Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Sandeil Tenebro]

Hi List,

We manage to find a work around on our issue.

These are the steps that we undergo:
- Install the toaster to the new server [destination server]
- Create the important account from source server to destination server
- From source server we just tar those users directory
- To destination server we untar it

This solved our issue but now we are getting differed by yahoo but not on gmail.

Domain key was configured but yahoo seems to differ it. Here is the full 
header. 
I guess I have to open a nw thread for this.


Delivered-To: t...@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.52.66 with SMTP id 
d44cs397493wec; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 
10.142.211.20 with SMTP id j20mr1526362wfg.408.1287224601655; Sat, 16 
Oct 2010 03:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path:  Received: 
from erato.booom.com.ph (ns2.booom.com.ph [203.177.60.42]) by 
mx.google.com with ESMTP id l40si30124712wfa.106.2010.10.16.03.23.19; 
Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 
sctene...@booom.com.ph designates 203.177.60.42 as permitted sender) 
client-ip=203.177.60.42; DomainKey-Status: good Authentication-Results: 
mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sctene...@booom.com.ph 
designates 
203.177.60.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=sctene...@booom.com.ph; 
domainkeys=pass header.from=sctene...@booom.com.ph Received: (qmail 8545 
invoked 
by uid 89); 16 Oct 2010 10:23:18 - Comment: DomainKeys? See 
http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; 
c=nofws;   s=private; d=booom.com.ph;   
b=Mxx90ZN7M0M724/9fXcMQ6iWjJ2rNGpvKVcE9QLLp2lJnVPbGRwug4SaWBg/0iOv; Received: 
from unknown (HELO booom.com.ph) (127.0.0.1)   by erato.booom.com.ph with SMTP; 
16 Oct 2010 10:23:18 - Received: from 124.6.155.51 (proxying for 
192.168.0.5) (SquirrelMail authenticated user sctene...@booom.com.ph)   
  
by booom.com.ph with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:23:18 +0800 Message-ID: 
 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 
18:23:18 +0800 Subject: test From: sctene...@booom.com.ph To: t...@gmail.com 
User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-1.3.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: 
text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 
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[qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Eric Shubert]

Good thinking. If there's no delay using another client (eg TBird) with 
migrated users (have you tested such?), then you may have found the 
culprit. :) Let us know.


On 10/15/2010 02:38 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:

Hi Eric,

I was thinking since you said that there are connections with database, I now
remembered that squirrelmail from source instance uses mysql database for its
address book. I think the database and squirrelmail is not configured on the
destination machine.

Will check it and restore the mysql and re-configure squirrelmail's address
book. Hope this solves the issue.


Sandeil




- Original Message 
From: Eric Shubert
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:35:23 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending
went slow

I hope that IP is just a typo here. Should be:
nameserver 127.0.0.1
;) (I expect you have it right)

Have you tested submitting with other clients?

You might also try using port 587 to see if that behaves any
differently. Port 587 does not do any rbl checking, and does require
authentication. You can change squirrelmail's configuration as such:
$smtpPort = 587;

The fact that it's fast for new users and slow for migrated users would
seem to indicate that there is a problem with the migrated accounts,
causing vpopmail to be slow with authentication. I think I'd use
phpmyadmin to look for any differences between new and migrated users in
the database.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Sandeil Tenebro]

Hi Eric,

I was thinking since you said that there are connections with database, I now 
remembered that squirrelmail from source instance uses mysql database for its 
address book. I think the database and squirrelmail is not configured on the 
destination machine.

Will check it and restore the mysql and re-configure squirrelmail's address 
book. Hope this solves the issue.

 
Sandeil 




- Original Message 
From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:35:23 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending 
went slow

I hope that IP is just a typo here. Should be:
nameserver 127.0.0.1
;) (I expect you have it right)

Have you tested submitting with other clients?

You might also try using port 587 to see if that behaves any 
differently. Port 587 does not do any rbl checking, and does require 
authentication. You can change squirrelmail's configuration as such:
$smtpPort = 587;

The fact that it's fast for new users and slow for migrated users would 
seem to indicate that there is a problem with the migrated accounts, 
causing vpopmail to be slow with authentication. I think I'd use 
phpmyadmin to look for any differences between new and migrated users in 
the database.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

On 10/13/2010 09:51 PM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
> Hi Bharath,
>
> resolve.conf is the first place I checked. named.conf is properly configured 
>and caching dns is also installed. DNS service is also up and running. By the 
>way, the said mail server is also a slave dns sever. It will get its 
>configuration from master server which is located on a different physical 
>server 
>with openbsd as os.
>
> The IP value is 127.0.01
>
> Thank you,
> Sandeil
>
> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bharath Chari  wrote:
>
> From: Bharath Chari
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email 
>sending went slow
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Date: Wednesday, 13 October, 2010, 2:53 PM
>
> On Wednesday 13 October 2010 08:01 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
>> I would test with another mail client eg TBird, to see if the slowness is 
>> with 
>>the client or server portion.
> Could it be to do with resolv.conf on the new machine? Are the name servers 
>specified the same on both machines? Just a random thought.
>
> Bharath
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[qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Eric Shubert]

I hope that IP is just a typo here. Should be:
nameserver 127.0.0.1
;) (I expect you have it right)

Have you tested submitting with other clients?

You might also try using port 587 to see if that behaves any 
differently. Port 587 does not do any rbl checking, and does require 
authentication. You can change squirrelmail's configuration as such:

$smtpPort = 587;

The fact that it's fast for new users and slow for migrated users would 
seem to indicate that there is a problem with the migrated accounts, 
causing vpopmail to be slow with authentication. I think I'd use 
phpmyadmin to look for any differences between new and migrated users in 
the database.


--
-Eric 'shubes'

On 10/13/2010 09:51 PM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:

Hi Bharath,

resolve.conf is the first place I checked. named.conf is properly configured 
and caching dns is also installed. DNS service is also up and running. By the 
way, the said mail server is also a slave dns sever. It will get its 
configuration from master server which is located on a different physical 
server with openbsd as os.

The IP value is 127.0.01

Thank you,
Sandeil

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bharath Chari  wrote:

From: Bharath Chari
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email 
sending went slow
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Date: Wednesday, 13 October, 2010, 2:53 PM

On Wednesday 13 October 2010 08:01 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I would test with another mail client eg TBird, to see if the slowness is with 
the client or server portion.

Could it be to do with resolv.conf on the new machine? Are the name servers 
specified the same on both machines? Just a random thought.

Bharath

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Sandeil Tenebro]

Hi Bharath,

resolve.conf is the first place I checked. named.conf is properly configured 
and caching dns is also installed. DNS service is also up and running. By the 
way, the said mail server is also a slave dns sever. It will get its 
configuration from master server which is located on a different physical 
server with openbsd as os.

The IP value is 127.0.01

Thank you,
Sandeil 

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bharath Chari  wrote:

From: Bharath Chari 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email 
sending went slow
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Date: Wednesday, 13 October, 2010, 2:53 PM

On Wednesday 13 October 2010 08:01 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
> I would test with another mail client eg TBird, to see if the slowness is 
> with the client or server portion.
Could it be to do with resolv.conf on the new machine? Are the name servers 
specified the same on both machines? Just a random thought.

Bharath

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Bharath Chari]

On Wednesday 13 October 2010 08:01 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
I would test with another mail client eg TBird, to see if the slowness 
is with the client or server portion.
Could it be to do with resolv.conf on the new machine? Are the name 
servers specified the same on both machines? Just a random thought.


Bharath

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[qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Eric Shubert]

I would test with another mail client eg TBird, to see if the slowness 
is with the client or server portion.

--
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On 10/12/2010 05:40 PM, Joselito Tapangan wrote:

Jake,

   The issue Is "it slow to respond back to the web page as being 'sent' ".

Respectfully Yours,

Joselito E. Tapangan
Network Administrator
Booom!! Interactive, Inc.
2F Tulips Center Bldg.
A.S. Fortuna St.
Mandaue City, Cebu
Philippines, 6014.


On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Eric Shubert mailto:e...@shubes.net>> wrote:

# chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /home/vpopmail

I don't see how that would cause slowness though. Failure perhaps,
but not sluggishness.

At which point is there slowness when sending from SM? Is it slow to
respond back to the web page as being 'sent', or slow to be
delivered to the destination server?

Are there large 'sent' folders involved?

--
-Eric 'shubes'


On 10/12/2010 01:13 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:

Hi Jake,

The slowness is when sending an email. When testing the send/receive
from destination server no issues were seen. It can send/receive
fast
via squirrelmail. But when the source server's backup is
restored then
sending is too slow.

I will also check the ownership and permission on squirrelmail.

Can you please post the proper ownership and permission?

Please advice.

Thank you,
Sandeil

--- On *Tue, 10/12/10, Jake Vickers /mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com>>/* wrote:


From: Jake Vickers mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com>>
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] After backup restoration web
based email
sending went slow
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com

Date: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 6:30 AM

On 10/11/2010 10:31 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
 > Hi Jake,
 >
 > It seems all the restored users are slow. I forget to mention
that the source OS is centos 4 then the destination OS is
centos 5.
Also the toaster's version of the source server is lower as to
compared with the destination server. Maybe this is one of
the cause.

Slow when browsing old mail, or new? To test you would need
to have
an account that has no mail in it, and then check it.
Squirrelmail "slowness" is usually caused by
ownership/permission
issues on the mailstore's files and/or folders.



  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Sandeil Tenebro]

Hi Johannes,

Will check on this.

Thank you

Sandeil

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Johannes Weberhofer  wrote:

From: Johannes Weberhofer 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email 
sending went slow
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Date: Wednesday, 13 October, 2010, 7:26 AM

A long time ago I had an issue where /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger was wrong. 
It should be

prw--w--w-   1 qmails   qmail

Best regards,
Johannes

Am 13.10.2010 02:39, schrieb Sandeil Tenebro:
> The slowness of sending email is also true when using an email client.

-- Johannes Weberhofer
Weberhofer GmbH, Austria, Vienna

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Johannes Weberhofer]

A long time ago I had an issue where /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger was wrong. 
It should be

prw--w--w-   1 qmails   qmail

Best regards,
Johannes

Am 13.10.2010 02:39, schrieb Sandeil Tenebro:

The slowness of sending email is also true when using an email client.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Joselito Tapangan]

Jake,

  The issue Is "it slow to respond back to the web page as being 'sent' ".

Respectfully Yours,

Joselito E. Tapangan
Network Administrator
Booom!! Interactive, Inc.
2F Tulips Center Bldg.
A.S. Fortuna St.
Mandaue City, Cebu
Philippines, 6014.


On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> # chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /home/vpopmail
>
> I don't see how that would cause slowness though. Failure perhaps, but not
> sluggishness.
>
> At which point is there slowness when sending from SM? Is it slow to
> respond back to the web page as being 'sent', or slow to be delivered to the
> destination server?
>
> Are there large 'sent' folders involved?
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
>
> On 10/12/2010 01:13 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
>
>> Hi Jake,
>>
>> The slowness is when sending an email. When testing the send/receive
>> from destination server no issues were seen. It can send/receive fast
>> via squirrelmail. But when the source server's backup is restored then
>> sending is too slow.
>>
>> I will also check the ownership and permission on squirrelmail.
>>
>> Can you please post the proper ownership and permission?
>>
>> Please advice.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Sandeil
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 10/12/10, Jake Vickers //* wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: Jake Vickers 
>>Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] After backup restoration web based email
>>sending went slow
>>To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>>Date: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 6:30 AM
>>
>>On 10/11/2010 10:31 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
>> > Hi Jake,
>> >
>> > It seems all the restored users are slow. I forget to mention
>>that the source OS is centos 4 then the destination OS is centos 5.
>>Also the toaster's version of the source server is lower as to
>>compared with the destination server. Maybe this is one of the cause.
>>
>>Slow when browsing old mail, or new? To test you would need to have
>>an account that has no mail in it, and then check it.
>>Squirrelmail "slowness" is usually caused by ownership/permission
>>issues on the mailstore's files and/or folders.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Sandeil Tenebro]

Hi Eric,

I forgot to mention that php is upgraded to 5.2 before even installing the 
toaster. We used atomic repository for this.

Yes, sending email is slow. I  observed that at the lower left it said waiting 
for  this takes a while. I thought there is an issue with domain 
but when I did an nslookup and dig to other domain the server can easily 
resolve them.

The slowness of sending email is also true when using an email client.

I'm now wondering on what may cause this. I am now thinking in doing the steps 
again but will not upgrade php to a higher version. Then re-test the issue.

For now we will try to change the ownership of vpopmail directory recursively 
as suggested.

We will report back with the results.

Thank you,
Sandeil 

--- On Tue, 10/12/10, Eric Shubert  wrote:

From: Eric Shubert 
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending 
went slow
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Date: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 3:06 PM

# chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /home/vpopmail

I don't see how that would cause slowness though. Failure perhaps, but 
not sluggishness.

At which point is there slowness when sending from SM? Is it slow to 
respond back to the web page as being 'sent', or slow to be delivered to 
the destination server?

Are there large 'sent' folders involved?

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

On 10/12/2010 01:13 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
> Hi Jake,
>
> The slowness is when sending an email. When testing the send/receive
> from destination server no issues were seen. It can send/receive fast
> via squirrelmail. But when the source server's backup is restored then
> sending is too slow.
>
> I will also check the ownership and permission on squirrelmail.
>
> Can you please post the proper ownership and permission?
>
> Please advice.
>
> Thank you,
> Sandeil
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/12/10, Jake Vickers //* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Jake Vickers 
>     Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] After backup restoration web based email
>     sending went slow
>     To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>     Date: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 6:30 AM
>
>     On 10/11/2010 10:31 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
>      > Hi Jake,
>      >
>      > It seems all the restored users are slow. I forget to mention
>     that the source OS is centos 4 then the destination OS is centos 5.
>     Also the toaster's version of the source server is lower as to
>     compared with the destination server. Maybe this is one of the cause.
>
>     Slow when browsing old mail, or new? To test you would need to have
>     an account that has no mail in it, and then check it.
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[qmailtoaster] Re: After backup restoration web based email sending went slow

[Eric Shubert]

# chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /home/vpopmail

I don't see how that would cause slowness though. Failure perhaps, but 
not sluggishness.


At which point is there slowness when sending from SM? Is it slow to 
respond back to the web page as being 'sent', or slow to be delivered to 
the destination server?


Are there large 'sent' folders involved?

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-Eric 'shubes'

On 10/12/2010 01:13 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:

Hi Jake,

The slowness is when sending an email. When testing the send/receive
from destination server no issues were seen. It can send/receive fast
via squirrelmail. But when the source server's backup is restored then
sending is too slow.

I will also check the ownership and permission on squirrelmail.

Can you please post the proper ownership and permission?

Please advice.

Thank you,
Sandeil

--- On *Tue, 10/12/10, Jake Vickers //* wrote:


From: Jake Vickers 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] After backup restoration web based email
sending went slow
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Date: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 6:30 AM

On 10/11/2010 10:31 AM, Sandeil Tenebro wrote:
 > Hi Jake,
 >
 > It seems all the restored users are slow. I forget to mention
that the source OS is centos 4 then the destination OS is centos 5.
Also the toaster's version of the source server is lower as to
compared with the destination server. Maybe this is one of the cause.

Slow when browsing old mail, or new? To test you would need to have
an account that has no mail in it, and then check it.
Squirrelmail "slowness" is usually caused by ownership/permission
issues on the mailstore's files and/or folders.



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