[qmailtoaster] spam filter restrictions results impossible sending emails

2008-03-10 Thread Istvan Köpe

Hi,

Every Monday I'm sending a newsletter to a couple of thousands of mail 
addresses. During the weekend I modified in simcontrol spam_hits from 12 
to 5. As a result Outlook was unable to send the newsletter. Unable 
means no error message, just sending/processing forever. In that list of 
email addresses are many invalid addresses too, which generate 256 
errors, which are time-out-s, but correct me if I'm wrong and I also 
seen simscan: connect error 2 errors. But even if there are error, it 
worked before and I don't see the connection between the spam_hits 
parameter. In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as, 
something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case 
of Windows.
So there are two possibilities: or Qmailtoaster was not configured 
well(less probable, because is to simple to configure), or the spam_hits 
parameter affected qmailtoaster's functionality.


What do you think?

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam filter restrictions results impossible sending emails

2008-03-10 Thread Istvan Köpe

Natalio Gatti wrote:

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Istvan Köpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi,

 Every Monday I'm sending a newsletter to a couple of thousands of mail
 addresses. During the weekend I modified in simcontrol spam_hits from 12
 to 5. As a result Outlook was unable to send the newsletter. Unable
 means no error message, just sending/processing forever. In that list of
 email addresses are many invalid addresses too, which generate 256
 errors, which are time-out-s, but correct me if I'm wrong and I also
 seen simscan: connect error 2 errors. But even if there are error, it
 worked before and I don't see the connection between the spam_hits
 parameter. In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
 something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
 of Windows.
 So there are two possibilities: or Qmailtoaster was not configured
 well(less probable, because is to simple to configure), or the spam_hits
 parameter affected qmailtoaster's functionality.

 What do you think?

 Istvan



check your spamd log to see if spamassassin is flagging your mail as
spam: /var/log/qmail/spamd/current

Natalio.
  
Yes, this is good to mention, I've disabled the spam checking for local 
addresses in the tcp.smtp file 
192.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1

That means it should not check it for spam, nor else, just send it. Right?


Re: [qmailtoaster] spam filter restrictions results impossible sending emails

2008-03-10 Thread Natalio Gatti
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Istvan Köpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

  Every Monday I'm sending a newsletter to a couple of thousands of mail
  addresses. During the weekend I modified in simcontrol spam_hits from 12
  to 5. As a result Outlook was unable to send the newsletter. Unable
  means no error message, just sending/processing forever. In that list of
  email addresses are many invalid addresses too, which generate 256
  errors, which are time-out-s, but correct me if I'm wrong and I also
  seen simscan: connect error 2 errors. But even if there are error, it
  worked before and I don't see the connection between the spam_hits
  parameter. In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
  something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
  of Windows.
  So there are two possibilities: or Qmailtoaster was not configured
  well(less probable, because is to simple to configure), or the spam_hits
  parameter affected qmailtoaster's functionality.

  What do you think?

  Istvan

check your spamd log to see if spamassassin is flagging your mail as
spam: /var/log/qmail/spamd/current

Natalio.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam filter restrictions results impossible sending emails

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Shubert
Istvan Köpe wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Every Monday I'm sending a newsletter to a couple of thousands of mail
 addresses. During the weekend I modified in simcontrol spam_hits from 12
 to 5. As a result Outlook was unable to send the newsletter. Unable
 means no error message, just sending/processing forever. In that list of
 email addresses are many invalid addresses too, which generate 256
 errors, which are time-out-s, but correct me if I'm wrong and I also
 seen simscan: connect error 2 errors. But even if there are error, it
 worked before and I don't see the connection between the spam_hits
 parameter. In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
 something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
 of Windows.
 So there are two possibilities: or Qmailtoaster was not configured
 well(less probable, because is to simple to configure), or the spam_hits
 parameter affected qmailtoaster's functionality.
 
 What do you think?
 
 Istvan
 

There are more than 2 possibilities (lucky for you). ;)

There is a known intermittent problem with sending which seems to happen
more often with Outlook than with other clients. In this case, the message
is received by the toaster and subsequently sent, but the submission session
terminates abnormally, leaving Outlook to think that the message wasn't
sent, so Outlook keeps sending it until you remove it from Outlook's
outgoing folder.

The fact that you changed spam_hits is simply coincidental to your error.
There is no other relationship between them.

 In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
 something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
 of Windows.

I like that. Applies to Outlook the same as Windows.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam filter restrictions results impossible sending emails

2008-03-10 Thread Istvan Köpe

Eric Shubert wrote:

Istvan Köpe wrote:
  

Hi,

Every Monday I'm sending a newsletter to a couple of thousands of mail
addresses. During the weekend I modified in simcontrol spam_hits from 12
to 5. As a result Outlook was unable to send the newsletter. Unable
means no error message, just sending/processing forever. In that list of
email addresses are many invalid addresses too, which generate 256
errors, which are time-out-s, but correct me if I'm wrong and I also
seen simscan: connect error 2 errors. But even if there are error, it
worked before and I don't see the connection between the spam_hits
parameter. In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
of Windows.
So there are two possibilities: or Qmailtoaster was not configured
well(less probable, because is to simple to configure), or the spam_hits
parameter affected qmailtoaster's functionality.

What do you think?

Istvan




There are more than 2 possibilities (lucky for you). ;)

There is a known intermittent problem with sending which seems to happen
more often with Outlook than with other clients. In this case, the message
is received by the toaster and subsequently sent, but the submission session
terminates abnormally, leaving Outlook to think that the message wasn't
sent, so Outlook keeps sending it until you remove it from Outlook's
outgoing folder.

The fact that you changed spam_hits is simply coincidental to your error.
There is no other relationship between them.

  
Is good to hear the is nothing wrong with the server. I created a 
mailing list and I hope like I'll get rid of this problem. But Is there 
a workaround for this problem? The same thing happens with Outlook 2007?

In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
of Windows.



I like that. Applies to Outlook the same as Windows.

  




Re: [qmailtoaster] spam filter restrictions results impossible sending emails

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Shubert
Istvan Köpe wrote:
 Eric Shubert wrote:
 Istvan Köpe wrote:
   
 Hi,

 Every Monday I'm sending a newsletter to a couple of thousands of mail
 addresses. During the weekend I modified in simcontrol spam_hits from 12
 to 5. As a result Outlook was unable to send the newsletter. Unable
 means no error message, just sending/processing forever. In that list of
 email addresses are many invalid addresses too, which generate 256
 errors, which are time-out-s, but correct me if I'm wrong and I also
 seen simscan: connect error 2 errors. But even if there are error, it
 worked before and I don't see the connection between the spam_hits
 parameter. In the Linux world I know that there is no such thing as,
 something works today, but it doesn't work after a while, like in case
 of Windows.
 So there are two possibilities: or Qmailtoaster was not configured
 well(less probable, because is to simple to configure), or the spam_hits
 parameter affected qmailtoaster's functionality.

 What do you think?

 Istvan

 

 There are more than 2 possibilities (lucky for you). ;)

 There is a known intermittent problem with sending which seems to happen
 more often with Outlook than with other clients. In this case, the message
 is received by the toaster and subsequently sent, but the submission session
 terminates abnormally, leaving Outlook to think that the message wasn't
 sent, so Outlook keeps sending it until you remove it from Outlook's
 outgoing folder.

 The fact that you changed spam_hits is simply coincidental to your error.
 There is no other relationship between them.

   
 Is good to hear the is nothing wrong with the server. I created a
 mailing list and I hope like I'll get rid of this problem. But Is there
 a workaround for this problem? The same thing happens with Outlook 2007?

No workaround that I'm aware of. It's intermittent, and no one has
pinpointed the cause ttbomk. I don't know about Outlook'07, but it might be
worth a try.

What version(s) of the toaster are you running? If your clamav-toaster isn't
the latest, I'd begin with upgrading the toaster.

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-Eric 'shubes'

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