[qmailtoaster] Re: DKIM and DomainKeys and the Toaster

2011-02-18 Thread Eric Shubert

Great.

So the only piece that's missing is checking inbound messages. Anyone 
care to look into this? I don't know if Jake has already or not.


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-Eric 'shubes'

On 02/18/2011 08:57 AM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

Eric, Jake's instructions work like a charm and also note: that implementation 
can take care of both DKIM and DK (both of which I am making use of on my 
toaster).

Martin

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 18.02.2011 um 16:34 schrieb Eric Shubert:


qmail-dk (aka DomainKeys), I'm sad to say, has some bugs in the inbound 
(checking) area. Someone (I'm sorry I don't remember the name) spent some time 
on it a couple years ago, and ran out of time fixing the outbound portion.

I recommend removing all DK* variables in the tcp.smtp file, except for DKSIGN. 
I believe DKSIGN works ok (I have it configured), but I wouldn't bet my life on 
it.

I believe DKIM is preferred (a successor to DK). I haven't used it yet, but I 
believe Jake and Amit have implemented DKIM successfully. See
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_Setup_DKIM_with_Qmail_Toaster

I don't know how well DK and DKIM play together, but if I implemented DKIM, I 
would disable DK entirely, either by removing DKSIGN in tcp.smtp, or (better) 
change the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue symlink to point to qmail-queue.orig 
instead of qmail-dk.

It appears to me that this DKIM implementation is for outbound only. I'm not 
aware of any implementation of inbound checking of DK (which works reliably) or 
DKIM for QMT. It'd be nice if someone would come up with a DKIM checking patch 
of some sort.

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-Eric 'shubes'

On 02/17/2011 07:39 PM, Dan McAllister wrote:

Greeting QMT and QTP affectionados...

I endeavored to help PV Anthony resolve his SpamDyke issues a little bit
ago and discovered to my dismay that my DomainKeys system was rejecting
messages for no good reason -- ESPECIALLY if the sending domain had NO
DomainKeys DNS entries!

Needless to say, this is problematic, so I've temporarily suspended
checking for DomainKeys

Has anyone else experienced this recently? (I've used DomainKeys for
quite some time without reason to suspect it was problematic! Was I just
blind to the issues all this time??)

Thanks in advance to any who choose to discuss this...

Dan
IT4SOHO

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: DKIM and DomainKeys and the Toaster

2011-02-18 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
Eric, Jake's instructions work like a charm and also note: that implementation 
can take care of both DKIM and DK (both of which I am making use of on my 
toaster).

Martin

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 18.02.2011 um 16:34 schrieb Eric Shubert :

> qmail-dk (aka DomainKeys), I'm sad to say, has some bugs in the inbound 
> (checking) area. Someone (I'm sorry I don't remember the name) spent some 
> time on it a couple years ago, and ran out of time fixing the outbound 
> portion.
> 
> I recommend removing all DK* variables in the tcp.smtp file, except for 
> DKSIGN. I believe DKSIGN works ok (I have it configured), but I wouldn't bet 
> my life on it.
> 
> I believe DKIM is preferred (a successor to DK). I haven't used it yet, but I 
> believe Jake and Amit have implemented DKIM successfully. See
> http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_Setup_DKIM_with_Qmail_Toaster
> 
> I don't know how well DK and DKIM play together, but if I implemented DKIM, I 
> would disable DK entirely, either by removing DKSIGN in tcp.smtp, or (better) 
> change the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue symlink to point to qmail-queue.orig 
> instead of qmail-dk.
> 
> It appears to me that this DKIM implementation is for outbound only. I'm not 
> aware of any implementation of inbound checking of DK (which works reliably) 
> or DKIM for QMT. It'd be nice if someone would come up with a DKIM checking 
> patch of some sort.
> 
> -- 
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> On 02/17/2011 07:39 PM, Dan McAllister wrote:
>> Greeting QMT and QTP affectionados...
>> 
>> I endeavored to help PV Anthony resolve his SpamDyke issues a little bit
>> ago and discovered to my dismay that my DomainKeys system was rejecting
>> messages for no good reason -- ESPECIALLY if the sending domain had NO
>> DomainKeys DNS entries!
>> 
>> Needless to say, this is problematic, so I've temporarily suspended
>> checking for DomainKeys
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this recently? (I've used DomainKeys for
>> quite some time without reason to suspect it was problematic! Was I just
>> blind to the issues all this time??)
>> 
>> Thanks in advance to any who choose to discuss this...
>> 
>> Dan
>> IT4SOHO
>> 
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>> (www.vickersconsulting.com)
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[qmailtoaster] Re: DKIM and DomainKeys and the Toaster

2011-02-18 Thread Eric Shubert
qmail-dk (aka DomainKeys), I'm sad to say, has some bugs in the inbound 
(checking) area. Someone (I'm sorry I don't remember the name) spent 
some time on it a couple years ago, and ran out of time fixing the 
outbound portion.


I recommend removing all DK* variables in the tcp.smtp file, except for 
DKSIGN. I believe DKSIGN works ok (I have it configured), but I wouldn't 
bet my life on it.


I believe DKIM is preferred (a successor to DK). I haven't used it yet, 
but I believe Jake and Amit have implemented DKIM successfully. See

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_Setup_DKIM_with_Qmail_Toaster

I don't know how well DK and DKIM play together, but if I implemented 
DKIM, I would disable DK entirely, either by removing DKSIGN in 
tcp.smtp, or (better) change the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue symlink to 
point to qmail-queue.orig instead of qmail-dk.


It appears to me that this DKIM implementation is for outbound only. I'm 
not aware of any implementation of inbound checking of DK (which works 
reliably) or DKIM for QMT. It'd be nice if someone would come up with a 
DKIM checking patch of some sort.


--
-Eric 'shubes'

On 02/17/2011 07:39 PM, Dan McAllister wrote:

Greeting QMT and QTP affectionados...

I endeavored to help PV Anthony resolve his SpamDyke issues a little bit
ago and discovered to my dismay that my DomainKeys system was rejecting
messages for no good reason -- ESPECIALLY if the sending domain had NO
DomainKeys DNS entries!

Needless to say, this is problematic, so I've temporarily suspended
checking for DomainKeys

Has anyone else experienced this recently? (I've used DomainKeys for
quite some time without reason to suspect it was problematic! Was I just
blind to the issues all this time??)

Thanks in advance to any who choose to discuss this...

Dan
IT4SOHO

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Re: [qmailtoaster] DKIM and DomainKeys and the Toaster

2011-02-18 Thread Finn Buhelt (kirstineslund)

Hi Dan.

I've been looking through logfiles without stumbling into any issues 
regarding Domainkeys.
I have also been using Domainkeys for some time now without any (known 
to me) issues.


What have You found - let me know and I will check my system.

Regards,

Finn

On 18-02-2011 03:39, Dan McAllister wrote:

Greeting QMT and QTP affectionados...

I endeavored to help PV Anthony resolve his SpamDyke issues a little 
bit ago and discovered to my dismay that my DomainKeys system was 
rejecting messages for no good reason -- ESPECIALLY if the sending 
domain had NO DomainKeys DNS entries!


Needless to say, this is problematic, so I've temporarily suspended 
checking for DomainKeys


Has anyone else experienced this recently? (I've used DomainKeys for 
quite some time without reason to suspect it was problematic! Was I 
just blind to the issues all this time??)


Thanks in advance to any who choose to discuss this...

Dan
IT4SOHO

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