Re: [qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

2012-05-23 Thread Natalio Gatti
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:10 PM, F. Mendez fmende...@terra.com wrote:

   Thanks a lot Natalio.

 I saw some time ago, a patch, for qmail 1.03 to change outbound ip
 depending on the domain asociate to it.

 But what we need is a rotation of a list of Ips each time it needs to send.




I didn't forget about you! I'm a little busy. Tonight I will post some
examples and alternatives to source-nat.


Re: [qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

2012-05-22 Thread Natalio Gatti
Sorry for the lack of answer. Yes, I have some expertise in iptables and
firewalling in general.
One thing you should need is multiple IPs on each server. Then, via
iptables and cron you can change your source ip address every minute or so.
Give me some time and I can post examples.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:07 PM, fmende...@terra.com wrote:


 Hello Natalio,

 do you have a precise example on how to implement this?


 Thanks.


 On lun 21/05/12 4:35 PM , Natalio Gatti nga...@gmail.com sent:

 I can only think in one solution. Via iptables and src-nat. Not so-random,
 but you can change your outbound IP address every minute. And AFAIK, once a
 connection has been established, the nat table mantains the translation.

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM, fmende...@terra.com wrote:

 Hello everyone


 I am the owner of a growing hosting enterprise in my country (Perú), and
 we are facing big rise on our client number.

 As an efect of this we are seeying a rise in mail outbound in our
 servers. Even thoug we put limits to hourly sending, having more than 9k
 clients, all delivering through the same cluster, it lacks of efectiveness
 because each server in cluster uses only one ip for sending tasks. We are
 now seeying blocking issues because of the many clents generated traffic.

 We talked to some people at godaddy and hostgator, as we know they use a
 cluster system that includes on each server a list of IPs that rotates in a
 random fashion, so even with high demand quality service on mail delivery
 from client accounts is always achieved.

 I would like to ask for some guidance and help to this comunity on how
 can we could implement such solution to rotate in a random or other way the
 IPs for sending clients mails.

 I hope you people can see my situation and can help me with this. We used
 to work with exim, but since we changed to QMT it was the best desition we
 ever made on this matters. Now we need to push it to a next level.



 Thanks a lot.







Re: [qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

2012-05-22 Thread F. Mendez
Thanks a lot Natalio.

I saw some time ago, a patch, for qmail 1.03 to change outbound ip depending on 
the domain asociate to it. 

But what we need is a rotation of a list of Ips each time it needs to send.


Regards.

From: Natalio Gatti 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:11 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

Sorry for the lack of answer. Yes, I have some expertise in iptables and 
firewalling in general. 
One thing you should need is multiple IPs on each server. Then, via iptables 
and cron you can change your source ip address every minute or so.
Give me some time and I can post examples.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:07 PM, fmende...@terra.com wrote:


  Hello Natalio,

  do you have a precise example on how to implement this?


  Thanks.


  On lun 21/05/12 4:35 PM , Natalio Gatti nga...@gmail.com sent:

I can only think in one solution. Via iptables and src-nat. Not so-random, 
but you can change your outbound IP address every minute. And AFAIK, once a 
connection has been established, the nat table mantains the translation.


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM, fmende...@terra.com wrote:

  Hello everyone


  I am the owner of a growing hosting enterprise in my country (Perú), and 
we are facing big rise on our client number.

  As an efect of this we are seeying a rise in mail outbound in our 
servers. Even thoug we put limits to hourly sending, having more than 9k 
clients, all delivering through the same cluster, it lacks of efectiveness 
because each server in cluster uses only one ip for sending tasks. We are now 
seeying blocking issues because of the many clents generated traffic.

  We talked to some people at godaddy and hostgator, as we know they use a 
cluster system that includes on each server a list of IPs that rotates in a 
random fashion, so even with high demand quality service on mail delivery from 
client accounts is always achieved.

  I would like to ask for some guidance and help to this comunity on how 
can we could implement such solution to rotate in a random or other way the IPs 
for sending clients mails.

  I hope you people can see my situation and can help me with this. We used 
to work with exim, but since we changed to QMT it was the best desition we ever 
made on this matters. Now we need to push it to a next level.



  Thanks a lot.








[qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

2012-05-21 Thread fmendez73
 Hello everyone
 I am the owner of a growing hosting enterprise in my country (Perú),
and we are facing big rise on our client number.
 As an efect of this we are seeying a rise in mail outbound in our 
servers. Even thoug we put limits to hourly sending, having more than
9k  clients, all delivering through the same cluster, it lacks of 
efectiveness because each server in cluster uses only one ip for
sending  tasks. We are now seeying blocking issues because of the many
clents  generated traffic.
 We talked to some people at godaddy and hostgator, as we know they
use a  cluster system that includes on each server a list of IPs that
rotates  in a random fashion, so even with high demand quality service
on mail  delivery from client accounts is always achieved.
 I would like to ask for some guidance and help to this comunity on
how can we could  implement such solution to rotate in a random or
other way the IPs for  sending clients mails.
 I hope you people can see my situation and can help me with this. We
used to  work with exim, but since we changed to QMT it was the best
desition we  ever made on this matters. Now we need to push it to a
next level.
 Thanks a lot.


Re: [qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

2012-05-21 Thread Natalio Gatti
I can only think in one solution. Via iptables and src-nat. Not so-random,
but you can change your outbound IP address every minute. And AFAIK, once a
connection has been established, the nat table mantains the translation.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM, fmende...@terra.com wrote:

 Hello everyone


 I am the owner of a growing hosting enterprise in my country (Perú), and
 we are facing big rise on our client number.

 As an efect of this we are seeying a rise in mail outbound in our servers.
 Even thoug we put limits to hourly sending, having more than 9k clients,
 all delivering through the same cluster, it lacks of efectiveness because
 each server in cluster uses only one ip for sending tasks. We are now
 seeying blocking issues because of the many clents generated traffic.

 We talked to some people at godaddy and hostgator, as we know they use a
 cluster system that includes on each server a list of IPs that rotates in a
 random fashion, so even with high demand quality service on mail delivery
 from client accounts is always achieved.

 I would like to ask for some guidance and help to this comunity on how can
 we could implement such solution to rotate in a random or other way the IPs
 for sending clients mails.

 I hope you people can see my situation and can help me with this. We used
 to work with exim, but since we changed to QMT it was the best desition we
 ever made on this matters. Now we need to push it to a next level.



 Thanks a lot.





Re: [qmailtoaster] Help request to comunity on tech issue.

2012-05-21 Thread fmendez73
 
 Hello Natalio,
 do you have a precise example on how to implement this?
 Thanks.
 On lun 21/05/12  4:35  PM , Natalio Gatti nga...@gmail.com sent:
 I can only think in one solution. Via iptables and src-nat. Not
so-random, but you can change your outbound IP address every minute.
And AFAIK, once a connection has been established, the nat table
mantains the translation.
 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM,   wrote:
  Hello everyone
 I am the owner of a growing hosting enterprise in my country (Perú),
and we are facing big rise on our client number.
 As an efect of this we are seeying a rise in mail outbound in our 
servers. Even thoug we put limits to hourly sending, having more than
9k  clients, all delivering through the same cluster, it lacks of 
efectiveness because each server in cluster uses only one ip for
sending  tasks. We are now seeying blocking issues because of the many
clents  generated traffic.
 We talked to some people at godaddy and hostgator, as we know they
use a  cluster system that includes on each server a list of IPs that
rotates  in a random fashion, so even with high demand quality service
on mail  delivery from client accounts is always achieved.
 I would like to ask for some guidance and help to this comunity on
how can we could  implement such solution to rotate in a random or
other way the IPs for  sending clients mails.
 I hope you people can see my situation and can help me with this. We
used to  work with exim, but since we changed to QMT it was the best
desition we  ever made on this matters. Now we need to push it to a
next level.
 Thanks a lot.