion, ultimately.

the best way for me turned out to be this:

sed -e 's/^/Bcc: /g' < address_list > bcc_address_list

add message content & other headers to bcc_address_list

/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject < bcc_address_list

this worked just fine, without the added steps of installing and configuring 
ezmlm just for this purpose.  for *purely* 1 time mailings, with no need for 
unsubscribes/moderation, etc, this seems to be the leanest way to do it.

thanks-

dan



Re: qmail-injecting a message with 50K Bcc:

2001-06-26 Thread Mike Jackson

Daniel Kelley wrote:
> 
> > Wrong. Ezmlm is what you need. It's a high speed mailing list manager,
> > and with the qmail-verh patch you can have individual addressing. You
> > can also take input from a text file of one address per line when
> > subscribing the list members.
> 
> does this hold true for one-time mailings?  i'm sending a very dry email
> detailing the ownership change of a corportaion, so i can't forsee many
> responses (bounces are, of course, another story).

It is not a difficult piece of software to set up, and doesn't take very
much space. If you decide to install it, it will be there when you need
it the next time for whatever reason. I can't imagine that a corporation
wouldn't have something to manage even their internal mailing lists
with, to keep archives, etc.
 
> the reason that i originally tried to do this with qmail-inject instead of
> elmlm was that i never saw a need to have list-like behavior (replies,
> postings,etc).  that being tha case, is ezmlm still the best option?

Hmm. You can set up an ezmlm list that is moderated, with no posting
except moderators. The best option will be in your opinion, ultimately.

Mike



Re: qmail-injecting a message with 50K Bcc:

2001-06-25 Thread Charles Cazabon

dan . kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> i'm trying to send a message to a list of approx. 50K email addresses.  i 
> figured that the best way to do this was to use qmail-inject with the 50K 
> addresses listed in one giant Bcc: line. 

Funny, I wouldn't have reached that conclusion myself :).

> i then tried to send the message like so:
> 
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject < the_message
> 
> which results in:
> 
> qmail-inject: fatal: failed to parse this line: 
> Bcc: .
> 
> i'm guessing that the line is just too long for qmail-inject.  i checked the 
> manpage for qmail-inject and the archives, but couldn't find anything that 
> would indicate that qmail-inject has a line-length limit. 

Do the same message, injected the same way, but have each address listed on a
separate bcc: line:

From: 
Subject: moving
Date: ...
bcc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
bcc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...

Message...

Very easy to generate with a script, and you won't hit any limits (although I
never have, myself).

Charles
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Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
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Re: qmail-injecting a message with 50K Bcc:

2001-06-25 Thread Daniel Kelley


> Wrong. Ezmlm is what you need. It's a high speed mailing list manager,
> and with the qmail-verh patch you can have individual addressing. You
> can also take input from a text file of one address per line when
> subscribing the list members.

does this hold true for one-time mailings?  i'm sending a very dry email
detailing the ownership change of a corportaion, so i can't forsee many
responses (bounces are, of course, another story).

the reason that i originally tried to do this with qmail-inject instead of
elmlm was that i never saw a need to have list-like behavior (replies,
postings,etc).  that being tha case, is ezmlm still the best option?

thanks-

dan 





Re: qmail-injecting a message with 50K Bcc:

2001-06-25 Thread Mike Jackson

"dan.kelley" wrote:
> 
> hi-
> 
> i'm trying to send a message to a list of approx. 50K email addresses.  i
> figured that the best way to do this was to use qmail-inject with the 50K
> addresses listed in one giant Bcc: line.

Wrong. Ezmlm is what you need. It's a high speed mailing list manager,
and with the qmail-verh patch you can have individual addressing. You
can also take input from a text file of one address per line when
subscribing the list members.

Mike



qmail-injecting a message with 50K Bcc:

2001-06-25 Thread dan . kelley


hi-

i'm trying to send a message to a list of approx. 50K email addresses.  i 
figured that the best way to do this was to use qmail-inject with the 50K 
addresses listed in one giant Bcc: line. 

i then tried to send the message like so:

/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject < the_message

which results in:

qmail-inject: fatal: failed to parse this line: 
Bcc: .

i'm guessing that the line is just too long for qmail-inject.  i checked the 
manpage for qmail-inject and the archives, but couldn't find anything that 
would indicate that qmail-inject has a line-length limit. 

if there is indeed a silent limit on the length of the line, are there any 
suggestions on how to best approximate what the method above would do (1 copy 
of the message in the remote queue; not more than one address listed in the 
Delivered-To: field)?

Thanks-

Dan