[qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards

2011-12-29 Thread Eric Shubert

On 12/29/2011 08:16 PM, Casey Price wrote:

One of our users has been having difficulty with a couple of forwards
they are trying to create. They simply do not work. I'm wondering if
anyone else has had trouble with forwarding to a domain that has a dash
"-" in the domain name after the at "@" sign? i.e.; verizonw_alerts ==>
vzwm...@some-where.domain.com

All of the other forwards seem to work, just not that this sub-domain
that is hosted elsewhere on a non-QMT platform. Keep in mind this is an
old Solaris box running an older version of vpopmail and qmailadmin,
etc. Are the forwards storage in the SQL DB? If not, where the heck are
they?!?

Thanks!!

--


"simply do not work" isn't very descriptive. :(
Thanks for noting though that this isn't a QMT host.

What are you seeing in the send log that corresponds to the forwards?

Can you send directly to the fwd address from the account that's trying 
to fwd there?


Forwards are stored in the database with QMT. I'm not positive, but I 
don't think this has always been the case. In 'native' qmail, forwards 
are handled by the .qmail file. See "man dot-qmail" and "man forward". 
Older versions of vpopmail may have different ways of handling forwards. 
I would try to check the compile options used to build the version 
you're running. Which is what by the way?


You haven't given us much to go on Casey, but I hope this helps.

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[qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards

2011-12-30 Thread Eric Shubert
Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not work", 
although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena would be 
more helpful.


Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start).
There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something 
or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being 
sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified.


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On 12/29/2011 10:50 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote:

How can we provide more information when we aren't sending the e mails
that are not delivered? We aren't sending our forwards.

On 12/29/2011 09:13 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 12/29/2011 08:16 PM, Casey Price wrote:

One of our users has been having difficulty with a couple of forwards
they are trying to create. They simply do not work. I'm wondering if
anyone else has had trouble with forwarding to a domain that has a dash
"-" in the domain name after the at "@" sign? i.e.; verizonw_alerts ==>
vzwm...@some-where.domain.com

All of the other forwards seem to work, just not that this sub-domain
that is hosted elsewhere on a non-QMT platform. Keep in mind this is an
old Solaris box running an older version of vpopmail and qmailadmin,
etc. Are the forwards storage in the SQL DB? If not, where the heck are
they?!?

Thanks!!

--


"simply do not work" isn't very descriptive. :(
Thanks for noting though that this isn't a QMT host.

What are you seeing in the send log that corresponds to the forwards?

Can you send directly to the fwd address from the account that's
trying to fwd there?

Forwards are stored in the database with QMT. I'm not positive, but I
don't think this has always been the case. In 'native' qmail, forwards
are handled by the .qmail file. See "man dot-qmail" and "man forward".
Older versions of vpopmail may have different ways of handling
forwards. I would try to check the compile options used to build the
version you're running. Which is what by the way?

You haven't given us much to go on Casey, but I hope this helps.







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[qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards

2011-12-30 Thread Eric Shubert

On 12/30/2011 10:37 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:

On 12/30/2011 08:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not
work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena
would be more helpful.

Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start).
There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something
or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being
sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified.


I am not sure we're on the same page. Brief explanation of my situation.


I see now that we're not. I was talking about fwds to external 
addresses. Was that mentioned anywhere? ;)



I create forwards when I use forums or have to "sign up" for something.
It gives me a way of tracking who's selling or sharing my e mail
addresses. ie. fe...@example.com craigsl...@example.com
netf...@example.com faceb...@example.com


I do this as well, although less frequently than I used to.


Now, I always get my e mails from Fedex and was getting them from
Netflix and then not, but Craigslist didn't play nice with my forwards,
and Facebook complains. I know they were sending e mails but I never got
them. My netflix ones stopped, but now miraculously have started coming
in again. Facebook also complains that the e mail address is not valid.
I changed it from one forward to another and they seem to be happy for
the moment.


That's odd. I've never had a problem with this. I have quite a few 
forwards, and never a hitch. I've always used qmailadmin for maintaining 
them. I presume you're using the same? Have you ever messed manually 
with the .qmail file?



I have confirmed that all of these forwards work by sending an e mail to
them from a gmail account.

In my situation I cannot check the sent logs since they reside with
fedex, craigslist, netflix and facebook respectively. I can see where if
you were forwarding from a QMT to a QMT where troubleshooting would be a
breeze.



You should be checking the smtp logs as well as the send logs. The 
receipt of the original email should show in the smtp log, and the 
forward(s) should should show in the send log. Sounds like in your case 
though like the smtp receipt is failing (outside senders would know 
nothing about your internal forwards).


I would guess that your fwd name isn't being found for some odd reason, 
and the smtp log would show a rejection (spamdyke would list it as 
OTHER). What is your catchall setting? Perhaps that has something to do 
with it.


BL, if fwds work from gmail ok, then your problem with Netflix et al is 
probably somewhere else, and not related to forwards.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards

2011-12-29 Thread Maxwell Smart
How can we provide more information when we aren't sending the e mails 
that are not delivered?  We aren't sending our forwards.


On 12/29/2011 09:13 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 12/29/2011 08:16 PM, Casey Price wrote:

One of our users has been having difficulty with a couple of forwards
they are trying to create. They simply do not work. I'm wondering if
anyone else has had trouble with forwarding to a domain that has a dash
"-" in the domain name after the at "@" sign? i.e.; verizonw_alerts ==>
vzwm...@some-where.domain.com

All of the other forwards seem to work, just not that this sub-domain
that is hosted elsewhere on a non-QMT platform. Keep in mind this is an
old Solaris box running an older version of vpopmail and qmailadmin,
etc. Are the forwards storage in the SQL DB? If not, where the heck are
they?!?

Thanks!!

--


"simply do not work" isn't very descriptive. :(
Thanks for noting though that this isn't a QMT host.

What are you seeing in the send log that corresponds to the forwards?

Can you send directly to the fwd address from the account that's 
trying to fwd there?


Forwards are stored in the database with QMT. I'm not positive, but I 
don't think this has always been the case. In 'native' qmail, forwards 
are handled by the .qmail file. See "man dot-qmail" and "man forward". 
Older versions of vpopmail may have different ways of handling 
forwards. I would try to check the compile options used to build the 
version you're running. Which is what by the way?


You haven't given us much to go on Casey, but I hope this helps.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards

2011-12-30 Thread Maxwell Smart

On 12/30/2011 08:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not 
work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena 
would be more helpful.


Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start).
There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something 
or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being 
sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified.



I am not sure we're on the same page.  Brief explanation of my situation.

I create forwards when I use forums or have to "sign up" for something.  
It gives me a way of tracking who's selling or sharing my e mail 
addresses.  ie. fe...@example.com  craigsl...@example.com 
netf...@example.com faceb...@example.com


Now, I always get my e mails from Fedex and was getting them from 
Netflix and then not, but Craigslist didn't play nice with my forwards, 
and Facebook complains.  I know they were sending e mails but I never 
got them.  My netflix ones stopped, but now miraculously have started 
coming in again.  Facebook also complains that the e mail address is not 
valid.  I changed it from one forward to another and they seem to be 
happy for the moment.


I have confirmed that all of these forwards work by sending an e mail to 
them from a gmail account.


In my situation I cannot check the sent logs since they reside with 
fedex, craigslist, netflix and facebook respectively.  I can see where 
if you were forwarding from a QMT to a QMT where troubleshooting would 
be a breeze.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards

2011-12-30 Thread Cecil Yother, Jr.



On 12/30/2011 10:36 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 12/30/2011 10:37 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:

On 12/30/2011 08:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not
work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena
would be more helpful.

Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start).
There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something
or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being
sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified.


I am not sure we're on the same page. Brief explanation of my situation.


I see now that we're not. I was talking about fwds to external 
addresses. Was that mentioned anywhere? ;)



Reading comprehension FTW.

I create forwards when I use forums or have to "sign up" for something.
It gives me a way of tracking who's selling or sharing my e mail
addresses. ie. fe...@example.com craigsl...@example.com
netf...@example.com faceb...@example.com


I do this as well, although less frequently than I used to.

The other reason and why I still do it is to terminate communication if 
needed.

Now, I always get my e mails from Fedex and was getting them from
Netflix and then not, but Craigslist didn't play nice with my forwards,
and Facebook complains. I know they were sending e mails but I never got
them. My netflix ones stopped, but now miraculously have started coming
in again. Facebook also complains that the e mail address is not valid.
I changed it from one forward to another and they seem to be happy for
the moment.


That's odd. I've never had a problem with this. I have quite a few 
forwards, and never a hitch. I've always used qmailadmin for 
maintaining them. I presume you're using the same? Have you ever 
messed manually with the .qmail file?



Yes

I have confirmed that all of these forwards work by sending an e mail to
them from a gmail account.

In my situation I cannot check the sent logs since they reside with
fedex, craigslist, netflix and facebook respectively. I can see where if
you were forwarding from a QMT to a QMT where troubleshooting would be a
breeze.



You should be checking the smtp logs as well as the send logs. The 
receipt of the original email should show in the smtp log, and the 
forward(s) should should show in the send log. Sounds like in your 
case though like the smtp receipt is failing (outside senders would 
know nothing about your internal forwards).
They would know nothing about internal forwards, but should know about 
rejections.  I was assuming it's on the senders end since I can send to 
them via gmail, but that may be a faulty assumption.


I would guess that your fwd name isn't being found for some odd 
reason, and the smtp log would show a rejection (spamdyke would list 
it as OTHER). What is your catchall setting? Perhaps that has 
something to do with it.



I'll check the logs and see if there are any clues.
BL, if fwds work from gmail ok, then your problem with Netflix et al 
is probably somewhere else, and not related to forwards.





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