Re: [qmailtoaster] dropping failed addresses

2008-02-11 Thread Dan McAllister

If you're using QMT, then you have the qmailadmin web interface:
- Login as an admin user (like postmaster), then open the Email 
Accounts link
  At the top of the window you'll see your current setting (IMHO, it 
should show: *CatchAll: Deleted*)
  Along the bottom of the page, you'll see links for setting catchall 
to deleted/bounced/account:

Deleted means invalid addresses are deleted
Bounced means you report back to the sender that you couldn't 
deliver the mail because there was no user (mailbox) by that name
Account will ask you for the name of an account where you'll store 
all that crap
(Aside: I had a user that was a REAL pain in my backside that I once 
assigned as the catchall account -- just being mean on my part!)


You can also do this on the command line (naturally). The control file 
is actually located in

 */home/vpopmail/domains/YOURDOMAIN/.qmail-default*
The toaster-default is that the entry looks like:
 *| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox  *(note: those 
are two single-quote characters, not a single double-quote character)

Sinply change the bounce-no-mailbox to delete so the line looks like
 *| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete*

BTW: This is /the/ interface description of how QMail uses the vpopmail 
package to control mail delivery!


I hope this helps. someone!

Dan


Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
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Sergio Minini {NETKEY} wrote:

Dan,
really nice your insight.
 
I would like to know a little bit more about how to implement dropping 
in QM, and how can I check if my box is dropping or bouncing.
 
Thanks.
 
Sergio


-Original Message-
*From:* Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:02 PM
*To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
*Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Can I use QMT as a Spam Killer


So, regardless of the behavior of the end-user MTA, any
back-splash would be directed to the Internet, not back to the
filter-MTA (our QMail or sendmail server). Ironically the
rationale for DROPPING vs. BOUNCING mail addressed to non-existent
mailboxes is because of SPAM issues... SPAM producers long-ago
figured out how to address harvest from mail servers that bounce
erroneous addresses. Messages that DON'T bounce from said poorly
configured servers are then SOLD as confirmed, valid user
addresses to other spammers -- thus helping you, the poor novice
mail administrator, get the word out that you are ill-equipped to
prevent SPAM, and thus increasing the amount of SPAM your
soon-to-be-pitied end-users receive exponentially!

 




RE: [qmailtoaster] dropping failed addresses

2008-02-11 Thread Sergio Minini {NETKEY}
Thanks Dan,
It was there, only that this one box is a non-QMT installation and the
qmailadmin is in Spanish and poorly translated, so I wasn't sure what Borrar la
cuenta principal receptora  at the botton was and Todos los mensajes de
cuentas no definidas seran borrados at the top meant.
(I speak Spanish BTW, but that link means delete main account so I was
reluctant to touch it before you told me)

Best regards- Sergio
 
-Original Message-
From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:03 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] dropping failed addresses


If you're using QMT, then you have the qmailadmin web interface:
 - Login as an admin user (like postmaster), then open the Email Accounts link
   At the top of the window you'll see your current setting (IMHO, it should
show: CatchAll: Deleted)
   Along the bottom of the page, you'll see links for setting catchall to
deleted/bounced/account:
 Deleted means invalid addresses are deleted
 Bounced means you report back to the sender that you couldn't deliver the
mail because there was no user (mailbox) by that name
 Account will ask you for the name of an account where you'll store all that
crap 
(Aside: I had a user that was a REAL pain in my backside that I once assigned as
the catchall account -- just being mean on my part!)

You can also do this on the command line (naturally). The control file is
actually located in 
  /home/vpopmail/domains/YOURDOMAIN/.qmail-default
The toaster-default is that the entry looks like:
  | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox  (note: those are two
single-quote characters, not a single double-quote character)
Sinply change the bounce-no-mailbox to delete so the line looks like
  | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete

BTW: This is the interface description of how QMail uses the vpopmail package to
control mail delivery!

I hope this helps. someone!

Dan



Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only

When did you do your last backup?

Ask me about unattended offsite backup solutions...
to protect your business, not just your data!


Sergio Minini {NETKEY} wrote: 
Dan,
really nice your insight.

I would like to know a little bit more about how to implement dropping in QM,
and how can I check if my box is dropping or bouncing.

Thanks.

Sergio
-Original Message-
From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:02 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Can I use QMT as a Spam Killer



So, regardless of the behavior of the end-user MTA, any back-splash would be
directed to the Internet, not back to the filter-MTA (our QMail or sendmail
server). Ironically the rationale for DROPPING vs. BOUNCING mail addressed to
non-existent mailboxes is because of SPAM issues... SPAM producers long-ago
figured out how to address harvest from mail servers that bounce erroneous
addresses. Messages that DON'T bounce from said poorly configured servers are
then SOLD as confirmed, valid user addresses to other spammers -- thus helping
you, the poor novice mail administrator, get the word out that you are
ill-equipped to prevent SPAM, and thus increasing the amount of SPAM your
soon-to-be-pitied end-users receive exponentially!


 


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[qmailtoaster] dropping failed addresses

2008-02-11 Thread Sergio Minini {NETKEY}
Dan,
really nice your insight.
 
I would like to know a little bit more about how to implement dropping in QM,
and how can I check if my box is dropping or bouncing.
 
Thanks.
 
Sergio

-Original Message-
From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:02 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Can I use QMT as a Spam Killer



So, regardless of the behavior of the end-user MTA, any back-splash would be
directed to the Internet, not back to the filter-MTA (our QMail or sendmail
server). Ironically the rationale for DROPPING vs. BOUNCING mail addressed to
non-existent mailboxes is because of SPAM issues... SPAM producers long-ago
figured out how to address harvest from mail servers that bounce erroneous
addresses. Messages that DON'T bounce from said poorly configured servers are
then SOLD as confirmed, valid user addresses to other spammers -- thus helping
you, the poor novice mail administrator, get the word out that you are
ill-equipped to prevent SPAM, and thus increasing the amount of SPAM your
soon-to-be-pitied end-users receive exponentially!